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I stopped buying from EA really long ago, IMO this outcry and bashing is long overdue. It's only a thing now because it has affected the SW franchise...
It's very well deserved and this abuse of chopping up games has to stop, I hope people will seriously boycott EA this time, because I'd like to see them change back to a decent company that they used to be long ago...
whatspaulplayingtoday
It's been the same two posts on this site for the last few days. "EA is garbage" -- "We know". Okay, I get it. Please stop.
Banhammer72
I buy EA games still! only second hand though, that way the local store gets the money and EA don't!
GodEmperorOfImgur
There's a reason EA has been voted worst company several times.
myrealnames
...in a galaxy far, far away?
Some1OnceToldMe
It's like the sexual assault cases though...at least it's finally coming out publically?
IamNOTatomato12
the more people know about their bullshit, the less people will buy.
v3rmilion
Congratulations, you're the eight millionth person to say so
umebloom
EA merely crossed the line that no other developer has yet been willing to cross. But they've all been skirting right up to it up until now
pieceofcandy
Missed your shot "that they used to be a long time ago... In a galaxy far far away. .
psycho3d
I stopped buying EA games years ago. Shit, I'm still playing NFL 2K5. Best football game ever!!!
REDS1X
it really was
WhoSaidYouCouldEatTheLastCookie
Don't forget they fucked over Disney here too
ZKrock
It's what they get for fucking over Marvel vs. Capcom.
ANomNomA
Peach!
LowFucntioningSociopath
Nectarine!!
ThatOneArachnidKeeper
It sucks seeing what they've become nowadays. I'm sure some people remember EA Sports "BIG", and their lineup. Some of those games used 1/3
ThatOneArachnidKeeper
to be pretty good. Honestly, I feel like this horrible change in EA came along around the time Online Gaming for consoles became a more 2/3
ThatOneArachnidKeeper
commonplace thing with Xbox Live, and Playstation Network. I've not bought anything from them in years. 3/3
dontfuqtheworldupohwaityoudid
squidnib879
I haven't bought an ea game since 2008, I checked
mandadadada
More or less the same as me. I don't remember buying EA for about a decade and when it started it wasn't nearly as bad
Jewbatuba
The only EA game I will buy anymore is Madden, there's no paywalls or extras that have to be bought, it's still a really solid game
mandadadada
Let's hope they don't screw that one :)
IronicUsername
So, basically, "I was hating EA BEFORE it was cool."
ZKrock
Gonna give your mental gymnastics to get to that line of thinking a 7.8
mandadadada
No, that's NOT the point, is about cutting BS at the roots because it's much harder to deal with later. And that I hope it will work now
TheGentleKaiju
Didn’t preorder after trying to give andromeda the benefit of the doubt. Glad I didn’t.
iusedtodream
EA was never good to players. They release broken games and leave it up to players to fix. Move on to dlc and next project.
DanTheStanMan
I'm amazed the zeitgeist isn't being wiser about this. This is Electronic "No Such Thing as Bad Publicity" Arts, remember?
TheCausticCynic
I haven't bought from EA in forever. I really wanted to buy SWB2, it looked really fun. But with the controversy I think I'll just enjoy 1/2
TheCausticCynic
2/2 the original Battlefront 2 instead. (btw, I hate that I have to call it that now...)
frake
Your beloved Star Wars franchise is now designed by committee to maximize profits for the Disney overlords. Nothing else.
peppercat296
In other news, experts claim that most people make things in exchange for money. More at 11.
frake
And they will take every last dollar from you that they think they can squeeze out of your wallets.
screamingwinemaker
and honestly, I'm becoming numb to all the prod being shoved in my face. Wait for the outcry of "Disney is ruining Star Wars"
NextineX
Now? AHAHAHAHA
Camelspotting
Most people think it's a fun gam.
mandadadada
Good thing tho, idgaf about star wars (especially games)... So I'm literally just grabbing popcorn and watching the internet freak out
frake
I'm not buying a game or watching a movie just because it says Star Wars. It had better be good or I'm not wasting my money.
mandadadada
Exactly!
