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#funny #sad
Most viral you say? Well then, send me whatever you want to say to a stranger, that won’t judge you, that you can’t admit/say/express to the people you want to. I know y’all feel like a human, but do you feel like a person?
AgolfHiller
SomeThingsNeverDie
Stop it my dad literally said this the other day and I was like NO. NO WE ALREADY DID THIS LIKE 10 YEAES AGO.
WolvesofIsnguard
Did we not put this issue to rest a long time ago in a galaxy very far from here?
MarkerMage
No, it just got switched from saying that it causes violence to saying that it causes sexism.
BopTheDrass
Recall people used to be burned at the stake. Humans were always violent and shitty. But blame everything except the easy gun access right?
ThailandExpress
IdUpvoteYouButYoureAt69
I'd upvote you but you're at 69
cpnbeeb
News: Hey kids! Feeling lonely and nobody understands you? Go shoot some people and we'll give you all the attention you could ever want!
GodsFoot
If it works it works
Mrblump
Politicians and the media have been beating this horse since doom hit the scene.
Zerberus
We had a brief episode of "Video game make you sexist and aggressive" between 2012 and 2018.
TeeWrecksQt
Don't blame the hammer for hitting your thumb. You did that on your own.
JCentauri
OccidentalDevilman
Sock Juice Warriors took the reins after the lefties gave up some years back. The same SJWs did a 180 as soon as Trump said something.
Bluemoxin
That Trump hat is backwards lmao
Steffn
humaneffigy
GTA did 911
KeepingRepostStatsBusy
Does he know you can screw an adult actress in GTA? I bet not
Noob3rts
I read an article from that era, and hoo boy. It said, and I quote, "rape-fueled video games are causing violence." RAPE. WHAT?!
Genini
Rape-fueled. You know. Hook up your sega genesis to her hoo ha and just get to raping so you can power the game.
CardboardStomach
All those kids blowing into cartridges were practicing for when they become sex-crazed rape monsters. I knew it
Showmeyourotters
There used to be this show on Disney called Life With Derek or something and the girl in it got really upset one time bc of a copyright
Showmeyourotters
neutral Tomb Raider and how sexist it was. Then she actually played it and almost immediately changed her tune iirc.
ragekritz
that's not out of date, I saw a sherif claim you get points for raping in games. What games use points? and what games have rape systems?
ouroborus777
Which games are rape-fueled? It's for research.
Beshuu
RapeLay
RobertNAdams
I mean, there are quite a few unsavory Japanese games...
ouroborus777
Well, of course I meant non-Japanese stuff. Talk about shooting fish in a barrel.
keyblader1985
Those who don't learn from history..
Nightelfbane
Lol these fucktards "memed a president into office" and then he turns on them in his first term. Congratulations, you played yourselves.
MrHaveANiceDay
Ha ha he's ruined everything, including the things we love, take that liberals!"
LogicalAbsurdities
So video games are responsible for shootings but not the fucking guns? Glad we're clear on that.
Trelkeen
Has anyone considered it might be the evil fuck shooting who is responsible? Novel concept I know but it's just crazy enough to make sense.
LogicalAbsurdities
"Guns don't kill people, people kill people. And monkeys do to (if they've got a gun)."
Trelkeen
I would say guns kill people because they're instruments of killing but since i can count i know the person is to blame not the tool.
SkinnerTBD
I'll get my kit.
ensensu
SpellingEternity
Remember Whitechapel murders? Pacman's fault.
MaverickGoose2020
Wait someone murdered the band? That sucks. They were good back in the day
thisistherevolt
Going on tour with Black Dahlia in a couple months actually.
