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WhatTheDormouseSaid
Your house is on fire. FD comes to put it out. Your house matters. Neighbor complains, "all houses matter." No shit, but this one's on fire.
mythology333
I used to say all lives matter. But that's because I'm a hippie and was thinking about animals and plants. Then I learned what it meant...
tarkus10
That about says it all... Register to VOTE: https://vote.org
rinnyshinnyshinnyshoebank11
Thank you for explaining this so well to my idiot friend, who up until a week ago was saying “...but all lives should matter...” but wont -1
rinnyshinnyshinnyshoebank11
Say that anymore.
ukalliq
Thank you. We all have idiot friends now and then.
ImHereToExplainTheJoke
Nice to see Imgur turn around on the movement. For years on this site it was a lot of ambivalence and/or open hate to BLM.
Jackeea
Of course All Lives Matter, that goes without saying! People seem to have forgotten that Black Lives Matter, that's why that's the chant.
theUFCfan
zenoshogun
LordNergal
Stolen!
allcattywampus
The problem was, the slogan was predicated on the assumption that you already understood the painfully obvious realities of life in the US.
Sheprador
The “all lives matter” folks DO understand it, they’re just willfully skewing the message so they don’t have to face their own racism
rowingrowingrowing
I can't tell if it is willful trolling, an actual blindness to racism, or the threat of their white privileged being extinguished.Maybe all?
CrazyLizardLady86
You have 2 kids. You love both equally, but one's been hurt & is crying. Do you pick up both at once, or just the hurt 1 so you can help em?
drunkwhenididthis
You have two kids. They both hurt themselves frequently. You only pick up one of those kids when they're hurt. That kid matters.
CrazyLizardLady86
Fair correction. I just meant it in a way most parents would operate since I'd hope most parents wouldn't let one kid be neglected
Thelrishlnquistion
amglasgow
The only people who get mad when you say "Black Lives Matter" are people who really think they don't.
Melonfish
The fact that this has to be explained shows why the BLM movement is needed so much.
AutumnalDreams
Except it is simply an apologist's view on the movement.
Muunk
Logic? That's a bold move. Let's see if it pays off.
truthisgood
Judging by many comments, logic isn't working. "SHOW ME THE STATS AGAIN" - people who cherry-pick / don't understand stats.
buzkilljoy
TXCommoner
This gif and the surprised baby gif are the 2 best gifs ever....fight me!
MrBEC
This Post is fucking TRENSENDANT
learnmore365
Man I love that gif
legitnasty
First time seeing it, and I agree with you haha
MetSoh
#BLAM Black Lives Also Matter
TheHorseShesElbowDeepIn
Better acronym, but still doesn't feel as clear as BLM too.
AFelineMassofEyes
It won't get confused with the Bureau of Land Management.
libaf
jesasterous
Ok. I have been an all lives matter guy for a bit. But this resonates with me. Thanks.
N0ticeablyFAT
I wish I could credit where I heard this recently: "Of course all lives matter. But all lives can't matter until black lives do."
RachaelDanger
I was there too when BLM first came out. I get it now.
Feralkyn
Yeah, the phrasing is just better with a "too" on the end.
Floorcake
Same. I probably took it as a personal accusation of not caring about black lives. Or some other emotional response.
halkailasdragonmaster
Black lives matter exists because all lives matter is not happening in the real world.
rowingrowingrowing
Thank you. Thank you. This thread depresses the shit out of me. I don't know if it is people blind to reality or willful trolls, but ugh.
halkailasdragonmaster
It’s likely ignorance and the fear that they’ll lose something in their lives if those of others matter more than they do now.
halkailasdragonmaster
Too few understand that BLM and others should bring equality by lifting underprivileged people up instead of putting others down.
rowingrowingrowing
I think you're right. I wish white people, white men in particular, could understand equality as a positive thing, instead of a threat.
Imalwaysready
All lives matter ONLY to the degree to which the least of lives matter. If you truly believe "ALL" lives matter, you start at the bottom, >
Imalwaysready
with those people who's lives are being treated as the least valuable or most disposable, and you lift them up. All lives will only matter >
Imalwaysready
once black lives TRULY matter. Then we go to who's hurting next and lift them up too, and so on. Until black lives matter, all lives do not.