SharkShanker
Problem is like 2 out of every 3 games are actually really fun and well made
IronicUsername
Yeah but there are so many games out these days that there are plenty of other good options from companies with better business practices.
VictarionsCrispyArm
I agree with you. Besides the loot crates, battle front 2 seems really well made and fun.
Freakyfrek
It’s a fun game to play, I wish there was a better system than loot crates to fund dlc but hey thems the breaks. Fun game though.
mandadadada
Believe me EA does not need a piggy bank to develop a DLC... Most DLCs
TheRealRavnos
How would you know that? Its not like you work for them.
mandadadada
They get yearly loads of money from sports games which is why they buy off companies. And buying companies is pricier than making a DLC
mandadadada
2- already exist when the game is made, they just chop it off & after some polishing they sell it to you like it's new
ThisIsFrigglish
The problem is, EA has the official sports licenses. That's largely unbreakable as a revenue stream.
mandadadada
They did get to a point a couple years back that they only sold FIFA and other sports games. Which is where they barely belong
ThisIsFrigglish
But those generated enough money to buy other studios, gut their properties, shove their reanimated corpses out the door, and fire them all.
mandadadada
2> as FIFA themselves will keep swimming in money although they are corrupt as fuck... Because there's no stopping sports bizzes
mandadadada
Basically, yeah, I don't understand people who buy FIFA games anyways, but yeah that shit generates money like cassinos as does FIFA and >>
MrNemo99
Stop pre ordering games.....
millenniumdragon
Yeah only time I pre order is if I want a collectors edition, like Halo 3 legendary edition, or red alert 3 collector tins(grew up on C&C)
IHateApostrophes
It used to make sense when you could only get physical copies and they'd sell out. But with digital copies, makes no sense at all.
Hoodra
But I want a physical copy.
Chols
Been wondering this myself
mandadadada
Indeed. You have no idea what they will be like before launch
Camelspotting
Only if you're incredibly stupid.
Donkeymong
Well except for the 2 betas and the trials.
nashpotato
Not even that necessarily. Just stop buying games from companys that repeatedly screw gamers until they fix the problem.
Hoodra
Nothing wrong with pre ordering if it's from a company that's only given you positive experiences over the years.
Hoodra
Nintendo and Valve are two big names that I still 100% trust. EA and Ubisoft are two that I don't bother with anymore.
madmanmoe64
theres still no point tho. If a game is digital buy it at / after launch, it's not going to run out like physical games used to.
nashpotato
The only argument for that I would accept is preloading, and thats kind of a minor thing.
Donkeymong
I pre orderd so i could have more time in the beta then just cancelled it, dont get why everyone dosent just do that.
twohearteddoctor
I just told ea i lost my beta code and they gave me one without any propf of purchase
Donkeymong
Similar to what i did for the ea access, i just lied and said that i had a bug they gave me 20 hours without even asking for proof lol
twohearteddoctor
Guess they had too much faith in the microtransactions
Donkeymong
Lol its like a crack dealer giving you a rock for free on your first time. Just tryna get me hooked bastards.
RagleSpragle
Because some people want the game?
sgaduuw
People should BE PAID for beta testing, they should not be paying for access to an unfinished product
Donkeymong
I didn't pay anything it was a free beta and dont be ridiculous how are they going to pay enough people todo proper stress testing?
sgaduuw
Stress testing can easily be automated, especially today, with cloud computing being easily accessible
sgaduuw
They don't need people for stress testing. They do open betas to build hype, by using you
Donkeymong
Its a free chance to try the game before you buy it i dont know what more you want.
