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sinkingfeeling
I've done this.
BiscoffUnited
I find it so weird and messed up even the thought of having to pay to see a doctor...
Aimlockbelch
Ossom!
watchouthereicum
I did the same thing with an indoor skydiving event I was supposed to go to and yeah had the same reaction
ThisGifDoesNotApply
GigFledge
User checks out
ChancellorMatt
Makes sense when you think about it, based on experience i can tell you whoever is on the other end of that line sure doesnt care
plainskotti
works the same with hotels.
veryhairyarea
Just go to reddit if you want to read reddit content
FilmMagician
Works for hotels too.
plentyofrabbits
Works with hotels too.
omgur
or you could postpone indefinitely
sakujou
Typically for third world countries such as the US. Medical treatment should covered by an insurance where you dont deal with numbers.
STINKPICKEL
$200 for a missed appointment is robbery, my doctors only charge $25. I just hate we can't charge them when THEY cancel on us.
goldfish774
When they realize what happened "FUCK" how have we not noticed that loop hole :P
stilloldbull
I lost my driver license from my wallet. Rented a car on my expired military ID....
theHuskySparrow
I have two linked bank accounts, one old account with my mom on it and one with my wife. I can access both online and transfer funds 1/
theHuskySparrow
whenever. Tried to deposit my paycheck with my wife's into the account with my mom on it. They said I couldn't because my wife was not 2/
theHuskySparrow
on that account. Deposited into our account instead. "Is there anything else I can do for you?" "Yes I need to transfer some money 3/4
theHuskySparrow
from one account to the other." "Okay, what amount?" Really. 4/4
OGReya
In Switzerland the deadline for cancelling is 24h... Guess we're lucky...
CacheMonet
Another solution to that problem would be living literally anywhere other than the US
BYERE
Who the fuck charges $200 to cancel an appointment?
FsImgur
Your Mom
BYERE
No, she charges $200 per hour. It's only $100 if they cancel
ShaunDreclin
this guy's doctor
HRinappropriate
This works with hotels too. Just reschedule online, or call the front desk. Then cancel online or call the front desk...
GeneralZappBrannigan
Manager for a hotel here, just call us, usually we're flexible when you're reasonable. Third party agents are a complication to it though.
allshinycptn08
Just dont do it with the same reservations agent -they can get in trouble for that
vanella
Doesn't work if you do it through an agency (like hotels.com or expedia)
StarrSmasherr
I tell people to do this all the time when they call the front desk and aren't within the cancellation policy!
MobileUserGundam
Did the same with a train once.
Sailorjoop
I worked at a hotel and was going to say this!
bachterman
a full hotel is a good hotel. vacant rooms are just waste of money.
taps
Oh my. Great!
shartsicle
I do this all the time bc my business travel schedule is very volatile. Saves me beaucoup €€€€.
NihonJinLover
The spelling of the word beau coup never occurred to me until reading your comment after 32 years of life. I always envisioned boku
TheJudgeHasItBackwards
I figured bookoo. I considered myself fairly well read, until this moment.
shartsicle
In some Creole dialects, they actually do spell it boku. ;-)
NihonJinLover
It's probably because I've studied Japanese and they use the word boku for the male version of "I"
vangundy15
I've changed my non refundable rooms to refundable rooms and cancelled them.
CraftedLine
Go on!
vangundy15
Was through booking.com so they actually did it for me. Told booking I either want to cancel or change to non refundable. Was 3/3 that day.
shartsicle
God among men
theJB
Depends how good the hotel operation is. I would never let that shit fly. You want to reschedule, the new dates are non refundable
StarrSmasherr
Unless you're a GM I don't see how you could do that. Are you changing their reservations to advance deposit?
theJB
Yes. If you change your reservation within cancellation policy, you would immediately get charged. It's a courtesy to allow change of dates
OBM1
Funny how all the life hack people are down-voting your comments...
theJB
Right? Just call and be nice and you'll have a better chance.
