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WhereTheresAWill
Mission fuckin accomplished, sir.
NavyBrat
My hero is Joffery
FrickasaurousRex
Yeah.. but /every/ hero?
nefariousskunk
Ok Martin you get my respect now, you are an inovative badass... but let's not kill Daenerys... please...
hSquared7
WHERE'S MY NEXT BOOK, GEORGE?!
literallymike
"Death is certain. The time is not." ~Jaqen H'Ghar
aguyuno
Fucking love him. Really hope Arya runs into him before he finishes whatever he's doing in the Citadel.
ThisUserbabeHasAlreadyBeenChosen
He looks like a sea captain from a kids' movie.
swishgifs
Its what makes Game of Thrones so readable/watchable. The magic of it is in the mortality of every character.
MrNewports
He reminds me of Hades from Clash of the Titans...becoming powerful in our sadness and depression
StamosatmyFuneral
So fucking true. The good guys do not always win. Novels are written with "Ultimate danger, ultimate escape!" mentality. Break the mold!
Namethief
love "now you know why your nerdfriends were depressed 13 years ago"
crazypicsandstuff
"The protagonist was going to do something inspiring, but he died from smallpox. The End."
orionqp
Man, this George R.R. Martin version of "Oregon Trail" fuckin' sucks.
aguyuno
LMAO.
TastefullyEvil
* you've achieved that you asshole*
JasonThorn
Don't like it? Don't buy it, don't watch it. Nobody's making you do it.
shortkitty
That's what Conan said in the segment. You know what they say about making assumptions...
Chionati
he was just putting the last picture right and added what conan really said.
katycatt
his books are so easy to get engulfed in because it is so realistic.When i read ASOIAF I feel like it's historically accurate
dcazcaz
People should read more...
brocado
busdriverdan
I think its always good to simply read a book and think for all i know the main character might not survive.
Berethian
GEROGE!
MrNewports
Translation...my books don't have heroes
Hrafnsmerki
Brienne, Jon Snow, Daenerys, Sandor Clegane...
AstrologyNerd
Just death.
woozle
Brienne.
Sayir
*Spoiler* *Spoiler* She ends up killing a few stark men while escorting you know who, so shes not really a hero *Spoiler* *Spoiler*
woozle
Don't you dare say anything about fair, faultless, beautiful, hot Brienne. Them's fightin' werds.
Partsx
Sure it has hero's. They just aren't invincible and CAN lose. George is sick of formulaic black and white story telling.
ihavenocluewatimdoing
agreed, usually a hero saves the day which is why he/she is the hero at the end. he just keeps you guessing on who's gonna make it out
Andrew87
George R. R. Martin: "Now you know why all your nerdy friends was depressed 13 years ago".
Randomcomma
His final twist will be having a heart attack before finishing the last book.
lifeofapie
That is honestly my biggest fear in life at the moment!
SpecialTrampDanaScullyFBI
I feel like GRRM jokes about killing off people for fun, but what he really does is make unpredictable and realistic fiction. It's one of
SpecialTrampDanaScullyFBI
the only series where the bad guys stay on top and bad things happen to good people. And I feel for him because he creates these characters
SpecialTrampDanaScullyFBI
and builds their lives and then there comes a point where he knows he's going to have to kill them in order for the plot to go a certain way
SpecialTrampDanaScullyFBI
and I think he jokes about it because I imagine it really hurts him to do that. But he does what needs to be done for the story.
TheBradHatter
You are spot on about this. I saw an interview he did at Google where he said the Red Wedding was the last chapter he wrote in...(1/2)
TheBradHatter
Storm of Swords because it was so hard for him to write. He knew it had to be done for the story, but it was so emotional he had to skip it
D3borian
Instead, I assume anyone can die any given moment.
SaintMaceToTheFace
Your not wrong
AlexanderCoe
Just like real life!
TheDullEffectsOfYourSuitcase
Except Arya. I think Martin promised his wife he wouldn't kill her.
AbelhaDeus
That's what he wants you to think!