L33T4RCHY
optimistic but won't work, all need to be supported properly or claims of favouritism leads to racial divide. Happens in Canada often.
Dracology
I mean if you wanna start at the bottom it aint Black lives. Bottom is Native Americans.
fraktlzzz
Everyone is in danger. Blm is a good cause, but as long as things stay about race, it will always be used against us and we'll never fix...
fraktlzzz
...The biggest picture.
Joomuk
Yes finally. That’s what BLM been saying all these times. It’s “black lives matter “ because black lives are in danger.
DrSeaSaw
Is this a point that has to be made though? Surely when I say all lives matter I mean I have love and respect for everyone from all walks
ArchangelMichael18
All fine, but attacking and assaulting someone for saying all lives matter is, well, not conducive in gaining support
JustThisOnePictureOfABadlyPhotoshoppedMichaelCera
Napear was fired for saying "all lives matter" https://nypost.com/2020/06/02/nba-announcer-grant-napear-fired-over-all-live-matter-comment/
RonarOfTheRebellion
If you went to a charity for research in prostate cancer shouting "Hey, all cancers matter" you'd be a complete asshole, wouldn't you?
tflorio19500
Yea I can see that. It’s like some people hear BLM, and respond we all matter too, and BLM claims you don’t get it and now u r confused. 1/2
tflorio19500
We need a sit down. Too many people assuming too many people should understand. How can we be right if everybody’s wrong?
aleister94
That's not what anyones getting attacked for
tflorio19500
Omg. It’s a fucking metaphor.
Bobeez
Problem is, All Lives Matter is often a dog whistle, it’s “safe” language to express that you don’t think black people face discrimination.
DeathReaper7291
Why do you people love that term so much? Its used for what feels like anything that isnt part of your agenda.
Bobeez
I mean, I do genuinely believe some who say that are subtly denying the idea that black people are treated unfairly. Not really an “agenda.”
rowingrowingrowing
Thank you.
Acidmonk
This Stupid dog whistle crap is bull$hit Anyone with a brain can search the hundreds of video's people being attacked for saying it.
tflorio19500
You see I never saw that. What I heard was “Hay! Look at us, Black Lives. We matter too. And the poor white people get admonished 2/3
tflorio19500
Because they try to understand which drives them further from the BLM cause. Many say fuck it sit back and say, “glad it’s not me. “ 3/4
tflorio19500
This time around, people from other races (whites as well) are joining ranks. Don’t turn your allies away by making the innocent feel guilt.
throwawayaccount321
If you care for 100 sheep and 1 is in danger, it’s the 1 you need to help. Not the 99
L33T4RCHY
Not true, herding is difficult. You usually rely on a heard dog for support or the rest of the heard will panic with more problems.
Acidmonk
You don't separate the herd into 4 different groups for the sake of diversity. It's kept in one big group, were stronger together.
TheProfessionalOne
Relevant: Kings Announcer Grant Napear Loses Job After 'All Lives Matter' Tweet.
bigboneded
If you don't like that, you don't like NBA Basketball.
Sheprador
Good
Rayfasa
Just explained this exact point yesterday for the hundredth time. Whatever it takes.
HaveYouEverEverFletLikeThis
And the dumb fucks still don't get it
NinjaPoopy
But then people make comments like "fucking white people" when it should say "fucking abusive police"
Rayfasa
Yeah it shouldn’t ever be white people. It should be police. That’s it. If it’s just white folk, then that’s a straight up crime. Different.
woodjoiner
Can we say "white lives matter"?
ninerninny
I never understood why white people had to feel guilty about being white. They didn't ask to be born white.
ninerninny
If you're a shitty person then feel bad about being a shitty person, but not about being white.
NinjaPoopy
You're right. It's ultimately just good people vs shitty people. Sucks that some people think all white people are the root of all evil.
NinjaPoopy
A lot of white people out there supporting and getting beat up by the cops too, a lot of us just trying to have your back.