Cupkileer45
uisforukulele
Correct. Amendments to bookings within the cancellation period are not subject to the original policy. Don't spread this "life hack" shit.
theJB
Love that we're getting downvoted for just stating how we run hotels!
uisforukulele
It's the snowflakes :)
OBM1
wait a minute... I can't have the cake AND eat it too? That's not the life I signed up for...
shartsicle
If it works, it's a hack worth sharing. Maybe it doesn't work in your hotel, but it's worked 30+ times for me and never backfired.
uisforukulele
If you have had to cancel hotel bookings at the last minute over 30 times, you need to organise better...
shartsicle
1/ Well, I travel mostly for business, and my employer has a policy to book travel at least 14 days in advance to get the best rates. Unfor-
butch3fan70
If thats true, you are my hero.
SkyWlkr7
I used to work at massage envy where the same kind of rules applied. I would always tell the clients to reschedule and call back and cancel.
GrimRiderJ
Shit same here, I just thought y'all would like it as much as I did
PoopholeAintALoophole
Honesty gets +1.
Darthran
It's not. That's ok.
SomethingOddlySpecific
You can do good with hotel visits, just call back a different day. I used to work front desk at a hotel and nobody gives a shit
Syaoron
It works for Disney reservations too actually. Only thing that will
ImNotUsuallyThisErect
I've had something similar happen, my mum called up the internet company (a delight to everyone who meets her) she ran out of data and /1
ImNotUsuallyThisErect
Didn't know how to order more. The guy on the phone increased the plan to the biggest and told her to call the day before the end of /2
ImNotUsuallyThisErect
The billing cycle and reduce it to the previous plan. The extra 300gb of data got added to the current month (just how it worked) /3
ImNotUsuallyThisErect
Then she called back and reduced it before the cycle. I thought it was brilliant.
macthelost
Wouldn't work for my provider. You can only go up, to go down you would have to cancel service with a fee, and start new service
butch3fan70
Your Mum sounds like a shrewd customer alright.
dhdj24
Yes. A screenshot of a convo from reddit, posted on imgur, by someone with a different username is totally the story of the imgur poster :/
butch3fan70
Thanks detective. What is it a slow night around the old station?
joc101
You must be fun at parties
Mxlespxles
BlueSpaceLizard
Waaaait...are you being sarcastic?
HarpLoveAngel
I assume they are referring to whoever wrote the Reddit post. But I agree, imgur is a bunch of unoriginal dicks who think they are clever /2
HarpLoveAngel
cuz they repeat the same tired jokes keeping them from breaching that important wall between friend and guy who makes dumb internet jokes
Jzariopeter
Hey man... Chill. We're all friends here. We are all just trying to pass some time looking at posts. Old or new, it's something to do.
HarryPotterGeek
My main reddit account has a diff name than my main imgur account.
allibaster12
Same here. I don't see the problem with it? I got reddit before i got imgur and i set up an imgur account.
Fingstar
Why you got more than 1 account on each? Are you trying to boost your posts? I know a guy who got in a lot of trouble for that shit.
allibaster12
How do you get in trouble for having a reddit account and an imgur account? They're 2 separate entities. Unless youre being facetious.
NothingToSeeHereCarryOn
"Main" Reddit account. "Main" Imgur account. Main implies multiple.
Golfbob
I have one for porn
HarryPotterGeek
I have one where I am more of a professional, and one where it's my personal views. I keep them separate. Hardly nefarious.
lawideas
Another thing that works: "I will not pay your arbitrary late fee. I'm not obligated to do so and never signed any agreement that I would."
egbertmoxie
Hmm... making a reservation usually implies you will abide by the service providers policy. No?
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BaconFarts
You realize the situation you're referring to causes the massage therapist to lose money right?
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notme222
Starting the next day, $300 charge to reschedule.
MrTestCat
Worked once ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
realoc
Why would the doctor charge you for canceling the appoitnment in the first place?
ShaunDreclin
Its hard to fill in your appointment with somebody else on short notice.
NNextremNN
Because they have costs no matter if a patients comes or not. And other patients could have taken that appointment slot.
brknsoul
That's understandable if you cancel 24-48hrs before; no time to schedule another patient. But a week? That's not right.
realoc
I'm from Germany and here you just call and schedule for another date without any charges at all. That shit is fucked up!
NNextremNN
Even here in Germany many doctors charge a fee if you cancel less then 24hours before or don't come to appointments at all.
realoc
I never experienced this. Maybe this applies only for private health insurance?
NNextremNN
My dentists has a pretty strict schedule which means less waiting times. I once forgot but they made an exception and didn't had to pay.