Colloportus
yet
fuckthisimout
same here, but it sort of takes away any attachment you have on his characters
D3borian
Yeah..That.s my feeling as well. I have to start hatting characters so that they may survive.
sereri
Even GRRM
Feench
You go knock on some wood dammit! Right now!
YeOldeInternetTroll
Yep.
yourdrunkirishfriend
Don't joke about that!
FollowRafiki
can you imagine? if he dies and never finishes the serie?
Colloportus
Calm down there, Satan. He just told the producer(s) of Game of Thrones and his agent how everything ends.
FollowRafiki
Really? I didn't know. Thanks
FupaTrupa
Wish I could upvote this comment 10000x.
elten
pretty much marla singer's philosophy, save the part where she's upset that it did not happen yet
MrFats
But Conan is about fear for death or sociopolitical intrigue it's about a 9ft tall barbarian that kicks ass and fucks bitches.
thisismyusernamemyusernameisthisdealwithit
I think OP meant...ON CONAN...the show...or I'm stupid and I'm missing stuff..anyways I just upvoted you for the fuck of it...Remember me.
RazvanR
I think I'm quitting imgur and going to 4Chan. People here can't take a joke.
Mrginger128
I like this comment, Shame to the downvoters.
samesamebutdifferent
Yep.. my favourite character died in the first book. Oh well! I still read them all.
RedHeadFashion
Though fair play for sticking it out. I know people who quit at the end of the first series for that same reason. They be missin' out.
rcrav
That's such a butthurt reaction.
QueenJLS22
But Tyrion is still alive ... I don't understand this post ...
tangowolf
I don't like the Starks; they have too much integrity. This is a huge liability when it comes to the internecine politics of Westeros.
Paphlagon
ahhh yes, syrio forel
Luvvie
HE'S NOT DEAD. He's a faceless man, and was known later in the books as Jaqen H'ghar. You can't unconvince me of it.
MaelstromUmbrae
JAQEN KNEW WHAT A DANCING MASTER WAS, I AM CONVINCED OF THIS AS WELL.
Paphlagon
I like the way you think
LilBTheBasedGod
God damn it, Ned.
MaelstromUmbrae
...truth...
raccoon117
Yea, Flanders...
PizzaDogYouHaveFailedThisCity
All my favorite characters have survived, but have become far less interesting to the point where I kinda wish they'd die.
samesamebutdifferent
I'm sure George will take care of that for you soon.
baronridiculous
I sometimes feel that way about my neighbors.
RedHeadFashion
So you've been introduced to all the other effing awesome characters in GoT and THAT'S still your favourite character?
samesamebutdifferent
Well, at the time, Khal Drogo was my favourite character. Now I like a bunch of them.. most are still alive too! Sweeeet.
shortkitty
Fuck yeah, +1 for the Khal being your fave. He doesn't get enough love.
MaelstromUmbrae
To be fair, he IS kinda the only character whose motives we never wind up questioning...
ravenize
Exactly, and that's why his death is so perfect. The one time he swallows his honor it's to save the life of his daughter Sansa.
idontevenknowwhatiamdoinghere
He watches fans reactions to the 'Red Wedding' http://teamcoco.com/video/conan-highlight-red-wedding-reactions
Arkonitez
When was he on Conan? Last night?
fireeternal
This is perfect. I love this guy.
BaconWhore
havent read or watched got and i MIGHT read it now, might
hazzerdus
man fuck the red wedding. ruined my weekend
Galactasaur
This makes me want to watch the show. Wish I had HBO.
deepfriedewok
he goes, 'heh heh heh' and is actually saying 'dis gon be gooood'
Mikeyh
You can tell the people who read the book, and the people who haven't.
tiramigiu
you can see them staring at the screen like, yep what were you guys expecting?
idontevenknowwhatiamdoinghere
I think it's really nice that these book readers didn't spoil it for their friends, and then filmed them crying hysterically for fun :)
Volcanuz
If you watch, you can see the book readers disappointment in how much they got wrong in the scene. I almost broke my computer in rage.
