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christopherwalkenslegs
Yes =)
BaconFuzz
YES!
Chryos
Yes. Not a difficult concept.
JMPerez920
I mean sure why not
ExTechOp
In Finland, Prostitution (the exchange of sex for money) is legal, but organized activities such as brothels and pimping are illegal.
aloharamada
Finland is full of unlicensed "Massage Parlors", staffed almost entirely by Asian women, I doubt many of them actually want to work there.
socksynurse
Yes it should, it should be highly regulated with STI test required and ect....
milliedollar
As a feminist... yes.
andaction
We just need more guns. That will fix everything. Oh and more laws. But not gun laws. Those don't work.
Cartoones
Yes
IRideThisMotherfuckingBeatLikeATraktor
Yes. That goes for male prostitues as well. Everyone deserves protection and free will, regardless of gender.
fortuneandblame
Both prostitution and Abortions are legal in NZ #winning
CrunchyLookingLeaf
Brothels are legal in most of AUS, but street work is not.
tooomanysteves
And that's how is should be. The USA is fucked up.
Heartomaton
Uh, yeah? Jesus, you're supposed to ask insightful, thought provoking questions, Philosoraptor, not easily answered shitty ones.
KentuckyFriedChildren
lolol
IFuckingHateStupidPeople
Yes, because actually regulating that could make it safer for all parties involved
DarkWingDerpy
Well I mean, yeah pretty much.
iwantmymoneyback
Yes.. and yes. Next slide..
BilboSwaggins420
Yes and yes. As a female this is absolutely ok with me.
LetumComplexo
Yes, and those two are typically argued by the same side. Liberals *tend* to argue for sex workers rights, conservative against.
firax8
Pimps are the problem, prostitutes are not.
ZoidbergIsGreat
And violent Johns.
gonzaletude
But is pimping easy?
kaovalin
Yea, how am I supposed to murder for fun when I'm out of town? Such a bother.
Vaanhalen
Always blaming men
BronzeLeaguePro
Well, a unionized sex worker with a manager might make more money that way. Also someone to protect against violent customers...
warmlikes
Yes yes THE PATRIARCHY
Anenome
Pimps exist mainly because prostitution is illegal.
RHFiesling
Cartells are the Problem, not the Drugs
HeinrichHiTheSSGuy
Here in Austria Prostitutes are listed as normal workers. They rent a house together and have no boss/pimp. Pay taxes, get advanced healthc.
HelloMax
What's the population? I only ask because the reason it works could be to the small numbers. When you scale something 10x a lot changes.
HeinrichHiTheSSGuy
7000 prostitutes in Austria. We are 8. Million people. But how many men are "using" a prostitute? Idk
WhatDoesTheFoxEh
Unions. Pimp services rated by glassdoor ;)
scheherezade
Duh.
WetterThanAnOtterInAWashingMachine
I think that selling sex is legal in sweden but not buying it
imposingelephant
Yea as long as health standards are in place.
Grimmelda
Ues. In fact, legalizing prostitution is safer for the men and women employed by it.
manhands
And drugs, because we should all have the right to decide what we do with our body. Regulate. Tax. Legalize.
alwaysL8
Welcome to the Libertarian party?
Zombraina
I dunno, that's a pretty liberal standing too.
Camelslayer
I'm in favor of drugs so long as it doesn't harm others. Some can and will make even the most chill people psychotically violent.
manhands
Because if there is a demand (and history proves there will ALWAYS be a demand), there will be a supply. Illegally or legally.
pyrrhlis
It's how capitalism works. Also why I'm against gun control.
LimitDoesNotExist
Euthanasia too.
AnneFranklyMyDearIDontGiveADamn
I'd prefer decriminalization of use instead of legalization.
Tanwolf
With legalization, you could regulate the making of them better. Meth is bad, homemade meth can be worse for example.
AnneFranklyMyDearIDontGiveADamn
Sure, but making better meth with regulations will be more expensive. Buying legal meth may be cost prohibitive for many users.
