DumpingSh1tandBeingKind2
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flarflarf
competitive sports are very young ages are so weird. Just let them play and do whatever.
gablestout
Little League Baseball and Softball have these rules for 12U and below.
1) No player may sit out 2 innings until all players have sat out 1 inning and no player may sit out 2 innings in a row.
2) Each player must play at least 1 inning in an infield position
3) All players must be given the opportunity to pitch, unless the player explicitly states they do not want to pitch
As an umpire, we KNOW which coaches will be the ones to violate this. And I have had managers sanctioned.
rossonerinho
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AccountCreatedToUpvoteDogs
I still remember when in little league the coach sent in a pinch hitter so we could win some stupid plastic troohy.
Snowdogsbitch
Gary Lineker on children's football biggest problem THE PARENTS https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49831238
Saigon333
My ultimate frisbee coach in high school was super proud of their record. The Varsity and Junior Varsity squads were the same sets of players (minus 1 or 2) on both squads, while the other 50% of the team remained benched for the entire season. Then he got mad when we didn't take it seriously.
Higure
In little league basketball here in Norway, the actual rules are, by the end of the third quarter, the player who has played the most on their team and the player who has played the least can be at most a single quarter away from one another.
Myrealnameisunusual
I've coached kids soccer from u11 - u18. From grades b - d.
I had one kid who was so unfit he couldn't jog. One kid wouldn't ever pass. I had one kid with half a lung who was a legend. I even had a kid who thought he was a dinosaur.
As a coach, I want all of my kids to feel valued for whatever they can bring to the game. I want them all to enjoy the sport for what it is, not for what their parents think. For some of them, a coach is the only adult in their life who isn't an abusive wreck.
BlahBlahTurtle
I was turned into the team linesman whilst coachs son was striker. Any other position then that and he would spit it. Like stood to the side and watched a ball gently run into the goal when he was put in goals. Yet cause I was less "good" I was asked to just wave flags all game. That was nearly 30 years ago and it still stings.
ImHereToGetDownvotes
My mom was a soccer coach who made sure that EVERY kid on her team got to play every game. Sure, some kids played less than others, but everyone got at least a half games worth of play time. She was also the coach with the best winning record in the entire leagues history. She took the time to learn the strengths and weaknesses of all the kids and would substitute as needed taking it all into account. It's amazing what a coach that cares and understands can do.
kickahippie
My highschool soccer coach thought it be a great team building experience to travel half the state away to play a friendly with another school. Took a coach bus at least but it was a 6 hr drive way, stayed overnight at some crummy hotel, and despite saying we'd all get to play 4 of us didn't touch the field b/c we were down 2-1 at half time and just needed to equalize... 🫤 wasted my whole fucking weekend.
kickahippie
He also played the movie Rocky on the bus for us, as inspiration I guess, and we got to the field right at the end of the movie. Which, spoiler alert, Rocky fucking losses. Like WTF, at least show us Rocky 3 where he whoops the russian. It was a shit show, through and through
furtherclearthoughts
AYSO makes sure everyone plays. We had great fun.
gablestout
So does Little League Baseball and Softball (during the regular season...All-Stars is a completely different beast)
homicidalkoala
When I was in little league, all the good players were on the same team. My coach never taught me how to hit the ball, I only ever heard "keep your eye on the potential concussion sphere" and got benched for pretty much every game. The one time i hit the ball and made it to first, the next batter got the third out. I think it's where my dislike of sports came from.
SaintCody
My brother that was on a school basketball team as a kid. The coach never let him play and he cried on the bench one time during a game. He said "i want to play", and the coach looked at him and said "i want to win".
highisophotography
This depends on the league you’re playing in. If you’re in a recreation league playing for fun 100% equal play OR as much as a kid may want in that “halfway point,” however, if it’s a competitive league you tried out for, I disagree. These are coveted and can lead to Olympic opportunities or college teams. If YOU (meaning the kid) chooses a competitive league, you do not determine your skill/worth to the team.
LazyUsername99
Is this not a thing elsewhere? All the leagues my son has been involved in (granted, he's 10) have had requirements regarding equal playtime or minimal playtime (the best kids could stay in the whole game, but no one could be made to ride bench for an extended period.)
QueefChegwin
Ha. This happened to me as a kid. The coach refused to let me play but his two sons played every damn week. 35 years later and I still hate that piece of shit. Fuck you, Barry.
p7zjnq9gei9000
I coached one of our local kids leagues for my kids team K-7th grade. The league required everyone to play. Sometimes we lost, two seasons we lost every game, but the kids learned to play better, how to persevere, and how to be a team. We had a core group all the way through and a few superstars the last season. Everyone played in every game. The star players got rotated into positions they didn’t know well. It’s kids playing team sports, not a pro league.