YeahWellAboutThat
No. Well, maybe: I've only seen it now that I'm NOT privately insured anymore, but with a dentist, i.e. where you have to pay most of the1/2
CongratsYouAreHereNow
$200 to cancel an appt? that's absolute jiggery pokery. people fail to show up all the time. unless this is some sort of psychiatrist
VodkaSauce
Jiggery pokery!
CongratsYouAreHereNow
you're welcome
DukeDarkwood
Most specialists do this... although a week is kinda ridiculous, I agree. All the ones I know it's 24/48 hours (and I am in the U.S., yes).
Temptedweeds
Yeah that's what I was thinking a week is a bit much but 24/48 hrs is normal
CongratsYouAreHereNow
what kind of specialists? i work with medical devices and it's very often that people don't show up to procedures
DukeDarkwood
Cardiologist, pulmonoligist, nephrologist, oncologist, and yes, psychiatrist and therapist. And I can understand the logic, really. These
DukeDarkwood
people have a lot of patients come through, and if they cleared their time slot for you, it really is unfair to not give at least 24 hours'
CongratsYouAreHereNow
i can understand the logic too, but i work in hospitals all over northern california and people fail to show up to procedures regularly
CLOWNSHOOS
Time to switch doctors.
amishcannoli
And then you had an HMO. :|
LajesticVantrashellOfLob
time to switch to geico
EricFromAccounts
Doctors HATE him!
Strasburg6592
Especially since doctors don't pay you when THEY cancel on you.
theslowbros
Do doctors do that?
Velexis
When they get sick, yeah.
theslowbros
When my doctor was sick another one stepped in.
Oegrem
JagdPanzer38T
or when they tell you your appointment is at 1:00, don't see you until 2:30
WintyrSolstice
I work at a pediatrician's office, and I feel like I might need to share something about scheduling. So we have ~16 doctors, and (1/?)
WintyrSolstice
And front office (me) schedules for all of them. You get an idea about which doctors spend more time on patients. (2/?)
Strasburg6592
I should share with you the time I called myself smart and scheduled an appointment at 4:00 to reduce my time off from work. 1/2
Strasburg6592
Long and short of it: yeah, they didn't see me that day. Or the next 2 times I tried to reschedule at that time.
TenzVi
sounds like u need a better doctor.
Spjs
$400 charge to switch doctors
DC1888
Dont go to a private doctor. Free.
TommyCreo
I guess I'll just go ahead and die then.
NeatoBuilds
$500 for any more questions
ExceptFluffyDuck
One more peep out of you, $800
killer10347
$600 to share what was said over the phone online.
LikeTotallyNotTheNSA
This kept getting better +1
nihilistdad
See shit like that is exactly why I left the USA.
Mavgurian
So you became a pesky immigrant?
Gayforbae
600$ after insurance for a good anal fingering. And they don't even finish you off.
msar4
Like when I found out it was cheaper to just not show up than it was to cancel a flight.
DynamicWeight
I had a very long frustrating conversation with the airline once because it was cheaper to buy a new ticket than reschedule.
NotMyUsualOnlineName
Friend of mine found out the mobile internet service that was in town several years back was cheaper to pay the reactivation fee for two
NotMyUsualOnlineName
months than it was to pay for service for two months. Activate it, don't pay the first month due, reactivate it, repeat.
omgpleaseworkthistime
Fuck that place.
FilthyRapscallions
I'd say fuck the habitual no-shows that make policy like this necessary.
moriartie
whynotboth.gif
YodasLeftEar
but how do you charge the if they never show up?
FilthyRapscallions
I'm not sure how that works, but around here, new patients sign a contract. Other places refuse to take skippers business.
bullseyewomprats
Wal-Mart policy on disc is no refund for opened items, only exchange for new ones. Exchange for new one. I'd like to return an unopened disc
Iloveanonymityandilovebeingnoticed
Don't they make you open the new one at the counter? Best Buy did when I returned a disc.
asm80dfa8sdfj
Lolwut
crovali
So keep trading open for unopened, open them then trade again. Rinse and repeat until they're out of discs. That'll show them.
ZombieZoidberg
yeah, Bestbuy has always been a bunch of cunts, even when you have a legitimate return.
Cilvaa
$200 to cancel?? Here in Australia, a 15 min doctor visit is around $50-60, and the Govt reimburses $37 of that..
abidikgubidik
We pay extra for no deadly snakes ;)
Cilvaa
Fair enough :P
darkdragonempress
Really? I think a lot of us are due for a damn refund then.
