Graham Platner (pictured) is not perfect, but he's pretty good, and is being attacked by Ted Cruz, Lindsay Graham, Noem and other lapdogs. I sent a campaign contribution.
We didnt let them stay in power. The system did. Our whole system is rotten and corrupt. i still do not know how people are still voting republican... it has to be a fake number... there is just no fucking way. Now they are just going to take the elections away because their attempts at sabotage is no longer working. 2.3 MILLION people in texas voted democrat.. to the previous election which only had 800k people vote democrat... the winds are changing and they know it.
lol my dad who just came back from spending a month and a half disconnected in the desert was asking about and mentioning this. him bringing up politics at all is basically like an average person screaming "wtf is going on?!!". hes all like wait Kuwait is attacking us too? and i had to tell him it was an accident on our end.
Make sure to let him know that somewhere between our joint attacks with israel 1 of us killed a bunch of school children, be it US or Israel. Also between the 2 of us we have killed over 1k civilians.
The 2nd amendment was created specifically to solve the problem of a government that does not represent the governed - whether it be corrupt courts, bribed officials, or merely the lunacy of endless war.
Trumpism needs to be crushed at the ballot box for it to truly go away. The public needs to send an unambiguous signal to DC that fascism is a hard 'no' regardless of political affiliations. If Trump had lost by a landslide in 2020, Republicans would have abandoned him and HE WOULD HAVE GONE AWAY.
Anyone who tells you to protest vote is either a fascist or a useful idiot.
I'm terrified they're gonna yoink the elections. Trump said he wants to fully 'federalize' the elections, removing voting places, and making it VERY limited.
I believe that if the midterms are not free and fair there will be a large increase in political violence targeting senior members of the administration.
As a non-american I'm more afraid that people are lying to themselves again and there are more trump voters (still) around than we would like to believe. And even if the Democrats win, the US political and judicial systems are so thoroughly broken that I have very little hope for it to get any better - especially as it also benefits democrat politicians and they have never really fixed it in the past.
we saw how many Trumpers are out there. There's more non trumpers, we just gotta convince them to vote. Many have realized their mistake, and we're slowly seeing corrections, but the midterms might be cooked before we get there.
Luckily he's all talk on that and can't actually do anything about it. No provision exists in the United States for halting or federalizing elections for any reason. Even during the Civil War, we still had midterms and a presidential election.
what about provisions on tarriffs without congress? Or war? Or entering homes illegally and arresting citizens, illegally and detaining them... illegally?
All of that has been stopped by the courts or gets thrown out when it finally reaches the courts. That's why ICE is now trying to delay people's court cases as much as they can - because they lose every time when they do illegal shit.
They wouldn't be ready for how upsetty spaghetti everyone would be. It's also 100s of small elections. They're run at the county level for this exact reason. Basically we haven't seen the military truly show their anger yet. This would rip off the kid gloves. Deference to the civilian government. So they say "Sir yes sir." while being REALLY pissed in private. It's critical that the populous see the military as loyal to their elected government.
People fundamentally need to understand that the generals follow through with his retarded ideas because they are loyal to the Constitution and the people. We elected him and Congress seems to have given him these powers and be ok with it. Congress signals this by not stopping him. They are the military what war powers the President has isn't supposed to be their perview. Civilian government makes policy. Military says "Sir yes sir." because we elected the idiots. We choose the mils bosses.
I know that Imgur collectively decided that it was taboo to watch the SotU broadcast, but I did.
And guess what? One of Trump's major talking points was how they are going to federally require proof of citizenship at the polls and make mail-in ballots generally illegal.
So, that's their plan and they are not trying to hide it.
Biden sat down for tea with Trump and gave him the keys to the kingdom. If Democrats at all believed their own rhetoric about Republican fascism, that Republicans represent an existential threat, then that tea would have been poisoned. You would think they would put up SOME resistance. At the very least you would expect them to not participate.
If Democrats fail to inspire the electorate, then they need to take responsibility for that.
There are reasons why people don't trust the Democrats.
Here's the problem. The Dems are complicit, enablers, barely anti fascist let alone actually progressive. But they're the only other option. Hold your nose... Or what? Serious question for both sides of this argument. Can we do better than this paradigm? How?
Butbutbut some "leftist" on the Internet told me that both parties are totes the same, and we should teach the Dems a lesson by refusing to vote for them.