Thellluminati
Why? Because that used to be the standard? That iant a fair way to judge. If people are willing to pay why is it the companies fault? Same
Thellluminati
Thing with the microtransaction stuff. If people are willing to pay, the company has every right to charge market value. Its just now that
Thellluminati
the market might start saying that they arent willing to pay, so the company will have to change their practices. Its a free marjet, and
CommanderCaribou
You make a good point here. I really think that the games industry really need to look hard at itself and realize that people will buy and
CommanderCaribou
Support a game company if they deliver see t products with no shady business shit involved. I'm so sick of how this model is in EVERYTHING
CommanderCaribou
I understand cosmetics is one thing but having lootboxes now is becoming just a staple in shady model. I grow weary of being treated
CommanderCaribou
Like im not a customer anymore. I'm just a giant fucking wallet to blow more money on a game that doesn't even support it's own life cycle.
mandadadada
There are a lot of young kids that will be getting that shit for Christmas and since they have no life will spend all their money on it >>
mandadadada
They are a BIG portion of the consumer base and a big part of why they do these shady things in games are kids w poor impulse control
ParanoidWithGoodCause
remember if EA made good games the would have shut themselves down already...
JohnFloorwalker
their games are actually good, they just divide the game up into little pieces you have to buy sepeare.
tdo5gsx
Lol
mandadadada
* sorry I mean CFO* is probably a psychopath of sorts
rustybronco
It's capitalism fault really. I mean how thinly veiled does it have to be. Capitalism - easiest way to make most money =wining
ParanoidWithGoodCause
true-ish but the correct solution for this problem is also capitalism: people take their money elsewhere and support better games instead.
mrread55
Problem boils down to profits now vs loyalty later. Lot of businesses are doing a lot of shady shit in order to boost their profit margin
mrread55
year after year even at the cost of customer loyalty later because they're fighting for perceived growth in the short term rather than
mrread55
steady, reliable growth long term. It's along the lines of "this may fuck someone over someday, but I won't be around to have to worry."
mandadadada
Well I believe they could have found a way to save their company without having butchered their games THAT much EA had more than 1 economic>
jbjba12345
Hes not talking economics, EA has a history of buying actual good studios only to lay off employees and shut the studio down
mandadadada
Idk why they don't/didn't profit from it instead... But maybe that branch would get too strong and the main EA folks would be depreciated
mandadadada
>>problem, a few years ago their games were targeted at a mostly very young public which is bad economic planning. Now their FCO is a PSYCHO
purgethefilthyheretics
Assumptions about their boss mental health just sounds completely off topic though. Also everyone knows EA has been shit for a while 1/2
mandadadada
2 which is totally unethical. They KNOW damn well a lot of their consumers are young kids, that's pretty fuckedup IMO especially in a tittle
purgethefilthyheretics
This time they just stepped way out of line and it has been brought a lot of attention. This is the definition of a shitpost. 2/2
mandadadada
As far as assumptions go you know CEOS have high rates of psychopath traits. And this type of gambling loot is literally letting kids gamble
purgethefilthyheretics
My point is that it's completely irrelevant as the path of the game is not made by just one CEO. You're still shitposting.
purgethefilthyheretics
Everyone has psychopathic traits, but you need them all to be one. And I've never seen any evidence of that CEOs have more than most people.
mandadadada
Then you've been living under a stone. Some psychopathic traits are what brings them to their positions. And no, you mustn't fit all traits>
EGOT
If I could still buy the original sims, like the game I got for Christmas like 16 years ago, I would give them my money.
ParanoidWithGoodCause
you can, it would be used though so the money would go to someone else.
EGOT
I mean like, downloadable. I have a macbook air, so I don't even have a disk drive haha
ParanoidWithGoodCause
well they have USB disc drives or you can go with the buccaneer option...
EGOT
I have tried the buccaneer option, what sites do people use for that kind of thing these days?
trikucian
With the exception of Bioware I haven't gotten an EA game in a while. The big thing is don't pre-order, especially not for a digital copy.
Sentinelricce
Ayy. All of the EA games I have are BioWare ones. ME2, DA:O, and SWTOR...but you don't buy that one, so.
trikucian
I bought SWTOR when it first came out, and played like 5 hours before getting annoyed with grinding.
Sentinelricce
Amendment: You don't buy it anymore* I keep forgetting it used to require the sub to even play at all. Also, I think they fixed the
Sentinelricce
grinding issue until you hit FUCKING TARIS.