ScienceDiscoverer
"Now you know why your friend was upset 13 years ago" xD
nopost
That man is evil.
JohnTheHogy
*nerdy friend (BE PROUD!)
sevenofninetertiaryadjunctofunimatrixzeroone
My reaction to her finding the chain mail under his shirt was "FUCKING NO. WHAT THE FUCK." Then my reaction was crying and vomiting.
pierresito
Bolton was such an ass too, laying it on the table for her and signaling her to peek at it after the "rains of castamere" were playing 1/3
pierresito
he saw her fears on her face when that song started up, and he went ahead and confirmed it for her just like that... cruel cruel asshole
Sidius89
Those reactions were awesome +1 to you good sir for this posting these :D
thatonechickwiththethingthatonetimeatthatoneplacewiththestuff
The "NOOOO WAYYYY" guy made that video epic.
dimmidice
the problem i have isn't the deaths. it's that the trap was obvious.
VinnieJonesDiary
Thats all part of the point; good men die stupid deaths because they think every1 is good,Tyrion would never have gone there,Ned would have
somepoorjerk
I understand what you mean but this will help explain it. They did a better job going over it in the book (1/2)
somepoorjerk
http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Guest_right
dimmidice
they indeed bollocks that up completely in the show.
somepoorjerk
There are just some things that i think need to be explained in the show, this is one of them.
PizzaDogYouHaveFailedThisCity
I disagree. Yes Robb should have suspected more then just a chiding for breaking his oath... to predict being slaughtered? By his bannerman?
PizzaDogYouHaveFailedThisCity
With his army outside? and under the rules of hospitality? Maybe it was obvious to a reader, but character wise... Robb was never paranoid.
goyaguyabanoguava
Didn't read the books, don't watch the show.. but imgur is really rousing my curiosity. I only have time for one. GOT or Doctor Who?
Askebaske
Read the GOT books, watch Dr. Who as a show. The books beat the show for GOT, you don't get that opportunity with Dr. Who.
nerdygamer
If you can deal w/ depression GOT, otherwise Doctor who
TheGreatAku
Game of Thrones, in my opinion. You'll really want to get caught up with the rest of us at least before season 4 starts next year
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goyaguyabanoguava
LOL! If I did that though, I'd have to give up imgur. That would be sacrilegious.
johnnyguy3
GOT would be finished faster. You would need someone to catch you up on the Doctor Who franchise in addition to the new seasons.
JoshMorrison
DW is corny as shit. It's just not very interesting in my opinion. BRING ON THE DOWNVOTES!
justwonderingisall
GoT has boobs and sword fighting in just about every episode. Thats pretty hard to beat if you ask me
rcrav
GoT is LEAGUES beyond Doctor Who, and I love Doctor Who.
DenverBolton
a Song of Ice and Fire
gabyroach
It depends on what you like. Both are awesome. If you like sci fi better than fantasy: DW. If you prefer realistic fantasy, go for GoT.
N1NJAK4T
Game of Thrones, if you are stressed for time.
AmberLou
As a person who loves both, GoT hands down. It's the best and worst thing that's ever happened to me. I hope you enjoy it!!
TheMathMagician
por que no los dos?
GollyJolly
GoT all the way. It's really consistent while Doctor Who can be a little hit and miss from time to time.
ProfessorMosby
GoT. Imgur seduced me into watching both, but Dr. Who takes up SOOO much more time, and GoT is better, in my opinion
fauxglove
Don't you be piling no Sophie's Choice on me. You find time to watch them both. D:
WeAreAllStoriesInTheEnd
Pfft. There's over a year before the new season of DW starts (not including November and December specials). Plenty of time to do both ;)
FlyMojo
Aren't there like 57 seasons of Dr. Who though?
WeAreAllStoriesInTheEnd
Only 798 episodes so far... *grins*
icantgotoprisonroytheyllrapetheflipoutofme
That's a bit like choosing a favourite child.