Biden was completely beholden to Israel and sent them fourteen thousand 2,000lb bombs and bulldozers to enact their genocide. When Israel bombed another school, the administration said they confronted Israel but it later came out that was a lie and there was no pushback. Israel forced this Iran war and if Harris was in power then there’s nothing to suggest the Dems wouldn’t be doing exactly the same as trump: gaslighting and spinning hard to justify going to war.
I don't fucking care what the polls say, who is viable, who is not, or who anyone votes for for that matter, just fucking vote! Stop leaving the choice up to others who are motivated to vote. Voting is a serious responsibility and everyone should have been taking it seriously for generations already. VOTE!
Leftist here who would just argue.. Please do not blindly vote because "Oh hey he's got a (D) by his name! Good enough!"
Like, fuck yes vote against the fascists in the generals. Not gonna question that But vote in the primaries, too. Vote for the *good* candidates, not just the ones who manage the absolute bare scraping the bottom of the barrel minimum of not being a neo-Nazi. Please, for the love of Satan, demand better from the people meant to represent you.
Fellow leftist reporting in: you have to remember that Imgur is Liberal with Progressive tendencies at best. That said, there are plenty of dyed-in-the-wool Liberals on here that unironically think "Vote Blue No Matter Who" is good policy and are unwilling to criticism the Democratic establishment for their many failures. They are unable or unwilling to distinguish between "Both sides are bad" Centrist(re: Right) rhetoric and Leftists calling out the DNC for pushing terrible candidates.
How the fuck do you think voting for the less progressive candidate in an election is going to help anything? "Vote blue no matter who" was based on the VERY FUCKING REAL observation that one of the two major parties was LITERALLY running on taking away votes and killing people in the streets. "That's not sufficient justification for me to vote for someone slightly less progressive than I want" is the ultimate egotistical privileged shit. The reason people don't differentiate between centrist
bullshit and calling out Democrats for supposedly having terrible candidates is that every single fucking argument about why D candidate are bad from you guys always boils down to "they could be more progressive, so I'm gonna support the literal nazis". You don
't want to be treated like a "both sides bad" spongebob centrist? Stop acting like one. Vote for the progressive candidate in the primaries, and then VOTE FOR THE BEST CANDIDATE IN THE ELECTION REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY MEET YOUR STUPID PURITY TESTS. You literally helped get a nazi elected who is killing people around the world and you /still/ fucking think you did the right thing by not voting Harris? Fuck you.
I feel it's important to distinguish between progressives running under the democrat flag and establishment democrats. The New York major might have a D near his name but it was obvious that the democrat establishment saw him as the enemy. Just because he and some other "democrats" are different doesn't mean that the party itself isn't garbage. If you want to change something you can't trust most democrats to do it but the people that want to do it are likely to be democrats.
How is it obvious that the democrat establishment saw him as the enemy? Justify that nonsense? Because what I saw what the democrat establishment run a ranked choice primary that gave him a better chance to win, then run him as their candidate with all but like 2 of the D's who have ever endorsed candidates for NY mayor endorse him, many before the primary vote. Explain to me exactly how you determined, through actions, that the D's hated Mamdani without using the sentence "somebody told me".
I saw article after article and commenter after commenter make this bullshit argument, always with the justification of "I found a Democrat who doesn't like him, which proves they all think he's the enemy and hate him!" Yet somehow there were no attempts to stop him being the Dem candidate, no endorsements of a non-D candidate by Democrats (with literally 1 exception), nothing to actual fight the supposed "enemy of the establishment" or prevent his victory. Ya'll brainwashed :(
There are always outliers like Fetterman but even the most shitty corporatist establishment Democrat (e.g. Newsom or Pelosi) is still light years better than literal fascism.
It doesn't fucking matter analysing it, just vote. People are gonna vote for who they are gonna vote for. Stop trying to game it all out and decide whether it's worth it or not, just do it. If everyone votes guess what happens? The majority wins.
I think it does, because I feel a lot of people saw that Biden just left trump and maga continue as if nothing happened and it really demoralized them and made them feel like there's no point in voting. Give them enough people who just let maga get away with it and they won't just vote because they will feel at their core that it really doesn't matter.
And that mentality is EXACTLY what has led to the Republucan take over the entire system. This ain't going to be even remotely close to being fixed in a single election cycle. Americans are too used to things just having an "instant fix" and when it doesn't happen they throw their hands up and give up. But ya, just sit on your fucking hands and pout about it some more, see how that continues to work for ya.