SpellingEternity
As if. The band was doing the murdering. Street cred, ya kno.
annoyedOnion
A long time ago the same thing was said about comic books
dangerousDoc
Still is sjws are saying violence against minority characters in comics leads to the same in reality
Hitsuzen9
Are you referring to Seduction of the innocent?
annoyedOnion
No but I feel like I would be if I was smarter
ObliqueRay
This is nonsense of course, it's jazz that causes violence, I read it in some 1920s newspapers
powders
OH THOSE JAZZ MUSICIAN CURMUDGEONS AND THEIR WILY SCHEMES! I'LL SHOW THEM WHO'S TOP DOG BY GUM!
rensheefteentelefoon9000
LordFriteuse
"The education of John Wilkes Booth had fitted him to act the part of murderer of our President." http://www.merrycoz.org/yc/BADLIT.xhtml
coachmcguirk94
An entire world built on war and conquering. It's da video games xd
SudoNimm
So funny because Canada has all the games we do...and has no major shootings lol
Actrox
Or the most of the world.
batmanbumantics
Aaaand every other country in the world, too.
Cthulhukitten
The World too.
aluminumfalconjumpercables
Moose, bear, geese, grouse, yeti...
smittywjmj
One in 2017, two in 2016, three in 2014 based off just a quick Google search.
Bambing
Cool, now try with Australia and New Zealand , same games but no shootings
smittywjmj
Mm, try again. One in 2017, four in 2014, two in 2011. Last mass shooting in NZ was 1997, but shootings in 2001 and 2014 that get close.
Bambing
Whoa, you’ve shocked me, that totally comes close to over one per day in America
Ninjinister
That's like... less than just most months in the States though.
JamieSmyth
and the UK. Oh, you know what we don't have? Guns. But people keep saying "the problem isn't guns" so...Americans need to drink more tea!
tepmoc
Or Russia we also dont have guns but we got huge domestic violence. So my guess its not just as simple guns is all US problems
JamieSmyth
I bet you don't have spouses getting shot? Guess what? America does...but yeah, it's not the guns...
tepmoc
No, but we got pretty good at knifing ppl, we have huge percent deaths to cold weapons in domestic violance.
JamieSmyth
Yes...but not mass murder levels. You can't mow down hundreds of people with a knife
AudaciousCheeseburger
But they have...
DandyShitlord
Weed.
AudaciousCheeseburger
And I haven't heard of a mass shooting in Colorado since 2011, meanwhile there have been two at least in Florida since 2015...hmm.
AudaciousCheeseburger
Free healthcare
phantasmaphilia
but do they have.....
phantasmaphilia
tons of shooty shooty bang bangs? thot naught shitpants. USA! /s
SudoNimm
Lol was gonna downvote this. Well done.
AudaciousCheeseburger
Thanks man.
amillionants
The best syrup
AudaciousCheeseburger
That's true...hmm. You may have found the root of the problem. America needs better syrup.
GinOClock
I thought Vermont had some good maple syrup.
AudaciousCheeseburger
Yeah but that's basically South Canada.
BigOlShamalamaDingDong
And Australia, New Zealand, UK and a good portion of Europe.
bipnip
There are a ton of banned video games in Australia and New Zealand. Or they were forced to be edited because of violence.
Killertortilla
There were 2 games banned in australia. And then we unbanned them.
bipnip
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games_in_Australia ??
Shadestars
That's a small handful of games, most of them suck so hard they're not on anyones radar anyway. 1/2
Killertortilla
I mean... I wouldn't call most of those games. And some of those are legitimate bans. Like omega labyrinth. that's more than I thought thoug
silentjay01
The "Date of Birth" needs to go back to at least the release date of Mortal Kombat.
Talonotw
and it didn't die, it just got wordfiltered to 'misogyny'
Dracongield
Doom, Postal, Mortal Kombat, heck, I think there was ranting over Contra when I was a kid.
ObliqueRay
Yeah, I remember this crap from Doom and that was in '93
XanCrews
I'm going to agree kinda... I'd put it least as far back as the ratings system brought forth by the ESRB (in USA) because of Mortal Kombat.
Cthulhukitten
I'm sure someone killed someone over Pong wawy back when.
silentjay01
I know Mario Kart made my friends and I violent towards each other.