YoUcAnNoTuSeAdEaDmEmEfOrYoUrUsErNaMe
Well, we get the snakes, you guys get the cyclones. (Hurricanes)
LannistersSendTheirRetards
This is an awesome idea I might just use since I have like 3 doctor appointments every month
heffalumpisbetterthannone
is that all? piker
atarujun
Do you like dags?
heffalumpisbetterthannone
Upon googling this term I can safely say I never met one.
Wikipedo
Shouldn't you be going to them, or else why are there so many?
ilovepeachesmorethanyou
are you dying?
JoonasD6
Dying correlates strongly with doctors and hospitals. I’d recommend staying away.
JohnyCarlos
Probably has doctor fetish or severely lack of apple supply.
JoonasD6
Only on the outside.
likeadragon
It doesn't work. I have about 4 to 5 appointments to the psychologist, psychiatrist and regular doctor.
LannistersSendTheirRetards
I used to be lol. Now just frequent post-cancer things to check my medication levels.
ImmaNeedBoutTreeFiddy
Oh shit! You're one of my favourite imgurians. Good job on not dying. Hope you stay well ;)
coolguy4206969
Congrats! On not dying not medication levels.
LannistersSendTheirRetards
Yeah it's been pretty neat not dying so far
darynu
Welcome to the club of not currently dying. Always good to see a member return
NapAllDayPartyNever
me too! except they call and cancel and reschedule me for inconvenient times.
RobertLSU
Aren't we all?
destess
Not those younger than their mid 20s B)
Sc00ba5teeve
Depends on how you define yourself. Millions of parts of us die and are replaced constantly from birth.
destess
You start losing more brain cells than you can produce around your 20s
Sublethal
Yeah. Some just do it faster than others
killerdecoy7
It's oxygen, it's poisonous to us all, slowly killing us. Just takes a longer time for some.
PeterParkerPickedAPeckOfPickledPeppers
In the Silvia Plath sense of the word.
cringeypingey
Sounds awesome on paper, but they might blacklist you and you cant make another appointment
canIuseyourtoilet
If it is a specialist you need, i would not try to get blocked. Hard to find and not everybody is good. One weks notice is a bit long. 48h!
TheMagicalUpvoteFearie
Doctors can blacklist you?! - shocked Europeans
FelixG
Private Practice ones can. No reason a doctor (or anyone else) should have to put up with someone they dont like if there are other options
mynamesbryson
Beauty of the free market is he can find another.
BDD85
To a Doctor? Aren't they sworn to not do shit like that?
SocoFox
The doctor, yes. But the doctor hires all kinds of shady assholes at his practice who do this shit and he will "never know" it happens.
shartsicle
1/ Most likely not, unless you do it a lot and your business isn't worth keeping. I stay around 60 nights a year with the same chain and do
shartsicle
2/ this every 7th-8th reservation on average when my plans change after the cancellation period. They usually know what I'm doing, but they
shartsicle
3/ never give me any shit about it because they know I'm as invested in the relationship as they are.
housev1l
Or maybe it's just an employee playing by the rules & being fair.
AGrammeIsBetterThanADamn
Lol. No. You're not scheduling with the doctor, but with the receptionist. The receptionist doesn't care.
polymetricr
Honestly I wouldn't care, if a doctor is sketchy enough to do this who knows what else they're pulling
MaladaptedMedic
Sketchy enough to charge for a cancelled appointment without 24hrs notice? That's really not uncommon
JHawke
It is if you charge 200 for what was scheduled as not even a hour of work.
LifeHasManyDoorsEddBoy
24 hours is understandable, the context of this post is a full week was required.
MaladaptedMedic
... Right, carry on with your day. I'll be over here if anyone needs me.
Insomnia297
Hey do you still have that weed whacker for sale?
Kmank95
24 hours? Yes. But a weeks notice seems a bit crazy
t0pz
I think its useful to mention where this is common. Where i come from, cancelling doc appointments is free, always has been
Nutinbutbootson
My doctor's all charge $20, but $200! This is why people fill up ERs when they just have a cold. Jesus
t0pz
Also, what stops u from just not showing up and never paying a cent?
