May 21, 2017 2:36 PM
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Sifi7
I mean exept n joe chill is a rea person in the comics, and the mobius chair knew he killed the waynes. Any way it is somewhat interesting
Thatwhichhasnolife
Actually, there is a comic where he goes back and stops joe, but that wrecks everything and he has to go back and watch it all again
candar
Eh. Not pulling the trigger is still uncertainty.
unclestankstank
Grabs some clothes off a clothesline in the middle of a metropolitan area. Clothes that also happen to have a gun in them. Reaching.
edisaskelly
This makes no sense we all know Joe Chill was the guy who killed his parents plus there are three jokers and he would never ever use a gun.
asa1967
Batman would 100% not kill his parents and destroy the universe. Such a dumb idea.
CentaurForDiseaseControl
I hate predestination paradoxes
WouldYouKindlydotdotdotquestionmark
Fuck time travel.
tacticalblack
The comic "The Flashpoint" is an alternative universe where Bruce dies that night and Thomas becomes Batman and Martha the Joker.
thorandmjollnir
Now THAT'S a killing joke.
rhombusrightangle
Yea I'll take a little predestination with my Cheerios this moring
Getty13
The only problem is the age difference
azzurrivincitore13
That creates far too many paradoxes and is ungrounded in logic that I'm getting a headache from the sheer stupidity of it.
Harik
So as far as superhero writing goes, it's pretty good then.
circlebreaker
2edgy4me
pizzapartyhard
We all know that Bruce Wayne's parents were gunned down in a senseless act of violence; what this comment presupposes is maybe they weren't?
Batmannequin
I understood that reference
yoseph26
MuricanCommie
BallsToYouSirAndOrMadam
So Tim Burton was right?
mentalcaries
mclmaddux
@op shit man... copyright this idea stat! That's pretty fucking brilliant!
As I said in the title, it's not mine tho
Orochizilla
I hate time travel paradoxes, but holy fuck
DonaldFuck
I would say it's a repost, but it's to good to spoil with such a remark.
hardytardigrade
Thank you for not spoiling it. I would say you actually did spoil it, because you did comment, but your comment is too kind for that.
Procrastinatorsapprentice
I like
prodroom1
I would 100% believe this
Sebastian987654
But then again, you're an imbecile
EmphaticOlive
And that’s the end of the sentence
trippintherift
My only problem with this is the required age difference between joker and batman. Otherwise it's perfect
bc3789
Doesn't the fact that there had to be a killer in the first place to begin the loop of Batman killing his own parents count as a problem?
There had to be something to start Batman before the loop.
strugglesnuggler
There's pretty much an anti-age plot device on every street corner. Plus he could've pulled a Captain Jack and became a fixed point in time.
kindofacat
is that explained in the new movie or something?
JamesMoriartyThePsychopath
They mean Jack Harkness, from the Dr. Who Universe, I believe.
Burke616
That is definitely who they mean, yes.
Thingsorstuff
ManicDepressiveMuffin
Canon accepted.
PICKLERICKKKKKKK
Accepted so fuxking hard
digivirus
Ya, I'm fucking good with this. Also lends in part as an explanation for the Joker's obsession with Batman, i.e. his former life.
Ex-fucking-actly! Obsessed over it because it is his own, yet never specifically sure as to why.
DumpoldRant
Another wrinkle, what if the Joker is just preparing Batman for the trials to come by testing the limits of his psyche for years.
SavagePatchKids
He'd also never fear for his own life, because he knows he'd never kill anyone
ijustwatchedthehumancentipedeandomygoshitiswierdwhatthefuck
it also describes why he can never kill batman, the multiverse wouldn't let him. Hence the ridiculous luck batman has in these scenarios.
RoseTheSpecialEdTeacher
I've seen this before on here. I could have sworn it was an official comic. Weird.
Might have been 1 a elseworld story, 2 a fan made one, 3 you imagined it. Probably the second one.
I know I read this premise before, I think I might have imagined the comic part though. Mind is a wonderful thing.
If you remember the comic, do share. Ya know, if it exists.
I never saved it. I just know I read this premise before. Might have imagined the comic part though.
Bugger
lDanielHolm
In that situation, Wayne wouldn't kill his parents. He would just stay in the past -- _as the Batman_. Hell, he'd prevent a lot of shit.
TroutFingers
But if his parents were never killed he never would have become Batman. Time Paradox if the parents survive
octavarious
But by killing his parents he created the paradox he was living in.
But if he didn't kill his parents, how would he have gone back to that point in time to not kill his parents?
If he is capable of causing his parents' death, he must necessarily exist outside the continuum of that particular world. Bringing him back
in time causes that. He is essentially created in the moment of his appearance in the timeline, with skills and memories.
Mdhe
He'd be pretty old by the time of the final confrontation, in that case. But he could always train someone to take his place.
buurd86
Maybe even train young Bruce.
So Bruce' teaches Bruce everything he knows, Bruce grows up to get thrown back in time and teach Bruce^2 everything he knows...
CaptCanada
nope same issue as flashpoint, though barry hated it as he could of saved her, he couldnt do anything as it would destroy the world
Different issue altogether. Barry directly interfered. In the above situation, Wayne isn't the one interfering; he simply doesn't act.
Similar result
No, it isn't. In the situation as set up in the original post, Wayne is an indispensible actor. He has always BEEN Joe Chill, wheras Barry
broke into the timeline and altered it as an outside influence.