AnneFranklyMyDearIDontGiveADamn
And beyond that I still think legalization will exacerbate the public health issue of drug use and addiction.
BodiazRising
Prostitution is legal. As long as you film it.
SpoilFlunk
I bet you want to see that sextape!!
KentuckyFriedChildren
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Cere4l
or if you are in one of the many countries that allow it
chase7436
That's what I never got. Wanna get away with it, when you go to pick one up, just take a camera and ask them to make a movie.
RisingSol
One of the caveats to this (to my knowledge) is that the people paying the actress/es cannot be participants.
lonerinthecorner
Filming it keeps a record/evidence of the act, while most prostitution is lacking regulations which it needs.
SpoilFlunk
I bet you want to see that sextape!!
somanywonders987
Before anyone actually tries this, you need a lot of licensing before you can film and distribute pornography.
StuntManPat
Do I? What's stopping me from filming am excursion with a lady of the evening and uploading it to pornhub as an amateur video?
stickemwiththepointyend
Yes. Legal and regulated like anything else.
muhvitus
And above all, tax!
ZombieJonSnow
Companion style.
UniSoul
My first thought. A John is an asshole? He gets his record noted and doesn't get to partake anymore, and the companions stay safe.
Beautifulabella
We need decriminalization not legalized. Huge difference
stickemwiththepointyend
Not in my opinion.
Beautifulabella
Well as a sex worker who understands the difference. You should research it. One come with regulations one comes with criminal laws.
muhvitus
And above all, tax!
Beautifulabella
The law already makes sex workers pay tax.
muhvitus
Yeah but its almost impossible to enforce when it is not regulated. And it is still crime in many places so not taxed in those places.
Beautifulabella
Yes it is taxed in those places.
muhvitus
How do you tax crime? Do they tax bank robberies as well?
TemetNosce000
Yes! Use the Nevada model
samray03
I've heard some bad things about the Nevada model from people who used to be a prostitute :/
AnalSexInTheWoodsDontMakeBabies
By this logic, meth could be legal
CouldHaveBeenHitler
The way it works now sure ain't doing anybody any favours.
rollercostarican
sex is legal, only selling sex is illegal, makes no sense. If meth was legal to do recreationally he should be legal to sell as well
Throrf
And it should be.
stickemwiththepointyend
Yes, I totally meant for things like that to be included.
UraniusCrack
in what way is prostitution similar to meth?
AnalSexInTheWoodsDontMakeBabies
Was there any implication that it was?
DoesYourMomStillHangOutAtDocksideBars
Can someone explain why placing a tax a woman's body seems like an appropriate thing to do?
DoesYourMomStillHangOutAtDocksideBars
On a*
stickemwiththepointyend
1) Prostitution is not only for women. 2) I want it legal and regulated so that individuals in that line of work are protected, and seen >
stickemwiththepointyend
As employees like anyone else. I said nothing about taxes, except as anyone pays if they work in any other career path.
DoesYourMomStillHangOutAtDocksideBars
Good point. anyone's body being taxed then. you specifically didn't mention tax (others more so) I'm not arguing against
DoesYourMomStillHangOutAtDocksideBars
Legalization/decriminalization for the sake of health and safety. Just if we taxed it, wouldn't the government become our pimp in a sense?
Nobody7713
Not taxing the body. Taxing the income, just like you'd tax any income.
exlurker42
YES FOR FUCK'S SAKE
NotTodayNotYesterday
Important to note, though, that it will not stop trafficking as a result. All the more reason to volunteer to help victims.
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exlurker42
It took way longer than I expected to get a comment like this...
veryhungrycaterpillar
Basically my exact same reaction
TacoMunny
YASSSS TO THISSSS!
Ovaender
Ops. 6h too late.
SpecialContainmentProcedures
No! Stop giving people the tight choose things. We all should hand over all decisions to the computers...
exlurker42
You have to admit it would be better than some current world leaders.
MrThomasShelby
I know every other god damn week I see this. Like seriously fuck off.