MaladaptedMedic
In NY at least, I've never seen a doctor that DOESN'T charge for short-notice cancellations
DefinitelyNotHavingAMeltdown
Find a new doctor then, there are plenty of them out there that would love to add a new client to their list
sammmuel
Lol. You must not be from Canada. Changing doctor? Bitch, you just have pushed your appointment by a few months.
BearToof
And plenty of doctors that won't want you as a patient if you continually put holes in their schedule.
Gdan79
Where do you live? Around here I had to call 4 places before I found one accepting new patients.
letsbakecookies
I don't know where you live that there are plenty of doctors, but I envy you!
BreadyStinellis
I would think anywhere outside of a rural community. I can think of 8 hospitals within a 30min drive of me. Actual hospitals, Drs offices
BreadyStinellis
Practically on every corner.
letsbakecookies
Here in Australia, we have a doctor shortage everywhere, it's definitely worse in rural/remote areas though.
BearToof
Hell. I'd move to Australia. How easy is it to get working visa as a doctor? If you might per chance know.
letsbakecookies
Haven't the foggiest I'm sorry
Corrodias
USA. The healthcare system generally has plenty of capacity in a lot of places because you have to pay an arm and a leg to fix either.
jdeman
Something doesn't sound right about referring to patients as clients
CraftedLine
They're referred as clients by many states, actually if you don't call them a client you could be fined between $5,000-$10,000 per incident.
Beartornado
It can't sound any worse than making patients pay $200 just to cancel.
EADimgur
I mean Clinics and Doctor's Offices are businesses too. Their clients just happen to be buying medical treatment
WhatUsernameShouldIChoose
WHY DO DOCTORS CALL IT A PRACTICE??!?!?!
Khayah
Because practice makes perfect but perfection is impossible so no mater how good you are you still just practicing
PICKLERICKKKKKKK
It sounds perfectly American
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
Murica land of the "free" (to pay egregious amounts of money to not die)
Knillis
*Laughs in Dutch*
FeckItImAubreyPlazaNow
Blame insurance. I blame them for everything these days.
Myquil
I blame lobbying
FeckItImAubreyPlazaNow
That too.
sammmuel
I wish we were clients instead of patients; might get better and faster service... (Canada here btw)
Mavgurian
*customers
Corrodias
Why? It seems like they fit the definition of the term, as a person receiving professional (medical) services.
Corrodias
In the vet industry, there is a distinction between the two, as the client is the person seeking treatment for the patient, but in human »
Corrodias
medicine, they should generally the same thing, no?
shartsicle
I'm usually treated better as a client than I am as a patient. I don't mind the goofy terminology. :-)
orginelenaam
What happens if you don't have money or insurance, and show up in a hospital mortally wounded? Do they just let you die? That violates 1/2
orginelenaam
Hippokrates' oath 2/2
CraftedLine
They would stabilize you, even if it means surgery, then transport you to an indigent hospital.
Notyourhomie
A doctor does not need to take the oath in order to become a doctor.
orginelenaam
Really? Where I live it is kind of a big deal (not the stuff about teaching the sons of your friends, but treating everyone who needs it).
Notyourhomie
I should rephrase that, a doctor is not *bound* by the Hippocratic oath
BearToof
Yeah, but most laws require professionals to do any true emergency treatment on a person.
BearToof
The ER doctor is different than the family practice, appointment doc. And they are required to do any necessary surgery to keep you alive.
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
The good thing about capitalism is that you can just go to another doctor.
lurkmoarjono
Until the market decides that it can universally make more money by adopting the same policy. Then where does choice get you?
yonasux
Because only capitalism has more than one hospital? That's not how any of this works
macthelost
Most universal health care systems don't let you chose your provider. They just tell you where to go and you go there.
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
Capitalism gives you a choice in what doctor to go to because they're part of a selective industry.
AzgarOgly
In theory any system would allow more than one hospital. Actually free market and competition is kinda specific to capitalism. In other //
AzgarOgly
systems it is usually a rather shortage of service, services are monopolized or distributed administratively.
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
Also, in some systems there's fewer doctors due to the lack of financial incentive.
darkdragonempress
From my understanding most make really good money and they don't have to worry about expensive malpractice insurance or a mountain of 1
darkdragonempress
Student loan debt. The higher wage isn't as necessary when the highest expenses aren't there. 2
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
In just about every other system, there's no built-in mechanism of allowing you a choice, you're assigned a doctor and that's that.