There is a difference between not solving everything immediately and doing nothing and letting the fascists get away with their crap. You win wars by destroying the enemy's morale. Same with this stuff.
GhostTater
Graham Platner (pictured) is not perfect, but he's pretty good, and is being attacked by Ted Cruz, Lindsay Graham, Noem and other lapdogs. I sent a campaign contribution.
DeepThought42
Check the notes on the mid term primaries in Texas this week, and the FBI raid of Georgia election headquarters
Evil shenanigans are underway
ItsACrazyWorld
We didnt let them stay in power. The system did. Our whole system is rotten and corrupt. i still do not know how people are still voting republican... it has to be a fake number... there is just no fucking way. Now they are just going to take the elections away because their attempts at sabotage is no longer working. 2.3 MILLION people in texas voted democrat.. to the previous election which only had 800k people vote democrat... the winds are changing and they know it.
outsailing772
Iblamemyparentstoo
JFC
JackingMeHoff
As Senate Republicans refuse to block restrictions on Trump using military in the useless never ending Iran war.
tempUser7824
tells me a lot of them are in AIPAC's pocket &/or in the Epstien files
MoonyT
lol my dad who just came back from spending a month and a half disconnected in the desert was asking about and mentioning this. him bringing up politics at all is basically like an average person screaming "wtf is going on?!!". hes all like wait Kuwait is attacking us too? and i had to tell him it was an accident on our end.
philmoregraves
Make sure to let him know that somewhere between our joint attacks with israel 1 of us killed a bunch of school children, be it US or Israel. Also between the 2 of us we have killed over 1k civilians.
johnathanrossshoulddie
The 2nd amendment was created specifically to solve the problem of a government that does not represent the governed - whether it be corrupt courts, bribed officials, or merely the lunacy of endless war.
rubypilgrim
Become ungovernable.
Iblamemyparentstoo
This ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️
icantbelieveistillhavetoprotestthiscrap
Trumpism needs to be crushed at the ballot box for it to truly go away. The public needs to send an unambiguous signal to DC that fascism is a hard 'no' regardless of political affiliations. If Trump had lost by a landslide in 2020, Republicans would have abandoned him and HE WOULD HAVE GONE AWAY.
Anyone who tells you to protest vote is either a fascist or a useful idiot.
AtLeastImWearingUnderwear
Israel is all over the Epstein files too. Maxwell's father was embroiled in dodgy deals with them in the 80s
MyBigMouth
Can he just skip the Senate race and go straight to a Presidential run?
3006mv
Who and where is this?
Basically in a nutshell
pintgudge1975
Regime change in the United States now!
Beybeykukududu
Voting is how we got here!
RibbleTPibits
keppler38
Fuck, this track is a banger. This album. Just play this while you depose that wanker. Everyone in the world will be happier.
stevelepastis
Is it Boards of Canada?
keppler38
Radiohead
rocinanteismyhorse
It especially hits well in the first episode of the recent Jackal tv series
charlestwoods
…and everything will be… in it’s right place
ToSisPoS
“But Kamala didn’t come to my house personally and tuck me in and undo everything Trump did from 2016-2020 herself enough.”
friendsofsandwiches
I'm terrified they're gonna yoink the elections.
Trump said he wants to fully 'federalize' the elections, removing voting places, and making it VERY limited.
innagaddavidababy
I believe that if the midterms are not free and fair there will be a large increase in political violence targeting senior members of the administration.
SavageDrums
Red states will not elect a single democrat in 2026. Blue states will play fair and "lose" because of it.
friendsofsandwiches
yeah...no. That's not how things been playing out. Try again
Aetherblade
As a non-american I'm more afraid that people are lying to themselves again and there are more trump voters (still) around than we would like to believe. And even if the Democrats win, the US political and judicial systems are so thoroughly broken that I have very little hope for it to get any better - especially as it also benefits democrat politicians and they have never really fixed it in the past.
friendsofsandwiches
we saw how many Trumpers are out there. There's more non trumpers, we just gotta convince them to vote.
Many have realized their mistake, and we're slowly seeing corrections, but the midterms might be cooked before we get there.
StarscreamAndHutch
Remember all this shit?
QuartzPoker
Luckily he's all talk on that and can't actually do anything about it. No provision exists in the United States for halting or federalizing elections for any reason. Even during the Civil War, we still had midterms and a presidential election.
friendsofsandwiches
what about provisions on tarriffs without congress?
Or war?