FernandaGracida
watch Game of thrones first and when you are done with it watch doctor who so you can cheer up ... seriously
aguyuno
Watch Doctor Who, READ A Song of Ice and Fire (the GOT books). Problem solved.
RebeccaMae
I love both so much! But I'd do Game of Thrones, and then when you get done move on to DW, because that one has a long hiatus.
JCstormz
watch Doctor who, read GOT: the books are so much better
Stormfort
I prefer Doctor Who, myself. Imgur badgers me to watch it and I've tried but I don't see the appeal.
Trolle
GAME OOF THRONES!
crazymo121
GOT
QueenJLS22
I couldn't make it past 1 episode of Dr. Who, but I've read all of the GoT books and watch the show. If my random opinion matters!
Calltheoddpolicebecauseicanteven
I always tell my friends to get three episodes into Doctor Who before they judge. Its not what you expect, but is so wonderful.
shortkitty
Game of Thrones, hands down. I think it has a much more interesting storyline.
dragonprism
You have time for both! Get the audiotape of the books, listen to them on the commute to work. Watch Doctor Who in spare time. :)
Calltheoddpolicebecauseicanteven
Both. Its not like they're going anywhere.
crazymo121
GOT
Morpheaus
Neither. Read A Song of Fire and Ice.
confuzzle
I am jealous that you get to watch it for the first time.... ahhh if I could go back and do it all again, the time wasted, I WOULD!
bigredcandle
DW if you like sci fi/epic adventure, GOT for fantasy/mystery adventure. GOT is sadder and darker, DW is more abstract and can be confusing
bigredcandle
Also GOT is shorter if you're just watching the show. DW has way more seasons
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bigredcandle
at times it can be serious, but youre right
shitsandgigglesfor100
Song Of Ice and Fire!!
akerman17
who sucks! all about GOT its unmissable
kerrath
watch dr who now, because by the time you finish dr who, got will be finished and you'll be able to watch it in one sitting.
ImgurExplorer
their will be at least five more seasons of GOT. I don't think he'll need five years to watch 80 episodes of doctor who haha
kerrath
there are a lot more than 80 episodes of dr who
ImgurExplorer
I don't think he was talking about the old series, too.
rcrav
LOL, one sitting!
SalsaOreos
GOT
SaintMaceToTheFace
Dot watch the show, read the books! GOT!
shortkitty
Why not both?
SaintMaceToTheFace
Idk if I could honestly.
Telkesh
I like what he does. It's hard to deal with, I know, but it's realistic. The hero doesn't always win.
Raifor725
I don't read fantasy novels for realism. Then again i'm not stupid..
Coopaz
His heros never fucking win
fich234
I feel kinda bad when as an aspiring writer i say i want my stuff to reflect that sometimes life just shits on you and the hero noisily dies
Gnomleif76
Sometimes ... the hero dies in the end.
gingerminge
I don't need my media realistic. I live in reality, it sucks and everything dies. I don't want to be there. That's why I'm reading books.
FlyMojo
Damn right. He puts tension in his stories and hell sometimes doing the right thing screws you over. Realistic and entertaining.
Catodactyl
I cried tears of pain and holy shit this is real life all at once. Love to hate it, lol.
pennemin
I agree. I'm hardly thrilled by movies anymore because everything always ends well. It's not only unrealistic but boring, too.
thistooshallpass165467
Exactly why I think the show is so popular. It's like a dose of larger-than-life fantastical reality, as opposed to complete fantasy.
AngryFace
Fantastical reality?
thistooshallpass165467
Yep. Like prom in movies, or sitcoms (the old ones). It could ALMOST be true.
AngryFace
Gotta agree with the prom analogy.
flexmovington
It's good in a morally ambiguous way like the Wire.
AGorillaStoleMyUsername
What I've learned in Game of Thrones: There are no bad guys or good guys, only humans.
unluckycloverfield
I don't see how realistic is necessarily good. If you really want realistic, I can write a book about how I sit at a computer all day...
gabyroach
Thank you! Finally someone with common sense.