Donkeymong
Imo the people to blame are all the idiots who buy fifa packs.
heylookitsmyusername
I think more of the blame is on people who immediately pre-buy or order when they see a fucking trailer
mandadadada
Idiocy at its finest idd
Donkeymong
For the lowering standards i agree but for the microtrans i would bet money that ea are aiming to replicate the success of fifa packs.
inlovewiththecoco
Why does everyone act like EA killed their mother and shit on their beds? They make shitty video games, don't buy them.
s13bro
If everyone says nothing, nothing will be done. Bitch a little and people start noticing. Not everyone is as smart as you or I.
inlovewiththecoco
I hate EA too but goddamn this is so overblown it's ridiculous
Donkeymong
I completely agree, does my comment indicate i dont?
inlovewiththecoco
No sorry it was just one of the easiest places to address where it might actually be seen (sorry!). Less replies
Donkeymong
No need to be sorry. Needs to be more people saying it.
mandadadada
Well, you can't stop those people at all. But the ones that preorder EA and then complain when it turns out to be shit. Need perspective
ilikecamels
people that still pre-order things in general, regardless of the company.. i shake my head. Stop feeding the monsters
mandadadada
Plus beta playing is basically working for them and paying to find bugs... It... It... Bugs me
candiedhotdogs
You can thank sports games for basically turning EA into what it is now.
Kube420
I'm glad they don't make baseball
Kube420
MLB the show on PlayStation is a solid series made by 989 I think. Better than ea
mandadadada
And sports fans...
CoolGarbageMan
...That's a lot of people.
JohnFloorwalker
oh shut the fuck up.
JohnFloorwalker
why are sports fans to blame?
gethiptothewiz
Exactly people forget when their used to be other football games and they was competition to be better then EA made Madden the only game
AmateurNBAGM
NFL 2k5 was a fantastic game. Which is why EA made an exclusive deal with the NFL to get rid of competition. Look what happened w/live v 2k
gethiptothewiz
Exactly bro
gethiptothewiz
NFL 2k5 was so fun and now 2k is starting to falter a bit because they have no competition.
AmateurNBAGM
I havent gotten 2k18. I thought 2k17 was great especially the myplayer story I also preferred their baseball games when I got baseball games
gethiptothewiz
I haven't like a myplayer story since 2k15. Justice Young was so stupid in my opinion.
dontfuqtheworldupohwaityoudid
Also yes
PerkyPineapple
I mean if you're a sports fan and only have one option what are you supposed to do?
Lvl28Larvitar
Yup. I hate EA too but I buy the new NHL game every year to play EASHL with my friends.
NextineX
Don't buy their garbage? You don't have to enable a monopoly, just because you're a fan of what the monopoly was built upon.
Bunbury2306
Play sports?
JohnFloorwalker
THANK YOU
kranchan
I mean it's the same game every year with marginally better graphics. Aren't you bored with it by now?
AtomIndigo
Play better games
CorgisRule
Don't buy a new Madden game every year
mandadadada
This
heylookitsmyusername
I think the majority of people dont
romicra88
Especially with how easy a simple update would be. Maybe not mechanics like live actual player stats, but once it's in, back to updates
PerkyPineapple
I'm not saying you should, but it doesn't change the fact that EA is the only one making them. Sometimes you don't have a choice
CorgisRule
You're right. My comment is just about adding less fuel to the raging fire that is EA
trikucian
There's also 2K sports.
JohnFloorwalker
nah. EA bought the NFL & ESPN copyrights & shit. they're the only ones that can legally make a NFL game
charlie2979
Not really. It's maybe slightly different now with pes being good again but for 10 years it was EA or nothing.
trikucian
I'm just glad MLB fell out with EA because of EA bullshit and just works with Sony.
PerkyPineapple
MVP baseball 2005 is still the best baseball game ever made
SirBillington
But they basically only do basketball don't they? I mean they stopped making 2k football
MuddPumpkin
2K football got killed off when EA bought sole rights to use NFL teams/player likenesses from the league. That was over 10 years ago.
cspinasdf
I'd play a 2k football engine game with CFL teams or customization teams and players with NFL rules.