Scientists finally confirm the Milky Way has a supermassive black hole

Nov 1, 2018 5:09 PM

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Image credit: ESO/Gravity Consortium/L. Calçad

Using the ESO’s sensitive GRAVITY instrument, researchers have confirmed that the enormous object at the heart of our galaxy is — as scientists have assumed for many years — a supermassive black hole.

Researchers used the European Southern Observatory’s sensitive GRAVITY instrument on the Very Large Telescope (VLT) to observe infrared radiation flares coming from the accretion disc around Sagittarius A* — the massive object at the center of our galaxy. Scientists think that most galaxies have a supermassive black hole at their center, but they’d never before had the data and observations to prove it.

To measure the effects of gravity near to a black hole, scientists needed to observe an object actually traveling close to it. They found their mark in a small star called S2 whose orbit takes it deep within Sagittarius A*’s gravity well every 16 years. As they watched, they saw three bright flares traveling around the black hole’s event horizon at about 30 percent of the speed of light — around 216 million miles per hour.

It’s exactly what Einstein’s theory of general relativity predicts would occur when a hot spot (like S2) passes close to a black hole weighing as much as 4 million suns, and the observation helps to confirm that it’s really there.

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shoulda went with telescopy mctelescopeface

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Well shit, no wonder aliens don’t wanna visit.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That math is just mind boggling.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I wonder if galaxies that have a black hole in the middle spin different ways on different sides of the universe.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Orientation of galaxies appears to be random. Tho that probably means we haven't discovered the actual mechanism yet

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Real props to Einstein tho....

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

7 years ago | Likes 32 Dislikes 0

No you fool! It is the warp! The Chaos gods are upon us! All life is lost!

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

too high and read it as "Has a supermassive asshole"

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

What does it want?

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Who are you?

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

In Elite: Dangerous, it's explorer tradition to travel to Sag A* and jettison a cargo pod of beer as a sacrifice to the Great Devourer.

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Calling S2 a small star is not quite right. It's 10 - 15 times the mass of the sun, so is more massive than 95% of the stars in the galaxy

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

@SlutAtNight :)

7 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 2

Einstein nails it again!

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

He was a pretty clever dude...

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The Expanse, the ring

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Wasn't that ALREADY proven ? Everything I've read on the subject seemed to assume Sagittarius A* status was a given...

7 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 2

Yes it was. In the sense that nothing else could have been that 4m solar mass object. But this is a jump in confirmed density. Good!

7 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 2

Right, I am sure we have even had pictures of it

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

It was pretty certain, but no direct proof before.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

In science nothing is ever truly proven. We can only talk about what has the best evidence for being true. This is just another step...

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

... towards improving that evidence. This is the key factor that separates science from religion.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Pshhh, I could have told them that. It wouldn't have been backed up by any factual evidence, but that's beside the point

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

science is fun

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Not if you're a witch. (just say'n) https://youtu.be/k2MhMsLn9B0 (Watch and be surprised)

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

MURPHHHHHH

7 years ago | Likes 31 Dislikes 0

Haha!!

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

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7 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

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7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Finally!!!

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

& that’s how aliens visit from tons of light years away, they just hop into their galaxy’s black hole.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Then they visit here and get in my black hole with probes.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I’m 101% certain we have known about this. We have observed the orbit of multiple stars around this object and the only answer was BH.

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

We "knew" about it yes, but have only just now been able to actually prove and confirm it.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

We can’t *know* much. We can only reduce the likelihood of it being a different explanation incrementally using different observations.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The consensus was it was way too massive and relatively small to not be a black hole. The orbits the stars have around it are absurd. Lol

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Oh, yeah, for sure. I just bristle a little bit when I hear people say scientists have proven something. It takes a lot to prove something

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

*Relative in terms of its mass

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Quick, someone tell Muse.

7 years ago | Likes 678 Dislikes 4

Black Holes and Revelations

7 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 1

Whose?

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Oooooooooooooooooohhaaaaaaaaaaaaa, you set my soul alight

7 years ago | Likes 113 Dislikes 1

Glaciers melting in the dead of night / and the superstars sucked into the super massive

7 years ago | Likes 33 Dislikes 1

Soundgarden!

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

First and only thing that comes to mind

7 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

I can picture them calling each other in the middle of the night, waking each other up.like those scenes from so many movies

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Fun fact: The Very Large Telescope is the actual official name of that telescope, once again proving that scientists suck at naming things.

7 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

Really, Google it.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Telescopy McTelescopface was available, such a shame...

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I dunno, Sea of Tranquility, Ocean of Storms, they've been pretty great at naming a lot of stuff regarding space.

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Why? It's from a time when 4 meter-diameter was the max. These are 4 scopes of 8m diameter.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Was anyone, with a modicum of knowledge on the subject, surprised?

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Know?.. perhaps not. But give a good guess that was as good a guess as evolution?.. sure. And therefore not be surprised.

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

We can’t know much. We can only reduce the likelihood of a different explanation incrementally by using different observations.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Surprised that Sgr-A is a black hole, no. Surprised that they were able to image hot gas just above the event horizon? Very much so.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I'll go along with that.

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

How far back in time are we observing this and how soon can we expect to get our solar system sucked in?

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

1: about 25000 years. 2: never

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Exactly, just like the Earth will never get sucked in to the sun, nor will the sun reach Sag A*

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Now, of course, the sun might decide to expand to swallow the earth, but that's another story altogether. :)

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I should visit there in elite dangerous

7 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

I haven't even been able to get into the Sol system yet

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I now have access to Shinrarta Dezra!