MonkeyMook
Sean Bean ......thats all im saying
DivineBeef
actually i think, you can't really call them heroes. they are just characters with different motivations and stories, and thats whats great
livebackwards
I know. I love it too. And yet, if anything happens to Tyrion or Arya, I will riot.
kaizukaInaho
Sometimes heroes fall despite there strength.
Pornegranate
Yeah, this is why I found The Avengers boring as fuck; you know none of them will die so the fights have no tension at all.
Telkesh
I agree. And even other books like Harry potter didnt have any significant deaths until the last 2 where it didn't matter anymore
flamingflamingo
Realistic is fine. I just think you can do realism without being downright depressing.
Shepdawg
The hero may not always win, BUT THEY DONT ALWAYS DIE HORRIBLE, POINTLESS DEATHS!!
zeppelins
Not pointless at all. Major contributor to the advancement of the plot.
ehellbow
Pointless, is that what you think? Hmm. You think that is air that you are breathing?
Wipeupthelubeplease
The hero rarely wins* I fixed it for you babe.:)
skantman
Statistically I'd bet most heroes die.
ehellbow
and the story as it stands couldn't be as awesome as it is without the plot points the deaths create. 'cause what? Rob wins? Then what?
Rakeesh
Even then, If the death of Ned had never happened, as a main/the primary character, the story would have advanced to dullness.
ehellbow
exactly
kamisan
He did win... Everything! That's the genius of it. Problem is he did what his stupid mum told him to do
MistaSmiles
It is NOT reallistic. The hero shouldn't always win, but he shouldn't always lose either
VinnieJonesDiary
Ned &Rob both died because they expected people to keep their word & b as noble as them,they wouldnt have lasted 5 minutes as medieval lords
CanadianSith
That's why I am always the villain...
AbsentaneousMind
Your username... do you play hockey?
jeppevonpreussen
But Lannisters always wins...
gabyroach
Not always...
ehellbow
word. Wassa matter Joff-Joff? Sore throat?
LastRemainingUsername
who really is the hero in this story? based on the tv series, everyone is flawed and has at least one awful character trait.
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IamANewt
MAJOR END OF BOOKS SPOILER
BenJScar
Rhaegar is the hero, but he was killed and the story takes place in a world where the hero was slain.
whyteraven74
Shakespeare did the same thing. And got through it all a lot faster.
Ralianth
The starks, but more specifically jon snow.... He is the outcast for being a bastard, so he would be the "unlikely hero" 1/?
Ralianth
He's very much like Eddard, but we need to take into account that he also had his time for being a hero which was when he overthrew the 2/3
Ralianth
Targaryens with robert.In my mind ned was a hero in the game of thrones as well, but he just wasn't suited for playing this "game of thrones
Hrafnsmerki
Also, my vote goes for Jon. He's the most "modern" character, with no real flaws.
Mrginger128
I think the Starks are the hero type, In the show moreso than the books. They have the hero quality more-so than the other houses imo.
RenoXIII
Everyone knows the Starks are noble and traditional. Doesn't necessarily make them heroes, but they're not bad guys either.
Askebaske
In the books the Starks are portrayed mostly as hardheaded, traditional and totally inflexible to change. Not sure how heroic that is.
Mrginger128
I'd say they fit the archtype more than the other houses, Even if it's not a great fit.
IamANewt
inflexible, sure - seems probable (i didnt read). But Ned struck me as a man of honor, Robb is lost (therefore gullible), (1/2)
IamANewt
arya seems badass, Sansa was never raised, and catelyn is probably the most cripplingly conservative (more so than Ned). (2/2)
spacecowboyein
there are a number of heroes. there are arguably no protagonists though
BenJScar
Its like a story that takes place in a world where Ganon killed Link
Taxicab0428
They have that, it's called the Downfall Timeline, and starts with Windwaker
BenJScar
i actually heard about that
KitchenSink
"Everyone is flawed and has at least one awful character trait" Yep, sounds like real life.
flamingflamingo
Real life, just what I'm hoping to experience when I read fantasy books.
