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zylokun
I don't believe his allegations.. But I still don't like him. He's kind of a dick
ObiJuancho
Alloooora!
SerMowgli
Buena noté!
Mykill73
#istandwithaziz
kaijinMaker
Did u see they blurred Kevin Spacey from House of Card tiles?
N3rdyG1rl
Whoa no I didn’t. Do you have a screenshot?
FourMonthsAgo
I assume https://imgur.com/96BjFcz from https://www.reddit.com/r/netflix/comments/7b2do9/netflix_n">Fcz">https://imgur.com/96BjFcz from https://www.reddit.com/r/netflix/comments/7b2do9/netflix_new_house_of_cards_logo_is_a_blurred_out/
CaptainObviouslikesthemthicc
I love that show btw Netflix spent alot of money on it.
catpr0m
Fo sure. To piggyback, I think Netflix was more just promoting an award winning show they spent a lot on. rather than supporting anything.
2graves
Doesn't look expensive at all outside of employees
itskuschnotkusch
the column made it clear she went in expecting something affectionate, sweet, and relationship-worthy. she got a normal bad hookup.
itskuschnotkusch
as a rape survivor, i resent the fact she had 100 percent agency, and did not use it. if you aren't intoxicated, overpowered, or in fear..
itskuschnotkusch
then you have to communicate, especially bc the column acknowledged he may simply have not picked up on her nonverbal cues. then SPEAK UP.
GingerlySharlie2718
Pointing finger at individuals doesn't help. Some larger factor created the pattern. Try to understand why, and move forward together?
pobodyisnerfect
Well... he didnt do anything illegal, he was just creepy.
RavennaMagnus
The last episode of season 2 is really weird in hindsight
itrhymeswithclark
I though it was clever. I liked how it sat there and reminded me of times I had that feeling.
Megvilla
YESSSSS!
mountainmintman
I thought the same, wonder when it was shot.
bratislavaisforlovers
Yeah the whole thing about Chef Jeff is pretty nuts
reijigin
Yeah and he said in an interview something about how you assume Dev is a good guy before this, but then "what if he isn't?" Which I 1/2
reijigin
remember was phrased in such a way it stood out to me as weird, bc I still felt like the show WAS framing Dev as the good guy. 2/2
coolestkidalive
"I 100% condone this behavior." Such a weird line to include?
redwesley
I think that was meant to demonstrate how easy it is to get demonised in these things. He clearly mispoke and the audience and host pounced.
therealtexan
Season 2 just sucked
denigreur
Damn, for me it was even better than the first one. What didn't you like ?
Gonz000
Kovares
Agreed!
JustGoWithIt191
He was pushy and crossed a line, but he didn't assault her. I think harassed is the right term. Definitely doesn't need legal reprocusions
Iwillnotfearfearisthemindkiller
Agreed. It seems like he was being a douche, but nothing illegal happened. She also never seems to have accused him of anything illegal.
Iwillnotfearfearisthemindkiller
He seems like a decent guy who misread a situation and acted poorly. I, as a lady, have done the same in my life. It's a learning experience
JustGoWithIt191
I agree, to an extent. I don't think this ruins my image of him. But I do think its behavior he should work to correct
Iwillnotfearfearisthemindkiller
Total agreement from me. I think this is good, it shows you don't have to be a total ass to have majorly shitty behavior.
PortaPottyJoe
He said he wanted more life experience for a third season....so, fingers crossed this is enough for that.
WeAreTheRobots
Not sexual harassment but looks like he doesn't know how to treat women.
m0wgli
Allora!!!
Sheepyhead
I absolutely despise his character in Parks and Rec...
Clairoza
The only post like this ill upvote
Whatsname
Never watched anything Netflix but kudos on them for this.