ChimeraOfEbony
First game to open the violence debate was the arcade game Death Race from 1976 and never truly stopped. The studies came in late 90's.
OneColdGorilla
Shoot, I remember a news story asking if Zelda II was too violent.
PhilTheKhajiit
Not just video games. D&D was said to have cause mental illness in the early 80s. They just don't like things they don't understand.
capughe
Who thinks it died though? And in 2002?
imgurgrsxhhy
I think Jack Thompson campaigned against every Gta that's been released, at least up until 2008
DrScienceface
He did, right up until the Florida Supreme Court called his filings as "repetitive, frivolous and insulting." Then he was disbarred
HOLAKOOO
Evidence thinks it died. Japan plays the same games, yet has lowest homicide rates on the planet.
capughe
Not that I believe it, I just thought people still whined about "the problem" every now and then.
ChimeraOfEbony
There are still some trying to prove it once in a while, though - Chris Ferguson has some wonderful notes on why it's bollocks :)
butdontcallmeshirley
Badeen Badeen Bedeenbadeen WOO! Badeen Badeen Badeenbadeen WOO! Badeen Badeen Badeenbadeen WOO! MORTAL KOMBAT!
samwyze
Sounds more like Twilight Zone by 2 UNLIMITED
WhiteCollarOfficeJobs
I think more accurately the controversy really began in 1994.
Snooj
Ha, no. One of the first arcade games was a racing game where you had to run over goblins but they looked like people and moms got angry.
LiamNeesonOfficial
Yes! I remember that!!! Hahah! Maybe, humans are just garbage?
overlordchris666
You talking "Carmageddon"?
Snooj
No, I can't remember the name but it's an early stand-up cabinet game. Pre-dates Pac Man.
KjTheLightning
and i'm never gonna believe people in the usa stopped thinking games mad epeople violent in 2002, that's gotta be at least another 10+ years
Zaayl
id at least go to 2008, when Jack Thompson got disbarred.
KjTheLightning
i'd assume at least up to gta 5 release.
Zaayl
Was there any real media attention from it? Or just more "Moms against __" coalitions?
KjTheLightning
that would imply my country's tvmedia is run moms... to be fair, it wouldn't be that far off from reality. but anway, it's the last time
overlordchris666
August 1992.
coolwaterNJ
It was a hot summer. Things were about to get hotter.
amillionants
Toasty*
fistermatic5000
A B A C A B B
43rdpresident
Please tell me that's a special code to see more blood and guts.
fistermatic5000
Yep
Marni42
down, forward, back, back, high kick. Lou Kang’s Dragon Fatality in Mortal Kombat 2
pterodactylptime
April 26, 1992. There was a riot on the street, tell me where were you?
Choreopithecus
Fun fact. It was actually April 29th, but he accidentally sang 26th and it was such a good take that they just kept it.
pterodactylptime
That's right. I remember being pulled out of school on that day for security reasons because there were concerns of safety for us kids.
tschick
I studied the blade
DoctorEnsignCrusher
You were sitting home watching your TV, while I was participating in some anarchy.
farny99
to be fair i was 3 and try as i might i couldnt open the front door
Zardo03
First spot we hit it was my liquor store. I finally got all that alcohol I can't afford.
2shy4you
With red lights flashin' time to retire, and then we turned that liquor store into a structure fire
ahhhhtomzilla
Next stop we hit, it was the music shop, It only took one brick to make that window drop Finally we got our own P.A.
shimmernshine
1982 was the first time politician criticizing a console game (Custer's Revenge). Exidy's 'Chiller' (1986) was pulled from Chuck E. Cheese.
ThatGuyPerseus
For Devil's Advocate: Custer's Revenge was a shitty game about rape that puzzles me about how it exists, don't know about chiller thought.
shimmernshine
Custer's Revenge was made by a porn company and sold for $49.95 at launch in adult bookstores. It was novelty.
shimmernshine
Chiller was one game in a series of really innovative and good light gun games from Exidy. Cheyenne and Crossbow were made around then.
shimmernshine
I can understand what they were going for with Chiller, but by 1986 that aesthetic was not really justifiable.