IamANewt
speak for yourself, literature is an expression of human nature - devoid of it, it is pointless. like the literature of barteldan (d. adams)
flamingflamingo
I was speaking for myself. IMO (still speaking for myself) there are more facets to human nature than what Martin writes about.
Hrafnsmerki
Tyrion is a freaking saint in the TV series. In the books he is a more gray and well written character.
IWillHugYouAtTheSlightestProvocation
The hero is Aegon Targaryen. You don't meet him until the fifth book.
Askebaske
Aegon has no strong motive besides what has been put upon him, and with no POVs and little 'screen time' I doubt he will be a major player.
Hrafnsmerki
There is no way the hero is introduced until the 5th book of a series. He's a mummer's dragon.
IWillHugYouAtTheSlightestProvocation
Oh, but the irony in him.
Hrafnsmerki
What do you mean?
Telkesh
Almost like real people. No one in life is 100% good or evil.
itsppearsyoucanindeed
"Only the Sith deal in extremes"
BaronHotschaft
"Only a Sith deals in absolutes" which in itself is an absolute.
thatonechickwiththethingthatonetimeatthatoneplacewiththestuff
I'm pretty sure Daenerys is in the lead so far. She fucks shit up and frees slaves left and right.
Sirolfus
And she does it based on lies and being deceived, so that's great
IamANewt
her new commander is gonna totally catch up with her, i can see that happening already
guzzball
She has also become very cocky, which leads me to believe things might not work out so well for her.
thatonechickwiththethingthatonetimeatthatoneplacewiththestuff
I hadn't thought of the cocky trait before. I've been blinded by dragons. Pretty sure you just ruined my whole day.
LastRemainingUsername
in the lead? (spoiler) she makes a deal to trade a dragon for slave soldiers and then says, "actually, i am going to kill you." not noble.
bibliophilic
I know it's an unpopular opinion but I've never really liked Daenerys. I feel like without the dragons she wouldn't really have appeal.
thatonechickwiththethingthatonetimeatthatoneplacewiththestuff
There are a lot of well-loved characters I cannot stand. Popular opinion or not, you're still entitled to one.
bibliophilic
Thanks! I have my favorite characters but I totally understand why others wouldn't agree w/ them. It'd be boring if everyone liked the same.
PhoenixVictoriaInvictus
I think Martin set up Ned as a very quintessential hero so that by killing him, he could prove that plot armor does not exist in Westros.
BorgaSmorg
I would agree on intent of the character but even he was vastly imperfect. Dense, without foresight, cheated on his wife to boot.
NoblePerplexity
Read the first book at least. If you have, then google R+L=J, not so much spoilers as, "How did I miss all that the first time around?"
BorgaSmorg
Shhhh! We are talking to show folk! ^_^
kippls
Did he?
BorgaSmorg
Well =) At THIS point hehe
shortkitty
Oooh I wanna say something here, but I caaaaaaaan't.
StarsandStones
Spoilers!
BorgaSmorg
Thanks =) I've heard of this bit, but feigned ignorance for the sake of the show timeline.
ProfessorMosby
So heres what I think would be cool:Jaime Lannister, is controversial, but is an honorable man. What if after finding out about the Red (1)
ProfessorMosby
Wedding, he becomes furious that WF betrayed [Red Wedding Guy]. So, Jaime destroys WF to avenge [Red Wedding Guy]. Interesting no?
RenoXIII
Most Lannisters are honorable in their own way. Jaime is self-absorbed & slowly changes (so far), Tywin was always ruthless but not evil (1)
RenoXIII
Tyrion is prob the most noble of them all. But Cersei and Joffrey are just downright c*nts/evil. (Tommen and Myrcella are cool) (2)
watchmerun
Jaime's...not really all that honorable. Brienne's rescue notwithstanding, Jaime is concerned about Jaime.
ProfessorMosby
No, like he is selfish, but believes in honor. [Guy's} death would likely piss him off
watchmerun
He believes in honor, sure. He doesn't have a lot of it. Besides, [Guy] was trying to murder his family.