Listeningtokpop
Finally had a friend see how fucking stupid she sounded when she said “all lives matter”. Fortunately now on fb she’s always believed that
Listeningtokpop
all along and everyone else who thinks like she did up til yesterday is a moron... baby steps
MrTay
The counter point is all lives are in danger. The data and these protest prove that. The all lives matter counter is stupid though. It 1/
HellfireJags
Really, the All Lives Matter argument shouldn't be used as a counter, but as a support showing that everyone should be getting involved.
MrTay
Is used as an attack to delegitimize and the complaint is completely legitimate. It is unfortunate though because some use the racial 2/
MrTay
Aspect to exclude and deny on both sides. I have had my entire life destroyed by bad policing. This is the most important issue to me. 3/
MrTay
Yet there’s very little room for my experience or voice. This is an issue that extends beyond race (although a major factor) and until we 4/
MrTay
Realize that we are not going to get effective change. We will continue this circle. The police union will make sure of that.
TrappedShadows
Everyone is important, but you dont send a firetruck to the non burning houses. You send them to put out the fires where they are, and you >
OperatorCypher
Instead of people throwing one liners at each other , maybe a conversation needs to be had to explain what it means.
TrappedShadows
I completely agree, however, there is only so much we can do with 140 characters at a time. The "one liners" are a simplified version of >>
TrappedShadows
<< a much broader and complicated point that you're trying to get across. The one above is just something that's resonated with people.
TrappedShadows
< Support them doing so. Dont make it harder for those fires to be put out, because you wouldnt want the same if they were saving your house
PleasantPeasantPheasant
I mean watch this https://youtu.be/coryt8IZ-DE and say stupid shit like all lives matter again (I'm white)
RufusTheNakedMoleRat
The way I've always taken "all lives matter" is that people are trying to take the race out of things and just include them as people 1/2
RufusTheNakedMoleRat
and not as black people. Mr.Freeman said it well with Black History Month https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEg1buMdf30&feature=youtu.be&t=276
RufusTheNakedMoleRat
gotta watch on youtube apparently. starts at 4:32
randomperson32
Same
Ladyabbeyquinn
I did too and said to support your friends, family, etc. Got insulted, got told I was uneducated and that I was hateful for even sayin it.
sundaymondayhippyday
Being colourblind to the majority of black corpses isn’t helpful... this time see colour!
Silverforte
They're attacking everyone, not just blacks.
Listeningtokpop
That’s probably why people give a shit now, non black people might have rights violated- time to do something!
MyLastNameIsNotSure
Yes. It's an abuse of authority problem.
MajorArmStong
It's for the greater good.
TheNatanist
Yep. The phrase “Save the Whales” doesn’t mean fuck all other aquatic mammals and people get that, but bastards gotta bastard.
nilaismad
I love this analogy!
RelevantImgurian
What does logy mean?
TheNatanist
It’s an adjective that means dull and heavy in motion or thought.
Imalwaysready
"Fuck Cancer, man." "Oh, so you are OK with people getting heart disease, then?" "I didn't say that." "Didn't you? Hm?..."
ImPanickingButNotAtTheDisco
Agreed!
CyanideBreathMint
+1 for bastards gotta bastard.
LikeTotallyNotTheNSA
1 pump 1 cream
NotABadLookingNarcissist
Plus saving whales will save other aquatic lives, bring light to bad fishing practices, ocean pollution, start conservation projects etcetc.
imakeeper
Similarly, protecting black people from abuse will protect all people from abuse. It really is a perfect analogy!
asoftstrawberry
Great point!
AmArschdieRaeuber
Save the bees! Fuck wasps though.
dirtbirdy
If it said "Fuck dolphins, though.." I'd care.
josieexplosion
Second time I've seen this analogy
shwafflecopter
That's...actually. huh. How about that
shimmernshine
Screw the dolphins before they screw you.
Upvoter2000x
What if nobody is whale hunting, does "save the whales" mean anything?
DownvotesRmyBadgeUvadge
Off subject, but I always chuckle at, "EARTH FIRST! We can fuck up the other planets later."
gatharen
Well signs like this are important for people who are ignorant to the concept. I was one of those people who said all lives matter 1/2
gatharen
Up until my wife explained it to me much like this sign and I got it. Just took some explaining.