JaxDagger
Some of the netflix originals are some of the BEST shows in years and they pretty much bought all the best shows that aren't theres now too
LoverOfTheMother
The only thing I'm mad at Aziz for is that season 3 isn't coming for a while
RenegadeSci
The thing I'm happy about is all these guys bringing this up at bars like he's a victim on first dates and the girls knowing to slip out.
twozerooz
I'm just happy a lot of nutjob chicks out there pretending shes a victim and guys know to stay away. Those are the type of girls
twozerooz
to "revoke" consent the next day then claim it was rape. It's great they're broadcasting their insanity so easily now.
sophronia18101
It was never about consent. She never called it assault. She just said the date sucked. Its angry boys that blew this out of proportion.
twozerooz
No she specifically said "it took me a while to come to terms with the fact that I had been sexually assaulted"
twozerooz
Like seriously at least fucking read before trying weigh in on something. Why are you just believing your own imagination?
MotherFukaJonez
Damn good show!
BatmanButt
When is season 3 coming?!?!?
Leajjes
Maybe never. Aziz been pretty iffy on if he's going to do another.
drummer988
Aziz mentioned before that he feels that his life hasn't progressed enough for him to write a complete third season that he'll be proud of.
derrymerbles
He said the same thing after season one. And he did not disappoint
drummer988
Season one was released November 6, 2015. Season two was released May 12, 2017. It may be a while until we get a season 3
matti900
He just got some new material to write on
DJDogBreath69
I mean, let’s be honest. That’s a completely fair and valid response to provide
RandomLama7
Regardless of what happened, you know they had two scenarios prepared based on which direction the public outcry tipped.
Iwillnotfearfearisthemindkiller
I really encourage reading the original report, a lot of edited versions are floating around. https://babe.net/2018/01/13/aziz-ansari-28355
spetcnaz
I did. I am angry that I wasted my time on a tirade of some emotional child in a adult's body. It is crazy that people are even discussing
spetcnaz
this as if she has a point. None of the members here would want their sexual encounters aired to the world. Oh I didn't like how this person
spetcnaz
did this one thing, let me try to ruin his life. People around the world are dealing with existential issues, US with it's own massive
spetcnaz
problems is discussing the sex quality of two near strangers. Jesus Christ
Heathen92
I feel he was way out of line. I'm not sure if shoving his fingers down her throat repeatedly was a crime(could be) but I know he 1/
Heathen92
is an asshole based on this. And he admitted it was true. This is the dude who wrote "modern romance." 2/2
spetcnaz
I really do not like him as a entertainer. But to conclude that he is asshole because of how he has sex with another consenting adult is
spetcnaz
absurd to say the least. It is a intimate issue. Anal sex was punishable by death not long ago.
IllCaesar
He was pushy and not respectful of her boundaries. He's no predator but it is douchey.
spetcnaz
According to who? I wasn't there, were you? Her boundaries are set by her, she seem to have failed.
Heathen92
False equivalence. Sodomy might have been a crime once but that doesn't magically make jamming your fingers in someone's mouth acceptable.1/
Heathen92
Also who are you to be the arbiter of what's considered an asshole? If treated your sister or you that way I hope you'd fucking object. 2/2
Flonaise
Taaaake youuurr haaands....off meeee
redwesley
Iunderstoodthatreference.gif. Seriously underrated comment.
matthiasfactor
Honestly, his stand up is not funny. Seeing these reviews though, maybe I’ll check out this show.
therealvandu
He is by far my favorite stand up comedian and I find him quite clever, but you have a right to your own opinion. You could probably (1/2)
therealvandu
word that better and say "I don't find his stand up funny" not "his stand up is not funny." (2/2)
matthiasfactor
I could but I’m not going to.
realbrickwall
If you don't like his stand-up, you probably won't like his show. Still, do check it out, because life is wasted if you don't take chances.
jeanslesssocks
Tru dat
honkahonka82
I disagree. I’ve gone to one of his shows and I feel like master of none is quite different from his stand up. I like both.
realbrickwall
I honestly agree that there's a large difference, but the similarities are rather prominent. I personally like his stand-up but not MoN.
Sugarpandabutt
I disagree too. Not a huge fan of his standup. Very much like his show.
Doumdidoum
Can people relax? There's not even a police investigation into these allegations.