LiamNeesonOfficial
Yeah, I heard about that. Before that it was violent comic books.
shimmernshine
The first one is still reprehensible today for many reasons, and I'd personally be wary of anyone that enjoyed Chiller. It was kinda gross.
GadenKerensky
Why?
shimmernshine
Every level in Chiller is a graphic and gory point-and-click torture chamber, ripping people limb from limb and crushing heads earns bonus.
shimmernshine
Custer's Revenge is quite literally a rape game, with a lot of racism thrown in to boot.
Tinkrr
Wasn't 2002-2018 "Video games cause violence against women" or something like that?
bayardthebloodhound
I thought it was before that. No really. I thought it started in like 98.
RancidRance
Nah it was video games are sexist because batman has a cape.
Tinkrr
He's worse than Hitler for having that cape!
MordorGate
No capes!
MarkerMage
I feel that the "No capes!" rule can have an exception for when the cape is a multipurpose tool and not merely for looks.
Beshuu
I don't get it.
Tinkrr
Anita Sarkeesian had a whole series that received millions in funding about how games cause sexism. She also spoke at the UN about it.
Tinkrr
Then Gamer Gate was a thing, then Law and Order made a video game episode that was so bad even the side that should like it didn't.
Cuntard
anita sarkeesian made a ridiculous youtube video claiming that video games are sexist because he camera focuses on female characters’ 1/
Cuntard
butts, but not male characters, and she used a short clip of batman wearing a cape to “support” her claim that his but wasn’t visible
Beshuu
Thank you.
Nelmathel
Yep and now a generation has grown the cycle repeats.
ImgonnapartylikeitsCOVID1999
Nope that was early 90s. I believe the game was called night raid for Sega CD. It's the reason we have ESRB today.
Genini
Night Trap. Super tame by todays standards. I mean really tame like Disney channel has similar levels of rique.
ImgonnapartylikeitsCOVID1999
But if you watch the congressional hearings about it, you'd think they were talking about a Serbian film.
Aimanfire
I went and checked r/the_donald. I think they're trying to ignore this whole debacle...
GadenKerensky
That sub has a sad history.
eadanke
Did they ignore the "ignoring due process for gun control" thing as well?
vampirehedgehog
https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/811gsu/rthe_donald_is_imploding_following_trumps_progun/
eadanke
I love it.
No train bot, not now.
vampirehedgehog
They had a meltdown where people wound up getting banned for quoting Trump after that one.
ForgotMyOtherAcct
They've always banned people for quoting Trump whenever it reflects poorly on him.
MyBigMouth
Does anyone know what computer game Vlad the Impaler was playing that made him so violent?
Kaurakexi
Crazy Bus
Headstereo
Chess?
MrMemethief
Takeshi’s Challenge
GoodBadGibus
https://youtu.be/Q0y9EYunhhY
Onekindofpisslord
I can't really blame him after hearing that.
TheVakarian
Crusader Kings II and he keeps losing to the Ottomans.
thisistherevolt
Seljuks my friend. Or the Aztecs.
Satanslittlechariotsoffailedpotential
He could have just played the last start date and got fucked by a really lucky Ottoman AI.
Cheomesh
Dark Souls.Getting kicked off a fuckin' bridge by ENEMIES YOU CANNOT SEE 1000 times will definitely make you want to put a man on a pole.
PackedCatMeowingPowerDensity
Pretty sure his internet was laggy. 15th century romanian providers were not reliable. The carrier pigeons were often late.
Loxachi
You know an even harder game by the same devs? Armored core for answer. That shits ridiculous still managed to Ace it on hard though.
Cheomesh
Only vaguely aware of that game; thought it was multiplayer?
Loxachi
No it's a single player oriented game although it did have Multiplayer. Maybe you're thinking of Armored core 5?