Isthe4thtimethecharm
But part of the reason for keeping "Save the Whales" is so generic so it will reach more people. So stop police brutality seems better to me
TheNatanist
BLM isn’t just about police brutality. It’s also about the various other causes of disproportionate black death.
Sr687124
I saw many celebs try to explain this same concept which you eloquently summed up with one post. +1 to u
airen
Nah fuck the other aquatic mammals except narwhals those things dont really exist
UsernameMatt
Brilliant analogy.
jasgstock
Well, except "save the whales" is a movement that exists specifically because of their special status; that they needed to be *more* ...
jasgstock
... protected than other species because they were nearly extinct. Pretty sure blacks are not nearly extinct, and shouldn't be granted...
jasgstock
... special status *above* others, like whales and such.
jasgstock
IMO this analogy does blacks a disservice, in that it presumes white power over blacks, in the way that humans have power over whales.
IDownvoteUnsaucedPosts
Yeah that's exactly the issue people are fighting against??
TheNatanist
It does not. Rather it is an acknowledgement of the faulty idea that because blm doesn’t say “too” or “as well” it is racist/wrong.
iShouldBeWorking42
DownvotesRmyBadgeUvadge
"Nuke the Gay Baby Whales for Jesus!"
AisforApple
Safebox36
It doesn't? Then why am I hunting hammerheads?
Bukkakeyes
Because they're not mammals?
TheNatanist
For the Hammers. Duh.
OrdinarilyBob
Nailed it!
imadethisaccounttotellyouthis
But fuck those giant sunfish guys. They're giant useless armor plated blobs roaming the ocean wherever the tide pushes them.
zeo868
I saw one once. Massive idiots is what they are.
bobtheaxolotl
Ocean sunfish are fucking awesome, do not just drift where currents push them, and also you smell.
DankVoodoo
Got it. Butt fuck giant sunfish.
TheNatanist
Floorcake
Instructions crystal clear...
investigatethreeeleven
Not that I agree with it, but the difference is that people say all lives matter in response because they feel that black lives matter 1/2
investigatethreeeleven
Insinuates that they don’t think/know that already. I don’t agree but I see the thought pattern
FartrellCluggins
I've always said the biggest error the BLM movement made was not including "Too" at the end. BLM Too
ShaunDreclin
I misunderstood it at first. I thought "OBVIOUSLY black lives matter, this movement must be implying more than that" but it was literal.
ShaunDreclin
In general, BLM has had a massive messaging problem from the start. Hard to boil a complex history of systemic racism down into a hashtag.
WaveMotionGum
Eh, people implying an 'Only' think there needs to be an explicit 'Too'.
michagoose
People don’t understand because they don’t want to understand.
allcattywampus
yeah they really alienated everyone who failed reading conprehension
StarscreamAndHutch
There was a couple long posts about this yesterday. Hadn’t thought about it before, but it is the correct perspective.
BenSnow97
BLM Too: Electric Boogaloo
RideTheStimutacs
Too late, the racists already took that one. Look up the Boogaloo Luau thing with Hawaiian shirts: It's white people who WANT Civil War 2.
Judsom
Holy shit man
flapperfemmefatale
I really disagree. You either agree that black lives matter, or you don't. The statement stands on its own.
whydidyougooglethat
Thats the thing, if you dont tell what you mean people will think what you say. You MUST say all you meant, not just think about it assuming
whydidyougooglethat
All know it
Grimvarr
No, 'Black Lives Matter' is perfect. Words like 'too' or 'also' weaken the statement. It's a slogan, not a manifesto.
RootMeanSqr
If you need that added to help you understand, then do so. Most of us don't though.
evilpsych
Exactly.
PunchyFromCleveland
I agree. As much as it sucks, the initial BLM movement awhile ago seemed to create more segregation between the races.
mjulnozhk
Dude, yes!
katratzii
Skeptics look up behavioral design. Trick the ignorant into compassion. Harder for casual racists to explicitly justify saying "No they dont
LordNergal
No. The biggest error was allowing the biggest sites and pages devoted to BLM to be run by Russian polititrolls and a troll from Australia.
Bobeez
Well the democrats tried to investigate that and the republicans blocked them every step of the way. Still do.
zeroofshadow
because the "too" makes it sound like an afterthought, you should never be an afterthought, black lives matter should just be a true remark.