OoWah
I used to coach under 9 soccer and the number of times I would have to intervene on a child's behalf because a parent was giving them crap for not "playing right" was entirely too high. The kids don't give a shit because they just want to participate and feel included. They're perfectly happy to kick a ball and tell you how far they made it go because it's the farthest they've ever kicked it before. And that's all they want. At that age, the point of the game isn't to win.
theGORTtakethaway
You sound like an amazing coach! My son has been playing for 4 yrs, and our most recent coach almost made us all want to quit soccer forever. Such a raging dickhead. Plus, the parents of one of his teammates were constantly criticizing their own son and everyone else as if they should be pro level or something. They even mocked their own son when he got injured. We asked to not be on a team with that coach or that player this time. Some people take that shit way too seriously!
DumpingSh1tandBeingKind2
You're good people @OoWah... Those kids were lucky to have you as a coach!
CoinedWatcher
My parents made me play soccer and baseball because it's what all the kids my age were doing. I didn't want to be there and was perfectly happy to sit on the bench... but that was probably not that common
Pelican3
In the u.s. it’s all about winning. Fuck your kids feelings. It’s not about staying fit and having fun it’s about winning to the point where coaches tell kids to injure the opposition.
ThailandExpress
Change rules so every kid has to play like little league baseball in US rules minimum of six defensive outs&bat at least once per player
L4dead2
My 5 year old plays soccer and every team subs every kid. It’s important they ask get play time because they all got so much better by the end of the season
breezybriv
I’ll never forget going to U16 Fastpitch Nationals and reading the signals wrong (we had just changed them for the tournament). So I stole second base when I wasn’t supposed to and got thrown out. My coach came and grabbed me by my helmet cage and shook it so hard that my neck sprained. I don’t recall anything else from that tournament other than it was hot. So fuck you coach, they’re goddamned kids.
Pelican3
Water polo as well. Coaches make the kids switch hats so a kid with too many fouls can stay in the game.
drowninginthesouth
I know everyone is always searching for the latest outrage moments. But, can't they just sit on the ground? Having been a player and then a coach if there were no benches we sat on the ground. I don't recall any team forcibly made to stand an entire game (except for the poor coach and refs, will no one think of them!). Most of the really engaged players stood because they wanted to.
FirePrinceZuzu
erikleorga
Reminds me of a story of a football player who played out his contract, attended every training game, but was largely a bench warmer. Still walked away with some absurd amount of money for playing out his contract. (I don't remember his team or name.)
brazzy42
You may be thinking of Carlos Kaiser, who had a 13 year long career as a football player without playing a single match. Apparently he was very sociable and made lots of friends among players and journalists who would then recommend him. But he played only for South American clubs, so I doubt his earnings were huge.
JoeyJoeJosephsonFromJosephsTown
There are lots of players like that. They have lots of skill and are there if needed for a game but most importantly provide a quality player to practice with/against during training. Minimum pay for most professional league sports (MLB, UEFA, NFL, NBA, etc) is far more than most normal jobs with the lowest NFL practice squad player getting $11.5K per week. MLS which doesn't have nearly the revenue pays 65.5K/yr minimmum. English Premier leauge lowest salary is $13K/wk
SomebodyalreadytookMyPants
Went to watch a young relative coach a grade school team or something and the ref got mad at them for subbing so much (they wanted to make sure everyone got to play)
iamspaghetto
Why play in a league if you aren't trying to win? There are so many less competitive alternatives. I understand if this was a game in the park but if you're playing with coaches and referees you should play to win not for everyone to participate.
OverthinkingThis
Ok to be fair it depend so how often it actually was. I worked as a ref for a bit and you have to keep track of the numbers on both sides because coaches can and *will* try to pack in too many kids on their team (aka cheat). I've literally seen it attempted enough times I would also be very annoyed if someone kept subbing in constantly. But, again, if it wasn't like, every few minutes, then the ref just needs to chill
hnngh
Stupiddddddd zebra.
SkamanSam
My dad coached me n my bro's baseball and basketball teams in middle school. He was constantly yelled at for letting everyone get their turns. He was not afraid to yell back. This was in bumfuck nowhere,NC. There was nothing to do so all the parents pushed their kids into sports and some would pinish their kids for not performing well enough. I am so glad I got away and my son isn't exposed to tbat.