Blackbird2Raven
Regardless of your opinion on the encounter, I have to say: don't keep sticking your fingers in someone's mouth. That's a little weird.
Megvilla
Word.
TheJudgeHasItBackwards
Man, chicks do weird sexual stuff all the time, I can't count the number of time they have done something I wasn't into. Not harassment tho.
longNECKpeople
Yea... Yea.
Anonymous0199846
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot makes a pretty good point of this.
LosPer
Only if all your moves are inspired by porn...
ElDoofer
reijigin
People keep saying "some folks like that" but y'all, if you put a finger in someone's mouth and they don't get excited, don't KEEP doing it.
reijigin
It ain't assault to do something not to the other person's taste, but it is DEEPLY UNSEXY to just keep on a-doin' it.
spetcnaz
Then they should say so or stop the person from doing it in the 1st place
reijigin
Listen. I'm not saying it's assault to try it. You're just straight bad at sex if you can't tell if your partner is enjoying something.
reijigin
You really think it's sexier for someone to have to say "hey uh please stop putting your fingers in my mouth" than to just pay attention?
spetcnaz
You think it's ok to write a national article about a encounter which didn't match your sexual preferences?
mthrndr01
Some people seem to be into it. It doesn't strike me as a great move for that first sexual encounter though
Blackbird2Raven
Yeah. Seems like something that would come up when one's taste in spanking.
Mimsey
Not a great first move, but it's widely popular to make your partner suck a finger during the act. Especially if you then use it elsewhere.
spetcnaz
Maybe she should not get into a sexual encounter on the 1st date?! I mean it is a intimate thing and people have different preferences. She
RoboTrumble
Cool, so if you go home with a girl she can jam a giant dildo right up your ass, right? You agreed to sex so that means everything's allowed
spetcnaz
I see the reality deniers are not liking the comment. Let's do intimate things with people we barely know and expect 100% satisfaction rate
spetcnaz
This is insane
spetcnaz
wants to practice sexual liberty well with everything in life there are consequences. Guys don't have bad dates? Or bad sex? It def. doesn't
RoboTrumble
"She wants to practice sexual liberty" wtf is wrong with you, the punishment for going on a date is not getting fingers jammed in your mouth
spetcnaz
get national attention. I don't like Ansari as a comic, but what's right is right. National outing of a intimate moment because one's
spetcnaz
Cinderella moment didn't happen and try to make it sound like sexual assault is insane.
spetcnaz
Says who? I mean it's not my thing but people have different tastes. If we are going along with the hook up culture well we have to accept
RoboTrumble
Hey fuckboy, "hookup culture" isn't some immoral thing that needs to be punished with body violations.
spetcnaz
Hey moron. Define body violation when you are having sex. Slapping a person on a street is a violation in bed many prefer it. You want
RoboTrumble
Sexual assault, you horrifying slime monster
spetcnaz
have the cake and eat it too. Oh let me fuck this person I just met, well sure go ahead but here are possible issues that can come up.
spetcnaz
No one fucking owes you a harmonious life without any awkward moments. He is moving his finger to your mouth push it away and say I don't
spetcnaz
the consequences that it brings; good and bad. You don't become an Formula 1 pilot and expect only to have fast fun rides, sometimes you car
spetcnaz
might end up in pieces. You do everything you can so it does not but it happens. Same here.
RoboTrumble
So if you go to a bed with a girl and she bites your dick off, you'd go "welp, I accept the consequences"?
spetcnaz
Talk about playing devil's advocate there ey? To follow my analogy what you said would be so if your crew members sabotage your car and it
spetcnaz
explodes, should we accept that consequence when chosing F1 pilot as a career? You are being obtuse on purpose. Biting dicks off is way out
Proxymanity
Well I say : If you're not comfortable, tell them him/her.
RoboTrumble
SHE DID.
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RoboTrumble
Kept after he badgered her incessantly and made it explicitly clear he didn't care about her bodily autonomy
RoboTrumble
If you put your hand on someone and they move your hand away, what did they tell you?