SociopathicOtter
Castlevania?
JDBM
Lords of Shadow 2, maybe?
Beshuu
MVP here.
YeahFairiesWearBootsNala2011
CPolofVancouver
Barbie's Horse Adventures
Squirrelfurkeyboard
No idea, but I'm pretty sure he had to use a joystick.
dunkyclone
Katamari Damacy
WussupVoltage
Dark Souls. He just got so frustrated that he impaled a village.
Thesimpleman
I don't think video games cause violence, but this is a bad argument. The premise is that video games caause violence, not that...
Thesimpleman
That video games are the only thing that cause violence.
0x779
Funny thing is, Vlad still is considered one of the greatest leaders around here and is dearly missed.
AgolfHiller
Sims 2?
yplon2
He was playing taxi-mania
BadimirPupin
Dark Souls for sure
CanadianMadCow
One of the bionicle games on gamecube.
Lichelf
Splatoon.
theBEARDEDarchaeologist
That was impaling simulator 2
eadanke
Kick-Man.
Genini
I do know that he loved marshmallows and campfires.
AntaNce
LiBearington
So a 80 something year old man who doesn't play video games said something about video games, tell me more.
EhIsForCanehdians
He dare not, it'd surely turn him evil.
LiBearington
Eeeeeviilllll
bayardthebloodhound
I wish I had a Merman gif right now.
FenyxKnight
Merry Christmas
bayardthebloodhound
YES! Thank you.
bayardthebloodhound
Listen here you young whipper snapper back in my day we when to the picture show and they had no where near this violence. Just people tied1
bayardthebloodhound
Up in front of trains. But they were saved but the handsome gentlemen. 2/2
MatrimBloodyCauthon
He lets his son play violent videogames. There was a news article "violent videogames okay for Trump's son, maybe not for yours"
humaneffigy
Actually he's a 42,000 year old reptoid.
Manzoman666
Did this really happen? Sauce please
cheeseguy3412
Reality, unfortunately. Meanwhile, An Alabama congressman opposes arming teachers, because "Most of them are women." 1/2
cheeseguy3412
I feel like i'm in the fucking twilight zone at this point. 2/2
Munchman347
Well, it's never about 'facts', it's about preaching to the Choir. Keep the fan base distracted and you can do anything to them...
IAlwaysUpvoteBirdies
It seems like everyone who is against violent video games doesn't actually play them.
Rasdwatrium
he doesn't even have a computer in his oval office. Probably too PC for him.
nashpotato
I remember seeing a video of the news saying the whole goal in dark souls is to invade another players world and repeatedly brutally murder>
nashpotato
Them. Which is not at all how that game is played.
LiBearington
That's how I played it.. dark wraiths for life.
ThatTransformersDude
The whole point of Dark Souls is to be brutally murdered by Dark Souls
WantDownvotes
StatmanIbrahimovic
GRex2595
Wow, what a reasonable argument that accurately and thoroughly addresses the both sides of the argument without any bias whatsoever. +1
MnemonicMonkeys
I would still say that mental illness and bullying can easily be causes for it. It's just that the proliferation of guns in the US that 1/2
Killertortilla
Absolutely. The problem is they aren't being addressed. And when they aren't they have incredibly easy access to firearms 2 massive problems
MnemonicMonkeys
Enables mass shootings to be as bad. I'd rather we treat the causes myself, but that's unfortunately not gonna happen anytime soon. 2/2
alsoAzrael
People act like there are no studies, but there ARE, and mental illness is not really that well correlated with mass shootings.
GRex2595
Do those studies account for the fact that America's mental health facilities are just god awful?
alsoAzrael
First of all it's a worldwide trend of no significant correlation, second they look at diagnoses and not hospitalizations.
Saajix
This image is inaccurate. The earth is a loop! /s
pterodactylptime
That's only part of the story. Now, make a graphic that shows places with guns being outlawed but frequent knife, truck and club attacks.