RideTheStimutacs
The ALM people still would've co-opted it. "All Lives Matter Equally! You want special treatment!" Racists gonna racist.
Bobeez
Honestly, if they did, people would find another way to be offended, because at the end of the day, they are bigots.
Winnebagoman
i don't have any better ideas but someone better at that stuff should have come up with a better name. blm automatically makes alot of-
Winnebagoman
people think they're saying only black lives matter
Winnebagoman
apparently
amalgarhythm
I think the problem is that for some reason (racism) people don't agree black live matter at all. Hence the full stop and hence no qualifier
DeathReaper7291
There is a group called "All Lives Matter" that is heavily criticised as racist by many people. Why would the other side not think BLM isnt?
amalgarhythm
But I'm just a black guy and that's my take
Residentsmartass
Personally, I've looked at the stats and white people are more likely to get shot by cops. That having been said, after seeing some things
Residentsmartass
The past few days. I dont think we have a racist cop issue across America. I think we have a cop problem.
minkfarm
I heard the thing interview with oblasio(?), He literally gave cops an ok to drive over people if they are "afraid"
SpaceWarrior3000
I thought it was more white ppl to get shot as in general, but more black ppl as per capita? Even though there are less black ppl, they are>
SpaceWarrior3000
>disproportionately more likely to get shot?
Dark0001
I agree with you - the "too" takes away from the forcefulness of the message. TBH people who argue it will argue it no matter what
Dracology
This guy gets it.
doomedlord656
I mean I never had an issue with the name so much as the fact that it ignores much of the situation. I don't argue that blacks lives dont
doomedlord656
matter, they do, equally with white peoples lives. Its just if you look at the numbers from 2016 say, 26.9% of arrested people were black
doomedlord656
and 25% of people killed by police were black... I think police have an issue with killing in general. I actually agree with all the changes
FartrellCluggins
I agree. But including "too" would've stopped or at least curved so many counter arguments by those same people. Also from a black guy ;)
mjulnozhk
Coming from someone who doesn’t appreciate the rhetoric and arguments and the name— I agree! There are better ways to sway opinions!
whyexactly
Potentially, but most of those people would just find someone else to focus on. Racism, uh, finds a way.
amalgarhythm
True and hey ! I knew there had to be at least a few other black people on here lol
wishiewashy11
It was implied, I don't think people realized how misunderstood it would become.
DocWino
Whites were definitely an afterthought. BLM started out as racist as any white cop.
GayCanadianJew
There was a coordinated method to intentionally twist the message. It wasn’t an accident.
shimmernshine
The racist and sexist leadership of some of the early movement didn't help. the 'organized' BLM Toronto was a disaster.
Dracology
also some of the appropriating of tradgedy. Pulse gets shot up and BLM just takes over a memorial event.
Steffn
Do they even have a true leadership and organization?
shimmernshine
No. It's stronger as a philosophy and idea. When you try to turn it into an organization you end up with glory hogs.
libaf
BLMT, they could have Subway on board with that.
TheTeenageMutantNinjaTurtles
Or just BLT, Black Lives Too.
Counterfit
Advocate for BLT while eating BLTs
AllysiaAiua
Bacon lettuce mustard tomato
Mityguy
Mmmm bacon ...
Counterfit
Mayo
AdmJota
Mutton.
shimmernshine
https://imgur.com/OHtb5Gl
minkfarm
Yuck, mustard is disgusting, ruining everything it touches
Counterfit
Yellow mustard is garbage (aside from on Cuban sandwiches). Spicy brown is perfect for kielbasa
NachoPete
Why don't you just be wrong over there. No, farther than that please.
AdmJota
Try spicy brown mustard instead. It's amazing how completely different it is.
RodinMaths
or Black Lives Also Matter. BLAM !
PyroAvok
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-24757bc9b9ea6e6aa18f6a4f01bd1b20
InTheDistanceAPlaintiveEnglishHorn
Don't "also" and "too" mean slightly different things?
Dracology
actually that's even better yeah.
wiltsjunk
Or... "In Addition, Black Lives Matter... As Well."