RoboTrumble
If you do something and the other person physically stops you and walks away, that's your fucking cue to stop, creepshow
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spetcnaz
And then comes back and asks for a massage and hair play right? What planet are you folks from? This self entitlement you folks have. Wow
twominutesforhighsticking
I have been enjoying/agreeing with your comments on the last few posts. Only noticed the username after I thought "goddamn right."
RoboTrumble
Thank you, that means so much to me. It usually feels like I'm all alone on this stuff.
twominutesforhighsticking
You're definitely not...I think many of us are just tired of being downvoted, argued with, or marginalized. Too exhausting. :/
spetcnaz
You know caps lock doesn't change realities
RoboTrumble
You know dating isn't something that needs to be punished with sexual assault?
spetcnaz
No she didn't. If she is uncomfortable around him she should leave and not sit in front of him and expect a massage and hair grooming.
RoboTrumble
Where the fuck did that "massage and hair grooming" shit come from, one of your weird rapist pornos?
spetcnaz
Which means that she either is BSing, or doesn't know what she wants and that is not on anyone else to figure out. If she has psychological
spetcnaz
issues she can seek help
wheresmymoneydenny
Aziz seems like an awesome dude; have a strong feeling he doesn’t deserve any of this bullshit.
FullMetalBitch
2) not illegal, it was still a pretty shitty way to treat a person, especially on a first date.
mardukkur
Yeah, clearly, but nuance is lost on some.
Gosuamakenatek
Louis CK always seemed like an awesome dude too. Doesn't mean he didn't deserve what he got.
Heathen92
Most comics hate him for slimy social climber. Owen Benjamin has a story where he said hi to Aziz and the dude just stared at him twice. 1/
Heathen92
Later when Owen was with Vince Vaughn Aziz was very friendly and said "what's up!?" by name... as soon as he was standing next to someone 2/
Heathen92
who could help Aziz's career. That's the kind of dude Aziz is. Maybe you think that's awesome. I don't. 3/3
FullMetalBitch
He just pushed over and over after she said no, putting his hands on her, in her mouth etc. till she felt backed into a corner. While it’s(1
thisguy79
No, when she said no he stopped completely and called her a cab. Stop spreading this crap about her saying no and him ignoring it.
FullMetalBitch
I didn’t say he ignored it, every time she turned him down he did stop, for a while. Then he started it over again. Like I said, not illegal
Iwillnotfearfearisthemindkiller
Actually not according to the original report. It's a long read, but worth it: https://babe.net/2018/01/13/aziz-ansari-28355
FullMetalBitch
2) it’s still a shitty thing to do. I don’t think he deserves to loose his job or anything but that’s scummy behavior, assuming it all true.
FullMetalBitch
Lose*
KokoMotion
"After he bent me over is when I stood up and said no" (from article) that was before he went to undo her pants on the couch. 1/2
KokoMotion
She also previously said she didn't want to have sex until a second date. That would mean "no" to sex that night, pretty clearly.
KokoMotion
I get that what he did was typical male behavior, but the purpose of her story is for us to learn from it, not to have Aziz's head.
twozerooz
This is false. She never once said no. In fact, all of her nonverbal cues quite clearly told him she was into it. If all someone has to do
twozerooz
Is ask for a BJ and you give one, that's quite a strong signal that you're into it. Nevermind the fact she took her clothes off,
KokoMotion
He undressed her. She said she didn't want to have sex until the second date. That means, pretty clearly, not tonight.
twozerooz
She was fully interested in absolutely everything else. The second time he asked for sex she said no and he called her a cab.
twozerooz
kept letting him stick his fingers in her mouth, let him go down on her....
FullMetalBitch
You can be cool with somethings and not be okay with other things, right? She said he was pushy in certain moments, which is shitty. Not (1
FullMetalBitch
2) lose your job and be slandered, shitty. But shitty enough that we should have a discussion on the normalcy of that behavior.
midsongnipplerub
Unlike other allegations. What he did wasn’t sexual harassment and most people agree. His career will be fine. Katey May’s, won’t.
EsportsLawyer
what were the accusations?