Or entering homes illegally and arresting citizens, illegally and detaining them...
illegally?
QuartzPoker
All of that has been stopped by the courts or gets thrown out when it finally reaches the courts. That's why ICE is now trying to delay people's court cases as much as they can - because they lose every time when they do illegal shit.
ChiefRunningFridge
They wouldn't be ready for how upsetty spaghetti everyone would be. It's also 100s of small elections. They're run at the county level for this exact reason. Basically we haven't seen the military truly show their anger yet. This would rip off the kid gloves. Deference to the civilian government. So they say "Sir yes sir." while being REALLY pissed in private. It's critical that the populous see the military as loyal to their elected government.
ChiefRunningFridge
People fundamentally need to understand that the generals follow through with his retarded ideas because they are loyal to the Constitution and the people. We elected him and Congress seems to have given him these powers and be ok with it. Congress signals this by not stopping him. They are the military what war powers the President has isn't supposed to be their perview. Civilian government makes policy. Military says "Sir yes sir." because we elected the idiots. We choose the mils bosses.
friendsofsandwiches
even as Trumpy has used the constitution as his toilet paper?
nasukkin
I know that Imgur collectively decided that it was taboo to watch the SotU broadcast, but I did.
And guess what? One of Trump's major talking points was how they are going to federally require proof of citizenship at the polls and make mail-in ballots generally illegal.
So, that's their plan and they are not trying to hide it.
albaboss
They keep pushing the SAVE act as merely securing our elections but there’s so much more to it than that
ToSisPoS
So thank you again for the 90 million idiots who didn’t vote in the last election.
Don’t just down vote me - stand up and let us know who you are, heroes!
GenStrike
Biden sat down for tea with Trump and gave him the keys to the kingdom. If Democrats at all believed their own rhetoric about Republican fascism, that Republicans represent an existential threat, then that tea would have been poisoned. You would think they would put up SOME resistance. At the very least you would expect them to not participate.
If Democrats fail to inspire the electorate, then they need to take responsibility for that.
There are reasons why people don't trust the Democrats.
GenStrike
Reasons like Fetterman and Schumer.
ToSisPoS
Thank you, I have added your name to the list of shitheads that are not worth listening to. Anyone else?
friendsofsandwiches
add me. I have nothing worth while to say, and nothing good to post.
Mountons
Here's the problem. The Dems are complicit, enablers, barely anti fascist let alone actually progressive. But they're the only other option. Hold your nose... Or what? Serious question for both sides of this argument. Can we do better than this paradigm? How?
friendsofsandwiches
it would require changing the system from the ground up.
The PROBLEM would be...making sure billionares don't rig it from the get go.
Mountons
Well said.
DrewThe3DPrinterGuy
One of the platforms he ran on was, if you vote for me you'll never have to vote again. He said it out loud, in front of the world.
friendsofsandwiches
This is the problem. Sometimes Trump DOES tell the truth, but he does it in such odd ways, people blow it off as hyperbole.
MCNewYorkLives
And yet, many people thought THIS was the perfect election to "protest vote"
ButtscratchMcPherson
Some are accelerationists, some are anarchists, but most of those people are just idiots.
DragonThunderUndertaking
They are all convinced everyone else will burn and it will never affect them.
ButtscratchMcPherson
And that a perfect progressive utopia will result minutes later with them as the great leaders of the new society.
raitchison
Butbutbut some "leftist" on the Internet told me that both parties are totes the same, and we should teach the Dems a lesson by refusing to vote for them.
truthputer
Biden was completely beholden to Israel and sent them fourteen thousand 2,000lb bombs and bulldozers to enact their genocide. When Israel bombed another school, the administration said they confronted Israel but it later came out that was a lie and there was no pushback. Israel forced this Iran war and if Harris was in power then there’s nothing to suggest the Dems wouldn’t be doing exactly the same as trump: gaslighting and spinning hard to justify going to war.
TheRealScotchie
I've seen the "both sides" argument from republicans by far the most.
StellarJay77
I don't fucking care what the polls say, who is viable, who is not, or who anyone votes for for that matter, just fucking vote! Stop leaving the choice up to others who are motivated to vote. Voting is a serious responsibility and everyone should have been taking it seriously for generations already. VOTE!
LazerSpacePirate
scarabrae
And the guy in the video looks like one of those - Platner in Maine, counterpart to Fetterman in PA (same campaign team).