DrKriegersClone
Oof. No. Chant that at a rally, and some cop will interpret it as a shooting noise, say that's a threat, and "fear for his safety".
NotTheMamaNotTheMama
Lolol you’re joking but it definitely would happen
notabotguyspleaseacceptmeeeee
Blam is a major missed marketing opportunity. But we're here now. BLM.
Banana4Scale86
It reminds me of the marketing guru who decided on “Killer Whales” instead of “Sea Pandas”. Sigh.
NachoPete
And BLM gets confused with the Federal Bureau of Land Management which is a whole other set of problems.
GrumpyOldMillennial
Clive Bundy would like to know your location....
BelarusianPotatoFarmer
Same with white privilege. If we would've called in racial inequality these white Chads and Karens would have one less thing to argue.
MaterNyx
I'm so tempted wo write "privileged matter too" at this point ^^ .... BLM too!
BrofessorDumbleBro
The privilege argument comes from the problem of grouping. It’s because if you are of -insert group- it is impossible to experience 1/?
BrofessorDumbleBro
The same things of -insert groups- and logically that is not how things work, but you’ve been grouped so your personal experiences no 2/?
BrofessorDumbleBro
Longer matter. You have privilege because it’s automatically been decided by -insert group- that -insert group- is privileged by default.3/3
LordNergal
When the real problem is that -insert economic status of Group A- is oppressing both -insert Group B- and -insert lower economic status of 1
PuzzledCompletely
That's exactly it though. Being aware of the defaults, especially those that benefit you.
BoopDaSnoots
Technically, since it's Ameraca then any life that is non-white is in danger. But somehow black people keep getting the worst. Not sarcasm.
DeathReaper7291
It could be correlated to black people committing crimes higher than any other race. Hispanics are relatively safe, and have low crime rates
BoopDaSnoots
I dunno man, maybe because the poor communities having more black people than other, thus more turn to crime
AutumnalDreams
That is incredibly wrong.
newdoug2017
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-myth-of-systemic-police-racism-11591119883
rhc54
https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/
myr14d
Somehow = certain populations are *still* resentful that they lost the civil war and can't own slaves anymore.
orangeyougladitsnotbanana
If you think there aren't racist in the North you're sadly mistaken. They are just better at hiding it. And btw the North didn't mind all 1/
cheesedogs
Wisconsinite here. Plenty of racist idiots in these parts.
orangeyougladitsnotbanana
That cheap cotton for their textile factories either. \2
myr14d
And sure, the north certainly hasn't escaped racial bias, but ultimately, for the south - it's *personal*.
orangeyougladitsnotbanana
I think you've been watching too much t.v. It's not like southerners sit around at social gatherings bringing it up like...if only we had 1/
orangeyougladitsnotbanana
Won the war...or really think slavery should be brought back. Most of us could give a fuck about shit that happened 6.4 mothers ago. \2
myr14d
Look, there's only a certain level of detail I can go into in the characters allotted to me by Imgur.
myr14d
ultimately, racism in the US stems from the perception and impetus imparted by slavery, and collective national guilt that manifests (1/2)
myr14d
as either denial, or the delusion that somehow the black population 'deserves it' due to being inferior. (2/2)
New4u2c
Also, if people think there aren't racists in every race...then they are hopelessly blind to reality.
HashtagDadJokes
Why when this BLM first came together, did no one post this explanation so that my dumb ass could understand the movement?
Helpusobi11
Because BLM doesn't give a crap.
libaf
Well it's not too late :P
Dark0001
Its never too late to learn. Keep in mind that there are a lot of angry people, and many don't want to take the time to educate/explain
Dark0001
We'd probably be in a slightly less bad situation if there were more who were willing to teach and more will to be taught
StephenDaniels
Colin Kapernick decided that just sitting there was too provocative so he started taking a knee, it was still not good enough by far.
HootSloot
Seems kind of obvious to some of us. Shit, Glenn Beck explained it well.
OrdinarilyBob
AutumnalDreams
Because this is an apologist's view on the whole situation.
GayCanadianJew
WE DID. WE SCREAMED IT FROM THE ROOFTOPS AND NOBODY LISTENED!!!