Warbunny5000
Yes, it was a bad date. She just did it for attention. She even said the “sexual stuff” she did was consensual? Its a wacky story?
tonyjarrets
Just read about Katie Way. If only we had a trash can for humans. She’d be top of that pile right now.
midsongnipplerub
*katie way
theyar
Where the support for Garrison Keillor? Dude literally just accidentally slipped his hand up the back of a friend's shirt when he meant 1/2
theyar
to pat her on the back. And his long career ended instantly, years later, when she brought it back up. 2/2
spidersaystofly
Katey May is a blogger. What career?
Leaderfuzzy
What did Aziz Ansari do?
mthrndr01
Had an awkward sexual experience without realizing it, apologized when confronted the next day. Lady turned it over to the media.
mthrndr01
Disclaimer: It's a very simple summary, feel free to just read an article.
thelordoflame
Totally. Read her full email "I'm 22, and so far not too shabby!" Fuck off you pretentious cunt.
whereamandwhatamidoinghere
Don't go to her twitter account it's just ugh.
spetcnaz
I can imagine
spetcnaz
I prefer red wine. The fucking entitlement she has. Honestly who starts a supposed traumatic event bitching about red vs white wine?
mstalltree
Anyone wondering who Katie Way is...she is the writer for the website Babe who published the story and is now attacking women
KillaVLY
It was so disrespectful when she attacked Ashleigh Banfield for her age and her looks.
mstalltree
Petty and disgraceful. Being a woman, I find it abhorring how some women claim to be feminists and then attack women for age/looks etc.
trikucian
Which is really stupid because Banfield is a crazy accomplished journalist on top of being gorgeous
Mimsey
Calling her a "writer" is a stretch. She's a low-tier clickbait blogger who sought this story out. Nobody came to her with it.
therealvandu
Yeahhh as a victim of sexual assault, I could clearly tell this was just a case of misunderstandings and her regretting sexual activity(1/2)
therealvandu
Then feeling gross after realizing she wasn’t attracted to him. She confused that feeling for feeling violated. And him being the (2/3).
therealvandu
Awkward guy he is just missed the cues. He probably shocked right now and he didn’t even understand what happened. (3/4)
therealvandu
Sorry for the misnumbering
potatotheloaf
Yes, agreed. I feel you. There were several parts of the story when I was like why didn’t she leave then? Why did she continue then? (1/2)
therealvandu
Exactly what I'm saying! And girls like these give girls who have actually suffered less credibility; as if we're just overreacting. (1/3)
potatotheloaf
Wait, he had already backed off, why was she back on him...? I don’t recall any part of my assaults where they backed off...
Irishda
Shocking update guys: turns out women know the difference between this stuff cause most of them have unfortunately lived it
emilytangerine8910
That’s right. Almost every woman I know has been accosted in some way.
Flyndaran
Most men I know were abused by women. It's horrible just how many bad people of all types there are out there.
Rosfmmmhzdrozzley
What is it abuse? I haven't felt that way about myself or most of my friends, at least as far as I know about.
emilytangerine8910
Absolutely terrible! We just have to keep all the dialogue going, I guess. Everyone should feel safe in their relationships.
aluriilol
I've been abused by a woman. I know a lot of people would consider it dumb but it happens!
teslathemaxpuppy
Uh i think you meant Katie Way or something close but google says Katey May is dead... cuz i tried to look it up... was alittle confused
Sinjai
As long as your alot wasn't confused.
UnremarkablyInteresting
I think shes the moron reporter that wrote the article. I say moron cause of her childish reply to the reporter that called out the story
Cubez88
Turn that M upside down (:
darkhalfbreed
Well Katey May's career won't go anyware either
Molvanian
I mean, that would definitely harm her career.
2graves
To be fair, that's not good for your career
thatguyisreallydeep
Can be fatal for your career even.
midsongnipplerub
My bad, you right.
LawmanLata
Australian?
mstalltree
Anyone wondering who Katie Way is...she is the writer for the website Babe who published the story and is now attacking women.