KevinMenzel
Yeah um, Canadian here, and no, that's not how it works at all. No need for capitalism to have choice.
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
Canada is capitalist.
darkdragonempress
I'm not entirely sure that's right. I think it might be a list you have to chose from.
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
That list is built by a civil servant (or some other bureaucratic mechanism, ie. PC) so it's not "built-in," it's artificial and abstracted.
shartsicle
1/ Every system is different and has its advantages and drawbacks. The advantage of capitalism is that it provides strong incentives to add
mirdza
We had multiple doctors and hospitals when we were in communism so your argument is invalid.
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
Which country?
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
Were all medical staff put on a low government wage and given a overwhelming daily quota of patients so they stopped caring altogether?
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
Do you mean factory-like hospitals where patient choice is irrelevant and which one is based on your government assigned residence?
WilliamHuskerAdama
Jesus, $200? If my medical expenses exceed $285 (during a calendar year), all medical expenses are free for the rest of the year. (Norway)
reijigin
I just paid a $180 bill for some routine annual bloodwork, and I have insurance. 'Merica.
maugriman
Mine are just free (Australia). Which is good cuz of all the spider bites. And snake bites. And fish bites. And insect bites. And Croc bites
HowComeDespiteTheFact
Similar here(Germany)
IratetheD
can... can i move to Norway???
Catimodes
What medical expenses? Scotland here.
WilliamHuskerAdama
Any medical expenses. From doc. visits to surgery, prescription medication, pretty much anything except for cosmetic and dental.
ZombieZoidberg
Lucky you! I had a 6k deductible before insurance even kicked in to pay 50% of qualifying expenses. Then I lost my job, now I have nothing!
waitbutactually
Im an american working in Norway. Sprained my ankle, went to the ER, needed an x-ray. Total cost $50. Epipen? $60. Freaking insane
reijigin
Wait I have a better one: My monthly payment FOR my insurance, like just to have it at all, is around $260 and I still get bills like that.
reijigin
For example if I got physical therapy every week like I'm supposed to, it would run me about $800/month. On top of $260 for the insurance.
RationalViking
and they say socialism is bad. morons.
WilliamHuskerAdama
BUT IF I PAY HIGH TAX WHAT IF MY MONEY PAYS FOR SOMEONE ELSE THATS NOT FAIR
RationalViking
Yeah, we can't have any of that is a society. Everyone for themselves is the way to go. :p
BearToof
I think a lot of people have issues paying medical bills for people who CHOOSE to live unhealthy lifestyles, which is a fair % of them in US
BearToof
Particularly - smokers, obesity, diabetes. All of which cause many heart, lung, GI, vascular, etc issues leading to very expensive care
BearToof
And let's be honest. Americans are so fucking unhealthy. BY CHOICE. it's not just healthcare that needs to chance. It's everything.
mycatToastwasafatasshole
A lot of people complaining are the same ones that got pissy that Michelle Obama wanted to teach kinds about healthy eating early on.
BearToof
But let's be honest. It wasn't what she was doing that pissed them off, it was simply who it was that was pushing it. People suck.
thylm
Good thing I live in Germany. If I'm in pain, I will get treated the very same day without any costs.
justahusk
I always look for my fellow Norwegians in posts about health care and welfare. $200 is a crazy big amount.
WilliamHuskerAdama
What baffles me the most is when my fellow Norwegians complain about the taxes we pay. Oblivious to med. expenses of other countries.
reijigin
Here's a fun fact, if I made my US salary in Norway I'd only pay 2% more annually in income tax. But because I wouldn't have student 1/2
reijigin
loans or bigger medical costs, I would actually have more money in my pocket overall every year. America's "low taxes" are kind of a myth2/2
reijigin
(and I live somewhere with no state tax in America, too. that's just the national tax)
justahusk
Agreed. Also, we spend a comparatively small amount of our salary on food. Many don't know how good they have it here.
WilliamHuskerAdama
I think most people who complain spend their lives in Norway, or in typical 'tourist towns' when they travel. Never seeing actual poverty
justahusk
Agreed, bro.
spamshampoo
American here. Used to pay $26/month, everything covered 12 years ago. Obama care came along and now I pay $400/month and $10,000 deductable
BiliboyJenkins
I think we're expecting insurance to cover too much. It should be for catastrophic stuff, and we should be able to save up for normal stuff
spamshampoo
When I was self pay I spent less than a quarter than what I do now on premiums.