PithyCommentBelow
I thought Platner was a progressive?
scarabrae
Even to the extent that 'progressive' is a thing, Platner's being run by Fetterman's team (who also ran Gallego, apparently.)
csullivan
…so was Fetterman.
Daliena06
Leftist here who would just argue.. Please do not blindly vote because "Oh hey he's got a (D) by his name! Good enough!"
Like, fuck yes vote against the fascists in the generals. Not gonna question that But vote in the primaries, too. Vote for the *good* candidates, not just the ones who manage the absolute bare scraping the bottom of the barrel minimum of not being a neo-Nazi. Please, for the love of Satan, demand better from the people meant to represent you.
Zamiel77
Fellow leftist reporting in: you have to remember that Imgur is Liberal with Progressive tendencies at best. That said, there are plenty of dyed-in-the-wool Liberals on here that unironically think "Vote Blue No Matter Who" is good policy and are unwilling to criticism the Democratic establishment for their many failures. They are unable or unwilling to distinguish between "Both sides are bad" Centrist(re: Right) rhetoric and Leftists calling out the DNC for pushing terrible candidates.
Jarjarthejedi
How the fuck do you think voting for the less progressive candidate in an election is going to help anything? "Vote blue no matter who" was based on the VERY FUCKING REAL observation that one of the two major parties was LITERALLY running on taking away votes and killing people in the streets. "That's not sufficient justification for me to vote for someone slightly less progressive than I want" is the ultimate egotistical privileged shit. The reason people don't differentiate between centrist
Jarjarthejedi
bullshit and calling out Democrats for supposedly having terrible candidates is that every single fucking argument about why D candidate are bad from you guys always boils down to "they could be more progressive, so I'm gonna support the literal nazis". You don
Jarjarthejedi
't want to be treated like a "both sides bad" spongebob centrist? Stop acting like one. Vote for the progressive candidate in the primaries, and then VOTE FOR THE BEST CANDIDATE IN THE ELECTION REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY MEET YOUR STUPID PURITY TESTS. You literally helped get a nazi elected who is killing people around the world and you /still/ fucking think you did the right thing by not voting Harris? Fuck you.
Ircy
I feel it's important to distinguish between progressives running under the democrat flag and establishment democrats. The New York major might have a D near his name but it was obvious that the democrat establishment saw him as the enemy. Just because he and some other "democrats" are different doesn't mean that the party itself isn't garbage. If you want to change something you can't trust most democrats to do it but the people that want to do it are likely to be democrats.
Jarjarthejedi
How is it obvious that the democrat establishment saw him as the enemy? Justify that nonsense? Because what I saw what the democrat establishment run a ranked choice primary that gave him a better chance to win, then run him as their candidate with all but like 2 of the D's who have ever endorsed candidates for NY mayor endorse him, many before the primary vote. Explain to me exactly how you determined, through actions, that the D's hated Mamdani without using the sentence "somebody told me".
Jarjarthejedi
I saw article after article and commenter after commenter make this bullshit argument, always with the justification of "I found a Democrat who doesn't like him, which proves they all think he's the enemy and hate him!" Yet somehow there were no attempts to stop him being the Dem candidate, no endorsements of a non-D candidate by Democrats (with literally 1 exception), nothing to actual fight the supposed "enemy of the establishment" or prevent his victory. Ya'll brainwashed :(
raitchison
There are always outliers like Fetterman but even the most shitty corporatist establishment Democrat (e.g. Newsom or Pelosi) is still light years better than literal fascism.
StellarJay77
It doesn't fucking matter analysing it, just vote. People are gonna vote for who they are gonna vote for. Stop trying to game it all out and decide whether it's worth it or not, just do it. If everyone votes guess what happens? The majority wins.
Ircy
I think it does, because I feel a lot of people saw that Biden just left trump and maga continue as if nothing happened and it really demoralized them and made them feel like there's no point in voting. Give them enough people who just let maga get away with it and they won't just vote because they will feel at their core that it really doesn't matter.
StellarJay77
And that mentality is EXACTLY what has led to the Republucan take over the entire system. This ain't going to be even remotely close to being fixed in a single election cycle. Americans are too used to things just having an "instant fix" and when it doesn't happen they throw their hands up and give up. But ya, just sit on your fucking hands and pout about it some more, see how that continues to work for ya.
Ircy
There is a difference between not solving everything immediately and doing nothing and letting the fascists get away with their crap. You win wars by destroying the enemy's morale. Same with this stuff.