UnremarkablyInteresting
Whatever credibility she had, she has lost with her email to Ashleigh Banfield. It was a very childish and moronic reply.
Toderdj
attacking women in what way?
SkeletonsLoveBooty
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RedFaction2142
With medieval jousting of course.
Chpgmr
through words on the internet
leemariefink
https://www.thedailybeast.com/writer-behind-aziz-ansari-piece-sent-nasty-email-to-ashleigh-banfield
uncordinatedstall
Thanks for the link
CheshireCad
A journalist tears into Katie for her actions, and Katie writes her to say that her hair is dumb, and her lipstick isn't very good.
CheshireCad
Like, you don't throw shade by just describing someone's outfit and implying it's bad. If you play that game, you need to bring the thunder.
ImJeffwithaG
With a rusted spoon and her own dung.
IDrawALot
she's a real bitch
jinko82
the word you are looking for is cunt.
Spearse
Why settle on one when we can say both!
IDrawALot
ah, yes, my mistake. one of those nasty fish cunts you realize your ex has when your marriage is deteriorating
onlyhalfghost
Cunts are desirable, warm and have depth, which doesn't sound like how I'd describe her...
duckwithnofreaktogive
What did he do?
xeno426
Was bad at sex and made the girl uncomfortable.
IllCaesar
He was pushy and verbally coercive during a date. Not sexual assault or harassment but not exactly respectful of boundaries either.
benayises
By normal people's standards: nothing. BY HIS OWN STANDARDS: harrassment and possible rape
stabbedintheface
He went on date
duckwithnofreaktogive
That is it?
2shy4you
Ate a girl out, asked for sex, she said no and wanted to leave, he called her a cab.
GumZi
The nerve!
FullMetalBitch
He kept pressing her for sex over and over despite her saying no, putting his hands on her, in her mouth etc.. finally she agreed to a bj (1
FullMetalBitch
2) so that maybe he would back off. It’s not assault but it is harassment. While it’s not illegal that was still super shit of him.
midsongnipplerub
Did you read the article? She said “no” exactly once. At which point he put his clothes on and sat down to watch Seinfeld with her.
Spaceolympian
Not quite. He kept trying to touch her after they sat down to watch Seinfeld and then he got a cab when she wanted to leave.
LetsplayJustthetip
Ah yes. What I read is she never said no. She said she "PHYSICALLY IMPLIED" it which we all know hold no water.
plsnerfloneliness
Wouldnt this work the other way of consent? She physically implied it without saying it? But that literally holds no water
LetsplayJustthetip
Bottom line: Did she say " no stop I don't want to" She says she didn't.
usernameoriginal
So did you read both full articles or just big bold lettering and assumed it was the man's fault. You might be sexiest.
FullMetalBitch
I read several articles from both sides. I never said he was at fault for anything except stop&go pressuring which isn’t cool from anyone
fucktruck
Except she stated she didn't directly say no only "nonverbal cues" and that she didn't think it was assault til her friend said it was.
FullMetalBitch
Geez this whole thing is a mess, I read that she said “not tonight”, “maybe later” and the like.
twozerooz
Nope. She said "Not right now" then took her clothes off and gave him a BJ. He asked for sex, she said no, he immediately called a cab.
asmpsUnityDog
What's a non-verbal cue when your blowing someone ?
WhatTheFrench
I wonder what her nonverbal cues were. I pictured stuff like wrinkling her nose or pulling away slightly or just not being visibly into it.
WhatTheFrench
If they were things like firmly pushing him away or trying to leave, though, that starts to get different.
twozerooz
She admitted she only said no ONCE, then he called her a cab.
FullMetalBitch
She had said things like “not right now” “maybe next time” but like I’ve said in another thread: Assuming this is all true, it’s not (1)
FullMetalBitch
2) illegal or should be career ending- this kind of behavior (stop & go pressuring) does need to be talked about as not cool.
twozerooz
Agreed. Showing obvious signs of interest then pretending you weren't in an effort to claim sexual assault is abhorrent behaviour! Not cool.