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monochrony
except when we do mass clubbing it doesn't involve murder.
TheFlyingSheep
Oh shit I forgot about the knife attack that was done hundreds of meters away from the 30th floor. Man that commando perk is overpowered
pterodactylptime
I can tell from the comments that I was misunderstood. I meant that the discussion shouldn't just be about guns when talking about games. 1/
pterodactylptime
It comes down to human nature and that people will find a weapon and an excuse to kill, whether or not games or guns are available. 2/2
elephantocetomachia
No. We understand, but guns are a tool for killing many humans quickly. No guns means these people will have to use less effective tools.
Honorius
If you outlaw guns, only the outlaws will have guns.
overlordchris666
Much like in the Wild West, those damn Natives were slaughtering the Settlers with guns before they were able to get some and fight back.
Honorius
That has nothing to do with our current society, where gun smuggling is a very real thing. Disarming the innocent won’t stop the criminals.
waterbucketsandsparetowels
And compare the casualty rates of each of those seeing that trucks knives and clubs kill less?
pterodactylptime
Probably true for knives and clubs, but it'd be interesting to see vehicular manslaughter stats.
overlordchris666
But we have stats on vehicle death every year in the US. It's brought up year after year during the "Stop drunk driving" campaign...
waterbucketsandsparetowels
The interesting part is if you want to narrow it down to malicious or accidental.
lfcnpk123
Don’t you have to register your truck and also take a test to drive one? Legally of course.
PocketRocketDoge
You also register firearms dude. Do some research on the matter. Firearms save more lives per year than not.
Wolvenlight
True (assuming all self defensive gun use would result in death without), but knife/club attacks kill less per incident then gun attacks.
Kurothct
Source?
Mentok
So you're saying if you can't end all violence you shouldn't try at all? I enjoy shooting but that's an awful argument.
LiterallyYourMom
I'd like to see someone try to stab 500 people from a hotel window.
Goomba92
*grabs a big ass stick and some duct tape*
YeahFairiesWearBootsNala2011
Bow and arrow?
LiterallyYourMom
Maybe if you had an entire Persian king's army staying in the hotel.
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Onekindofpisslord
Or a veteran in the art of throwing knives
FirePrinceZuzu
Arrows don't stab, they pierce.
spiker301
It's almost like how people who know nothing about guns are trying to ban them at the moment.
LiBearington
What no way
jukelikeyouknow
I've been told that they are weapons designed for killing things and that they make murder sprees much easier. Was any of that incorrect?
heroesblood
Video games don't fire metal slugs into people and kill them, but good try
valen00
ban them or keep them out of the hands of the mentally ill?
theBEARDEDarchaeologist
There's a pretty good system for that too
valen00
sure, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_show_loophole
theBEARDEDarchaeologist
That's cool but go try to buy a gun without a permit to carry or purchase or without a background check and see how far you get
Jepalaudsadsin
Gun control does not equal banning guns, but okay.
LiBearington
We already have gun control, then.
Camelspotting
No shit.
fe1od1or
Nowhere near enough, though.
minepagan
Yes, but obviously it's not working.
LiBearington
So we are going to ignore all the warnings they had after he legally purchases his gun then showed signs of instability?
ThatTransformersDude
Thoughts and prayers isn't exactly a plan though
DontTemptMeWithAGoodTime
It’s a step in that direction... in a few years we’ll take another step
minepagan
https://enviropaul.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/slippery_slope.png
CardboardStomach
Riding that slippery slope all the way to the bottom are we?
Jepalaudsadsin
Haha no, it literally won't. I guess you're okay with children being gunned down in the classroom. Thoughts and prayers for them I guess.
DontTemptMeWithAGoodTime
aw whatever you fuckin tool
BrumpoTungus
Banning any guns based on cosmetics doesn't help with gun violence
Jepalaudsadsin
I agree, but who is trying to do that?
BrumpoTungus
A huge amount of current gun laws target cosmetic or auxiliary functions. See California