BiliboyJenkins
Most people would be better off with a health savings account and a high deductible catastrophic coverage.
BiliboyJenkins
I paid a 2k emergency room bill out of pocket once, but since I didn't have 400+ per month insurance premiums I could afford it with savings
QuazMasta
Curious: what's your annual % of income paid to taxes? Mine was 11.6% in 2015 (USA) on $120k, and that year I had surgery and >>
QuazMasta
paid $2400 for it. Making my net expenditure on Tax+Health roughly $16,300. I'm sure your taxes cover lots of other stuff too, but curious.
QuazMasta
For any other USers reading, I did have awesome insurance at the time. I miss it.
WilliamHuskerAdama
Usually 36% (plus 25% VAT, 15% on foodstuffs). Tax also pays your salary if you get sick, schools, roads etc. I'm studying in Finland 1/?
WilliamHuskerAdama
this year and was granted $18.5k to pay for school (Which was only $5000/yr for dorm room, 4 meals/day and wifi). The past 2 years I was 2/3
WilliamHuskerAdama
unemployed, state paid me $1500/mo for two full years, to pay for food and rent.
danielsan1977
Went to the doctor because I jammed my finger. She felt around, no broken bones. Was a sprain. Charged $305 for a 5 min visit. (In the USA)
BearToof
Yeah, you are paying for their time. They could be doing something productive but you came in for relatively nothing. 1/
BearToof
I'm not trying to come off as mean it's just hard to communicate with so little characters.
danielsan1977
I wanted to make sure I didn't break my finger because it was feeling off three days later.
WilliamHuskerAdama
I had laparoscopic surgery earlier this year, to fix a hernia. Spent 10 hours in the hospital, never even got billed.
Remainder
Passed out last year, was taken to hospital. 2 hours in a room + a saline solution. Was told there was nothing wrong with me. $6,000. (US)
Remainder
Apparently the doctor spent 10 seconds in the room with me and said I was just high (I don't do any drugs).
sharptongue
Sounds about right. Paid $101.30 to be told "your 3-month-long period will PROBABLY stop soon, your hormones will even out with more time."
BreadyStinellis
Ugh. I used to get my period every 2 weeks and that was miserable. I can't even I shine 3 months straight. I'm so sorry you has to go thru
BreadyStinellis
That. I hope you found relief. Also, *imagine, Not I shine.
BigTruckRegularPenis
"and this doesn't usually happen to men"
auscaliber
Ouch. I cut a tendon on my hand accidentally while cooking. Spent a week in hospital waiting for surgery because they were so busy. /1
auscaliber
When I got out, I had a course of antibiotics to prevent infection. I paid $20 for them, and that was the total cost of everything. Aus /2
auscaliber
Im a student and remember thinking, "man I'd be so fucked if I was american". I hope you guys get something better soon.
Nikolai5
They don't want anything better. They are all convinced that they are either rich or will be rich soon and so feel they shouldn't need to
IratetheD
bless your soul child... i hope so too.
ExitPursuedBySeveralBears
My mom's tooth crumbled a replacement is $5000 plus a few hundred for removal or $2500 for a lousy mini denture that won't work great..
ExitPursuedBySeveralBears
Plus a few hundred for the appointments, $100 each image they took. I know dentistry is different but still, it's not a big operation and
ExitPursuedBySeveralBears
our insurance won't cover it..
BearToof
Oral surgeon to be here. A lot of $$ comes from paying for undergrad, dental and medical school and not having a job for 14 yrs while 1/
BearToof
2/ learning all that shit and then coming out and realizing that it's 800k for a practice bc dental chairs cost 20k each.
ImpossiblyStrangeStranger
Wow...i had the exact same thing for total of 40$...hail communism
WilliamHuskerAdama
Holy shit. Even our dental (which isn't covered) is way cheaper. I can imagine a similar procedure would be 600-1000$ at most here.
WilliamHuskerAdama
And when you consider our median (disposable) income is around $34'000/yr, it's not bad at all.
ExitPursuedBySeveralBears
https://imgur.com/vu7eWax Gosh darn it