SrMordred
They did, but they were obscured by people crying All Lives Matter in bad faith to minimize the message.
StonesOnTheHill
I'd guess because from the inside, it seemed obvious.
Lucky246
No, from the inside they couldn't agree. More people would support it if it wasn't defined.
NotTheMamaNotTheMama
It so obvious I honestly can’t comprehend how someone doesn’t
comehomefransbrauder
Same. I remember having many wtf moments about that.
AoKToday
They did.
allcattywampus
It really wasn't hard to understand, unless you wanted not to
Floorcake
That's the thing. Many people just don't want to listen.
jlr1555
People deliberately distort the meaning to invalidate it. This is not a misunderstanding.
lilgypsy
This explanation is pretty obviously what was meant, but the movement sensationalizes the issue beyond the actual scope of the problem.
lilgypsy
The vast majority of police shootings are not police brutality. And the number of Blacks unjustly killed by police are comparable to the
lilgypsy
unjust killings of other races. There absolutely are racist officers, and they should be dealt with, but the overall issue is in corruption,
lilgypsy
not racism, though both compound each other. We need to identify corrupt individuals and have them brought to justice.
rowingrowingrowing
Racism is corruption. Why make the distinction? And if white people are so upset about unjustified killings, where are their protests?
WaveMotionGum
I think they didn't imagine that so many people would interpret it as "Black Lives Matter Only" when they meant "Black Lives Matter Too"
Itsonporpoise
Ppl interpret things the way they want, regardless of logic. “i’M eNtItLeD tO mY oPiNiOn...” no reasonable ppl they were saying “only”.
Lucky246
Depends on the person saying it but I only agree with the BLM2
LordNergal
When the "only" should have been an obvious conclusion; it was to a lot of people, including even some other nations. But I've noticed 1/
katratzii
Cognitive psychologist here: You're 100% right. Be as *explicit* and succinct as possible. It's the same logic as using /s for sarcasm.
WaveMotionGum
Obvious why?
LordNergal
By the point BLM was founded, there had been decades of people accusing feminism of being women-only in focus just due to the name. It 1/
LordNergal
doesn't take a lot of thought to realize a name like "Black Lives Matter" would have people automatically appending "Only" to the end. 2/2
LordNergal
that humanity struggles massively with forethought as a species, which is why we struggle to solve long-term problems. 2/2
Schreibicus
Because it's not true? Judging by the fact of their reaction to "All lives matter" messages.
rowingrowingrowing
The response I think you're alluding to is because 1. "All Lives Matter" immediately negates their voice and message 1/2
Binerexis
The problem is that the militant few who don't actually listen when people say "all lives matter" when they are AGREEING with BLM.
rowingrowingrowing
If agreeing that Black lives matter, why is it so hard to acknowledge that, yes, Black lives matter? 400 yrs of history says otherwise.
Binerexis
Black lives matter. White lives matter. Brown lives matter. All variations of skin colour lives matter. Your life matters. My life matters.
Binerexis
I'm a fucking Buddhist. Every life matters. I'm not going to stop saying or believing that because someone on twitter needed to get outraged
rowingrowingrowing
Fucking Buddhist, huh?
rowingrowingrowing
2/2 and 2. It's often shouted by people who, let's be frank, don't give a shit about black people being murdered by police.
Schreibicus
and 2. Really? Well, classic tyrannical left - label your opponent and their voices don't matter no more.
flapperfemmefatale
All Lives Matter just comes across as "I'm not supporting you unless I can be included" and it's ignorant. I'm white, I don't need the 1
Schreibicus
1. So "voices" of those who believe that all lives matter don't deserve to be heard? Classic tyrannical left.
rowingrowingrowing
That's reductive and argumentative for arguments sake. Again, saying 'Black Lives Matter" doesn't *negate* that all lives matter.
rowingrowingrowing
And you know what, I am a-fucking ok with being called tyrannical left because after living through Reagan, bush I, Bush II, and this 1/2
minkfarm
More white people are killed by cops than black, where's the riots for the white people?
yousaidanyonebuteveryonestaken
I’m curious what the statistics are of cops killed by various races?
flapperfemmefatale
Not per capita, last I checked