Ryebread91
I always hear about posts like this being seen constantly but its been over 6th months and I usually just browse FP what gives?
MrThomasShelby
Maybe you have a life. I don't. So I see it all the time. Oh and I'm an asshole.
Ryebread91
+1 for honesty
JustDontCare
Honestly, I think its meant to be an obvious yes.
ElSenorFluffybutt
why do peolple even ask this shit over and over again? there's nothing wrong with prostitution nor with abortion.
MrThomasShelby
reinder
Well of course it should be. I'm having difficulty imagining why someone would want to make it illegal. (assuming adult and not forced o.c.)
bemibet
People don't have top make it illegal, it's always been illegal in the United States.
reinder
But why? Wouldn't that violate the right to persuit happiness at the very least? (I'm from The Netherlands so not fully familiar with US law
Darkspire
Always bet on organized religion.
reinder
Even considering that, I still don't get it. I'm not aware of verses forbidding it, and there's plenty of incest and rape being okay'd
Darkspire
Religion is always weird about sex. So is American culture. It's why you see people getting shot up in movies all the time, but it's super
Darkspire
rare to see full body nudity.
ItsAlwaysDaDamnedGuvment
Yes but really I feel the need to legalize it is based on reducing sex slavery, which I think is at an all time high.
UncivilizedEngie
Countries with legalized prostitution have more sex trafficking. Source in next comment.
TomBombaChill
For fucks sake, every time this stupid meme gets posted, this is what I want to shout about!
andthedicestoppedrolling
upvoted for username. nice
TomBombaChill
Everyone goes on about it, but they underestimate the economics of legalizing it.
ItsAlwaysDaDamnedGuvment
Ty for the source but I gotta wonder if legalizing it made tracking more reliable also their is a slight difference in slavery and 1/2
ItsAlwaysDaDamnedGuvment
Trafficking I mean how do they define exploitation do not all business operations exploit their workers too many unanswered question
UncivilizedEngie
https://journalistsresource.org/studies/international/human-rights/legalized-prostitution-human-trafficking-inflows
palatinekatinka
Reading that, what surprised me was that the reason for the increase is an inability for legal sex workers to meet consumer demand.
palatinekatinka
"The scale effect of legalizing prostitution...outweighs the substitution effect, where legal sex workers are favored over illegal workers."
nlRmg
Yea, but there need to be ways to ensure its not forced. For both prostitution and abortion
maturecontent
you think if prostitution was legal, sex slavers/trafficers would register their victims and pay tax?
nlRmg
No, legalizing it also means regulating it.
maturecontent
you think if prostitution was legal, sex slavers/trafficers would register their victims and pay tax?
onefootout
Forced abortion? Im not aware of this as a thing that happens?
RaptaGzus
nlRmg
http://thefederalist.com/2015/09/18/how-many-women-are-pressured-into-abortions/ pro life exaggerates, pro choice minimizes it.
FishOnTheInternetz
We are 7 billion people across the whole word; it obviously does happen sometimes.
onefootout
It happens a whole lot less than a woman becoming pregnant from rape, however. It's a specious talking point.
FishOnTheInternetz
I am not saying it happens every second of the day, just, it "does" happen along all other bad things.
homicidalslayer
Yeah, it happens. Doctors colluding with spouses/parents to cover up incest/rape, women who change their mind after the procedure starts1/?
homicidalslayer
6/? There are a lot of bad doctors out there, that's why it's important for people to have access to a variety of options
homicidalslayer
2/? and their doctor was like "you're already strapped in," or cases where women didn't actually know an abortion was being performed.
homicidalslayer
4/? their consent, even if lucid. I write this as someone who is very pro-choice. *CHOICE* is a key aspect of my beliefs. Should be noted
homicidalslayer
5/? that in all cases I can find, these occurred at private practices, not organizations like Planned Parenthood or municipal clinics
homicidalslayer
3/? That last one usually applies to the mentally ill. Fun fact: in several states, the mentally ill can also still be sterilized without
JudgeMentalCat
Legalization of prostitution would go a long way towards shutting down abuse of sex workers. Currently, they can't report abusive johns
AppleFoster
Absolutely. Not to mention the state can place regulations requiring STD testing that could help many of these women who would be sex 1/2
AppleFoster
workers regardless of it's legal status. I think it's honestly a win/win either way. 2/2
JudgeMentalCat
Yeah. The porn industry has its dark side, no question, but legalizing it and exposing it to heavy regulation helps the artists.