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Ya my VLG, Elite Dangerous has that too! (Very large game)

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's worth the trip CMDR.

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Can confirm... and onward to Beagle Point

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

O7

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

does anyone else think thats scary?

7 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 2

Just don't ponder that when you are outside the only thing between the top of your head and the edge of the universe is 62 miles of air.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's very far away and it's been there for longer than the Earth has existed. It's fine.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Not really, it's widely held that all spiral galaxies have them. Also it's like 30k ly away.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It has always been there, it will always be there. The true be-all end-all cosmic horrors that just so happen to share our universe.

7 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Not always. It will eventually evaporate away in 10^87 years. you know, give or take an hour or so.

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Also, the concept of space just got exponentially vast. My brain ran to 10 dimensions and back. All the fatalism.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I do...we're all going down a massive drain hole.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Actually it's not heavy enough for that. There are lots of other things that will kill us first like the sun going nova.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Before the sun turns nova, it will swell and burn all the planets including earth. Humans will experience it. Good book: Dalgren.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Super Black hole + human = game over. Yes, yes, I’m very glad that we’re on the edge of a black hole, this is bound to end well...

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

the odds of you tripping, falling, and somehow ending up on mars are astronomically greater than the earth touching that black hole.

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

There's nothing magical about a black hole, they follow they same laws of physics as everything else. Granted, they kinda push things to...

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

...the extreme, but still.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

You have blackholes closer to you right now. They form all the time in the atmosphere.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Isn’t a black holes formed from the collapse of a Star? If so I’m curious how our galaxy was made since it’s a supernova galaxies require to

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

form or are collapses and supernovas one in the same?

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Like an implosion resulting in an explosion or maybe the other way around

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It's almost like The Big Bang Theory might have some validation to it. (Not the show. The show is dumb.)

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Other way around. The Galaxy formed first, and a bunch of stellar mass black holes got together and formed the supermassive one.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Even if that’s true those black holes would have to be from the stars that greater the Galaxy since galaxies are greater from supernovas

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Created*

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Actually the first stars formed before the first galaxies. The first stars were pure hydrogen and huge monsters. They would have made

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

black holes when they go boom. Those black holes merged to form the supermassive ones. Tho I'm not sure if they predate galaxies.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Oh wait I understand your comment now, I think we are on the same page.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Can we talk about the name they gave the Very Large Telescope (VLT) for a second?...

7 years ago | Likes 354 Dislikes 5

Rather it be BFT imo

7 years ago | Likes 129 Dislikes 2

Big Friendly Telescope?

7 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

It’s not just telescopes, everything in astrophysics has simple names: black hole, big bang, red giant, etc.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

don't forget that the specific instrument involved is the General Relativity Analysis via VLT InTerferometrY. seriously. GRAVITY.

7 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Missed out on calling it GRAVVI. Mmmmmmm

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Most ppl complain about complicated scientific names. I think we can all appreciate simplistic scientific names.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I mean... Simple name leaves time for more sciencey stuffs

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

(XKCD 1294)

7 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Looks like a list of RPG items Astronomer Classes have to grind for in their quest to be the server's top dog.

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

then don't look up the radiotelescope names :P

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

VISTA: Visual and Infrared Survey Telescopic Array, ESO Chile.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It was named by Lemony Snicket

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yeah, physicists aren't really the most creative namers.

7 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 3

very creative namers

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Right now I'm working on the (TMT) Thirty Meter Telescope. It will be the biggest Telescope in the world.

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Not for long - I'm planning to start building a TOMT soon!

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

It's to go with the VLA (Very Large Array)

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

7 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Japan's Suburu telescope is my favorite because it's mirror was made in Pittsburgh. And I know what happened to it's donut hole.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Cheers bruv

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

If I were a billionaire, I would fund telescopes, but they would have to have names like “Absurdly Large Telescope,” “Improbably Large (1)

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Telescope,” and “Really, Really, Ridiculously Large Telescope.” I’d love to see those names in papers.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

You'd get alone well with the ESA.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You joke..but... TMT = Thirty Meter Telescope. LBT = Large Binocular Telescope. LMT = Large Millimeter Telescope. Guess what ELT = ??

7 years ago | Likes 57 Dislikes 1

Even Larger Telescope?

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

BAT = Big Ass Telescope

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

astronomers are funny with names. i fondly recall the MaCHO v WIMP debate.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Extra Lettuce and Tomato

7 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

And wait until he learns about the OWLT!

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Those bastards!

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Also VLA = very large array (of radio telescopes) and the Large Hadron Collider

7 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

As featured in Contact. But there isn't a canyon there; that's movie BS. Usually take the extra time to drive by it when driving through NM

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Extremely Large Telescope?

7 years ago | Likes 49 Dislikes 1

Ding! Now try: VLA

7 years ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 2

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7 years ago (deleted Mar 17, 2024 3:17 AM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Ok bonus round! The EELT?

7 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 1

Vagina, lettuce, avocado. A sandwich known as the millennial Tinder.

7 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

ok I'm a space scientist and I'm fucking stealing that millennial tinder bit.

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

That really stuck-out for me, too. What will they call the next bigger one they build? The Even Larger Telescope?

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

like probably?

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Extremely Large Telescope: https://www.eso.org/public/teles-instr/elt/

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Motherfucker! They did go for a name like that.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Yeah, but we really don't know how to continue after that. In radio they went for "square kilometer array", and NASA names after people.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's probably us dry Europeans that mainly have this issue ;-)

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0