Sifi7
I mean exept n joe chill is a rea person in the comics, and the mobius chair knew he killed the waynes. Any way it is somewhat interesting
Thatwhichhasnolife
Actually, there is a comic where he goes back and stops joe, but that wrecks everything and he has to go back and watch it all again
candar
Eh. Not pulling the trigger is still uncertainty.
unclestankstank
Grabs some clothes off a clothesline in the middle of a metropolitan area. Clothes that also happen to have a gun in them. Reaching.
edisaskelly
This makes no sense we all know Joe Chill was the guy who killed his parents plus there are three jokers and he would never ever use a gun.
asa1967
Batman would 100% not kill his parents and destroy the universe. Such a dumb idea.
CentaurForDiseaseControl
I hate predestination paradoxes
WouldYouKindlydotdotdotquestionmark
Fuck time travel.
tacticalblack
The comic "The Flashpoint" is an alternative universe where Bruce dies that night and Thomas becomes Batman and Martha the Joker.
thorandmjollnir
Now THAT'S a killing joke.
rhombusrightangle
Yea I'll take a little predestination with my Cheerios this moring
Getty13
The only problem is the age difference
azzurrivincitore13
That creates far too many paradoxes and is ungrounded in logic that I'm getting a headache from the sheer stupidity of it.
Harik
So as far as superhero writing goes, it's pretty good then.
circlebreaker
2edgy4me
pizzapartyhard
We all know that Bruce Wayne's parents were gunned down in a senseless act of violence; what this comment presupposes is maybe they weren't?
Batmannequin
I understood that reference
yoseph26
MuricanCommie
BallsToYouSirAndOrMadam
So Tim Burton was right?
mentalcaries
mclmaddux
@op shit man... copyright this idea stat! That's pretty fucking brilliant!
MyLastAccountGotBannedSoIStartedDrawingPixelarts
As I said in the title, it's not mine tho
Orochizilla
I hate time travel paradoxes, but holy fuck
DonaldFuck
I would say it's a repost, but it's to good to spoil with such a remark.
hardytardigrade
Thank you for not spoiling it. I would say you actually did spoil it, because you did comment, but your comment is too kind for that.
Procrastinatorsapprentice
I like
prodroom1
I would 100% believe this
Sebastian987654
But then again, you're an imbecile
EmphaticOlive
And that’s the end of the sentence
trippintherift
My only problem with this is the required age difference between joker and batman. Otherwise it's perfect
bc3789
Doesn't the fact that there had to be a killer in the first place to begin the loop of Batman killing his own parents count as a problem?
bc3789
There had to be something to start Batman before the loop.
strugglesnuggler
There's pretty much an anti-age plot device on every street corner. Plus he could've pulled a Captain Jack and became a fixed point in time.
kindofacat
is that explained in the new movie or something?
JamesMoriartyThePsychopath
They mean Jack Harkness, from the Dr. Who Universe, I believe.
Burke616
That is definitely who they mean, yes.
Thingsorstuff
ManicDepressiveMuffin
Canon accepted.
PICKLERICKKKKKKK
Accepted so fuxking hard
digivirus
Ya, I'm fucking good with this. Also lends in part as an explanation for the Joker's obsession with Batman, i.e. his former life.
ManicDepressiveMuffin
Ex-fucking-actly! Obsessed over it because it is his own, yet never specifically sure as to why.
DumpoldRant
Another wrinkle, what if the Joker is just preparing Batman for the trials to come by testing the limits of his psyche for years.
SavagePatchKids
He'd also never fear for his own life, because he knows he'd never kill anyone
ijustwatchedthehumancentipedeandomygoshitiswierdwhatthefuck
it also describes why he can never kill batman, the multiverse wouldn't let him. Hence the ridiculous luck batman has in these scenarios.
RoseTheSpecialEdTeacher
I've seen this before on here. I could have sworn it was an official comic. Weird.
Sifi7
Might have been 1 a elseworld story, 2 a fan made one, 3 you imagined it. Probably the second one.
RoseTheSpecialEdTeacher
I know I read this premise before, I think I might have imagined the comic part though. Mind is a wonderful thing.
ManicDepressiveMuffin
If you remember the comic, do share. Ya know, if it exists.
RoseTheSpecialEdTeacher
I never saved it. I just know I read this premise before. Might have imagined the comic part though.
ManicDepressiveMuffin
Bugger
lDanielHolm
In that situation, Wayne wouldn't kill his parents. He would just stay in the past -- _as the Batman_. Hell, he'd prevent a lot of shit.
TroutFingers
But if his parents were never killed he never would have become Batman. Time Paradox if the parents survive
octavarious
But by killing his parents he created the paradox he was living in.
TroutFingers
But if he didn't kill his parents, how would he have gone back to that point in time to not kill his parents?
lDanielHolm
If he is capable of causing his parents' death, he must necessarily exist outside the continuum of that particular world. Bringing him back
lDanielHolm
in time causes that. He is essentially created in the moment of his appearance in the timeline, with skills and memories.
Mdhe
He'd be pretty old by the time of the final confrontation, in that case. But he could always train someone to take his place.
buurd86
Maybe even train young Bruce.
Mdhe
So Bruce' teaches Bruce everything he knows, Bruce grows up to get thrown back in time and teach Bruce^2 everything he knows...
CaptCanada
nope same issue as flashpoint, though barry hated it as he could of saved her, he couldnt do anything as it would destroy the world
lDanielHolm
Different issue altogether. Barry directly interfered. In the above situation, Wayne isn't the one interfering; he simply doesn't act.
CaptCanada
Similar result
lDanielHolm
No, it isn't. In the situation as set up in the original post, Wayne is an indispensible actor. He has always BEEN Joe Chill, wheras Barry
lDanielHolm
broke into the timeline and altered it as an outside influence.