JudgeMentalCat
Verymuch the same concepts. Honestly, the biggest problem in the porn industry are thieves like Pornhub.
JudgeMentalCat
because it involves confessing to a crime, so many rapists and abusers walk free. Like, recently California passed a bill that wrote an
JudgeMentalCat
exemption into the illegality of prostitution law for minors- meaning that they don't get put in jail for being trafficked. Which was a
JudgeMentalCat
massive problem, and what stopped many escaped victims from reporting their traffickers.
HolyCringeLordBatman
Holy fucking shit thank you, every moron was calling it "Legalized child prostitution in California".
TheDuuuude
Yes. And because it's the sensible thing to do if you care about harm reduction at all.
chawdaddy69
Utilitarian or Kantian ethical question: it's either never OK because it's evil, hence prostitution policy, or sometimes it's ok: abortion
SimZz
In Canada prostitution is legal, but it's illegal to pay for prostitutes.
LivnLern
I suppose it does prevent the girl from getting victimized by the system and reduces the demand slightly, but does little for deregulation
theluckyking
only problem is more than half of prostitution comes from sex trade victims being controlled by pimps,legalization=legal sex trafficking
rattlesnail
I convinced my conservative husband that prostitution should be legal. That was a fun convo.
Clovenhoof
Most important comment I've ever seen on here
sequential
Just upvoted from 2999 to 3000
IzM26
Here in australia prostitution is legal as long as it is done within the confines of a brothel. There is plenty of law around it and it. 1/2
IzM26
Is very safe as the brothels take plenty of measures to ensure the girls safety
amop
same goes for drugs
thanksingerman
actually, it has been proven by looking at other states (Nevada) and countries (like Germany) that legalizing prostitution actually 1/2
thanksingerman
increased sex trafficking rates in those places 2/2
SEGSan
Do you have a source on that? Sounds interesting.
thanksingerman
https://journalistsresource.org/studies/international/human-rights/legalized-prostitution-human-trafficking-inflows
UpVoteDragons
I like you.
SteveHarringtonBabysittingServices
This. I try and try to explain to people that NO ONE should be outside of the law. Harm reduction for the win.
slowbutstillfurious
Fuck yes!!!!!!!!!
snet328
Yes.
heresyheresy
Only utilitarianism has harm reduction as its highest priority, though. Other philosophies and most religions have other top priorities.
princessvaliant
Nevada has brothels, but street prostitution is illegal because it is much more difficult to regulate.
SparklingCockWaffle
Yes. George Carlin said it best... Fucking is legal. Selling shit is legal. Why isn't selling fucking legal?
lyikos
Selling yes, buying should remain illegal.
Aquagrunt
I've heard concerns about legalizations impact on human trafficking and if it would make it worse.
thefrayedendsofsanity
Go listen to Rebecca Bender talk about this. Prostitution legalization increases human sex trafficking.
Beautifulabella
Yes this is why sex workers call for decriminalize not legalize! Huge difference
asquiiiiiiisha
This is why you put provisions in laws that make it easier for the exploited to get help, instead of arresting them.
Penguinsruletheworld
This isn't thinking raptor this is just plain common sense.
allotherusernamestaken89
the intelligent post about pragmatic policy makes top comment?! What world am I living in?!!!
lockweasel
Because then the government can legally regulate the industry to protect the health and safety of both clients and proprietors.
WhatFuckingNameIsntTaken
Plus get a cut of the money
AlexD
Taxes, Licensee Fees, Inspection Fees, Government Paperwork, Fines, P&I on fines, Micro-mngmnt via gov regulation, EPA & OSHA also get a cut
Nomulus
Which is also why certain drugs should start being legal again.