ALLCAPSROCK
its how my dad coached my soccer team. Everyone played, every game, unless you were injured of course. My dad would encourage all of us and I never felt like I disappointed him if we lost. We just ran extra laps next practice until we puked...
LOL, I'm joking, we were six years old...
BananaForScaIe
Did this once for my kids (coach just didn't show up). And, ref was super understanding I didn't know all the things. Sometimes he'd even point at me for a call.
ShutupRef
Ehhhh sometimes this is done in order to waste time. The best way to make sure everyone plays is to sub a group spaced out. That way it's not wasting as much time.
spookymormonhelldream
Depending on the age, i can understand both sides. I coached HS Water Polo and had kids who were good enough to get scholarships. And other kids who were there for fun. I would generally keep the good ones in a lot more so their stats got them more recognition, which meant less subbing in games.
myamazeballz
That gentleman should be requested to ingest a satchel of Richards
AzraelEternity
"Alright Ref. You can go tell those kids they don't get to play because you don't like me making substitutions and making sure all of them get a chance to play."
Burke616
Man, apart from giving everyone a chance to play, does that ref know how much it sucks to get a career-ending injury in the fucking pee-wee league? They're kids, they haven't built up the strength and stamina to go heavy yet, hell yes you rotate 'em out and give 'em a break.
DumpingSh1tandBeingKind2
That ref needs to take his 1950s attitude and shove it! They're kids Ffs, let them play and enjoy themselves!
BarryTheCyborg
As a former ref, if they were substituting 2 every couple minutes instead of everyone at once, I'd be annoyed as well. Especially with little kids, substitutions can cause confusion and I'd often have to recount to make sure there was the right number of kids on the field.
SomebodyalreadytookMyPants
yeah i think this was the refs thinking and makes total sense.
n0n53n53
not to mention some coaches use it to slow down the game so their players can be more ready or run the clock down. When I coached I had refs tell opposing coaches to wait for a subs because they were making 1 sub every time to ball went out to break up the game.
SterlingArcherSecretAgent
Did you remember to tell the ref why it was done? They need to learn as well :-D
SomebodyalreadytookMyPants
wasn't me, i thought everyone handled it fine. I don't think the ref objected to everyone getting to play just the regularity to the subbing.
SterlingArcherSecretAgent
This is why I quit Ice Hockey back in the day. Always on the bench. The *one* time I got to play and scored, they spelled my name wrong...
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
I spent the entire finals that we had gotten to on the bench cause the coach had this weird obsession with winning... I was like 8.
HashMaster9k
Yeah, that's kind of why I quit street hockey little league in the 90's— never got played, and when I did, no one would pass to me, even when in prime position. 5 games of that and I bailed. Parents luckily understood and I found a better suited sport little league.
Fadetoblack021
I got cut from rep for punching the coach's son in Bantam.
SterlingArcherSecretAgent
Sounds fair.
conklin5
To be fair, SterlingArcherSecretAgent is tough to fit on a scorecard.
LordofSadFace
Thats why we call him Duchess
pretendthisisagoodusername
Eh, he sounds more like a Bob kinda guy to me
SterlingArcherSecretAgent
I'm off duty, Randy is more appropriate ;-)
SterlingArcherSecretAgent
True story lol!
varyael
My youth soccer team was one of the only ones that complied with a league rule that all players must have 5 minutes on the field. So many other teams had like 5 kids that did literally nothing the entire game. My coach would poach them, play them, and we'd usually place 1-3. Winning is for professionals who get paid to do it. Playing is for exercise and fun. Literally the word, PLAY, they aren't entertainers or performers
Moranasaurusrex
Exactly
420supercoolusername69
I agree for public leagues or under-10 (that’s a random age I just made up) because at a point learning to compete and win is part of life, too.
DorianBlack
In a capitalist sense sure. But we could be having societies that focus on working together for our mutual benefit and not against each other đź«
varyael
Exactly, cooperation is a better skill to learn than competitiveness in almost every instance. Us v them is not a great concept to teach children but most sports function that way after about elementary school. Feels very combative and aggressive
420supercoolusername69
Cooperating? Like a team does? Healthy competition promotes sportsmanship, cooperation, and respect for opponents. That unhealthy “win at all costs” bs should for sure be tempered, especially with kids sports in the US.
420supercoolusername69
Working together? Like a… team? Sportsmanship is a thing. It’s not inherently evil or “capitalist” to enjoy competition. And teaching kids that competition doesn’t have to be cutthroat seems like kind of a good way to promote working together, even if we’re “not on the same side.”
IDontSpeakInternet
Living to win is a capitalist virtue.