WhatFuckingNameIsntTaken
Agreed, less cost policing and detaining and more money through taxes, plus legal pot and all.
trapinch
it's legal here in Hong Kong but the stipulation is that there can only be two of you in the room at the time, for obvious reassons.
AmaIthea
Well that kills that fantasy
trapinch
err . . . said my friend
CoBr2
So you can't pay for a threesome? lame
k1drue
Ikr! When you go to hong kong it's all about the gambling and threesomes. Lame its against the law. #FreeHongKong
TimoThreeOrFour
Is the obvious reason gayness??? Is gayness the reason?
trapinch
pimpin'.
minant
Or because they hate threesomes???
bypoop
People hate practical solutions in the US. Like having taxes pay for health care. Or legalizing drugs and prostitution.
3lit3c0rnb33f
Taxes paying for health care isn't practical. It's expensive and the government doesn't bargain hunt. It just gets lobbied
Beef410
But muh freedom.
11ama
Americans hate practical solutions because someone told them to hate them then forgot who so they figured it was themselves all along.
Surrenderyourkoolaid
So many more jobs...
AttackMyWeakSpotForMassiveDamage
It's actually legal in Nevada.
TenofSpades
Socialised healthcare is shit look at Canada
stsword
Oh you mean the healthcare that is superior to ours? Australia and Great Britain too. Ours being shit would be an improvement then.
TenofSpades
Yes cause it's much better to have no choice on which healthcare you want unless your rich, then it is to be more free with your own choices
PoultryInMotion
This. Add marijuana legalization and taxation in there and I wonder how our deficit will look...
ElbowDeepinaTinyOctopus
Weed would not put a huge dent in our deficit. It would help slightly, but I'd rather see a majority of those taxes go to help addicts.
SnookerSylph
I think itd be a local help rather than a national one. Counties having extra income to hopefully put toward things like education and roads
NEClamChowderAVPD
We have a weed store that offered some % of their profits to the school district and they turned it down because of where it came from.
BigNasty55
Still high af
PoultryInMotion
Is that a weed joke, mannnn?
BigNasty55
Little bitta both
CliffordJohnsonMiller
Prostitution does need regulation though. Like STI checks. Preferably monthly or something.
ThatTransformersDude
Like how Nevada does it.
dovebair
You could start with the rigorous regulations that are applied to "adult film' actors.
Denamic
Obviously. That's one of the main benefits from it being legal. Regulations.
xkr73
See, problem is, outright illegal means no regulation at all. Which is where problems start...
CliffordJohnsonMiller
Yeah. Exactly.
chewbaccacrotch
That's how it is in Australia
AllGoodNDaHood
Also by regulating, you cut out pimps who are often abusive and exploitative
11ama
And you can enforce a health code and mandate medical screening for both the prostitute and the john. Make people get a license for the sex
11ama
"Do you have a FUCKING license?" "Why yes, I got my FUCKING license last week!" "My FUCKING license expires soon so I should get on that."
pineapplepuppy
Ideally, weekly.
dovebair
Unfortunately, some diseases take longer than a week to develop. It would be smarter for John's to have to prove they were clean.
dovebair
Unfortunately, some diseases take longer than a week to develop. It would probably be smarter to have the John tested before access
dovebair
Unfortunately, some diseases take longer than a week to develop. It would be smarter for John's to have to prove they were clean.
dovebair
Oops posted to wrong comment :(
Beautifulabella
Soooooo the workers need to be safe for the unsafe clients? Or clients need common sense and workers should still take care of themselves
CliffordJohnsonMiller
I had 140 characters. Condoms are also mandatory where I live. Fucking asshole.
CliffordJohnsonMiller
I had 140 characters. Condoms are also mandatory where I live. Fucking asshole.
Beautifulabella
Are you calling me an actual sex worker with an opinion about my life an asshole? Or are you opening a serious dialogue about issues we face