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GigiDundas
I'm a wheat farmer in MT, not all farmers lose money and live off of govt payments, some of us know how to run a farm AND a business.
NobodyReally3
Fun fact. Everyone who has ever eaten a fruit or vegetable has died or is guaranteed to die. Still think farmers aren't killing us?
CardboardMecha
Actually, the #1 cause of death is living.
AlixSalvatore
Not saying it isn't hard work/you never lose money, but in every place I've been the largest, more lavish, and expensive homes: farmers own.
gayindianafarmboy
Yeah, suddenly EVERYBODY in the comment section is a fucking expert about GMO's, government subsidies, and economics. Twats.
Pocketwing
*far-ming
TSwit
Venet
IfIHadAQuarterForEveryUsedUsername
IfIHadAQuarterForEveryUsedUsername
This gift will never be used so perfectly qgain
AxelYamanaka
but if I survived it's not poisonous, right?
HarryHamwallet
This is actually the republican response when asked about healthcare
IfIHadAQuarterForEveryUsedUsername
Nevermind
muscletank
Thanks Obama
Onlyifyouwantto
Looks shopped
DarkwingDuc
Look at the creases. It's definitely shopped.
ironcladread
First police became special snowflakes, now the farmers?
DrHouseSynch
Farmers love to tell everyone how important they are. I see tons of bumper stickers here in farm country.
DrHouseSynch
As if they are the one single group that contributes to society.
HairytheSheep
Since every single substance humans use in life is either mined or farmed, id say they are quite substantial.
letters2u1992
Isn't farming a verb?
ThePurpleMacaw
thats what i thought
PriestOfLordVote
It's a gerund, which means, for example, "the farming of corn" and "corn farming" mean the same thing and are both valid.
letters2u1992
http://www.elementalenglish.com/ing-action-words-gerunds/ okay -- neat. I learned something. Thanks guys.
ImAChiquitaBanana
It can be both a noun and a verb. I think it is more often used as a verb, though.
YourFriendlyNeighborhoodNeighboreeno
Farm/farmer is a noun. FarmING is a verb. Source: Live in rural Wisconsin where everyone and their mom are farmers.
ImAChiquitaBanana
You could also say "I have to farm the land" which would make "farm" a verb. English is weird. It isn't as definitive as you're trying (2)
ImAChiquitaBanana
to suggest that it is. Farm/farming can flip from being a verb or a noun depending on context. Just like affect/effect. (3)
YourFriendlyNeighborhoodNeighboreeno
Verbs can be used as gerunds, I know. I'm really sorry, I didn't know I hurt people so much with this. I don't disagree with you at all.
ImAChiquitaBanana
Hey I used to live there too. Farming is a noun. As in "Farming is what my family has done for generations." There, it is a noun. (1)
AManNeedsANewUsername
Except farming is a verb.
IAmTheBadW01f
Tell that to my grandfather....took out a loan to buy farmland and start farming on the weekends, scaled it up, quit his job, been farming 1
IAmTheBadW01f
Full time since. He's well into his 80s and could have retried comfortably years ago just by cash renting his land, but he enjoys it. 2
my90srapnameispoodrizzle
Years ago, land was cheaper. My family farms, but if we hadn't inherited our land it wouldn't be feasible.
IAmTheBadW01f
I'll give you that....my argument was against the "poor starving farmer" stereotype, which my grandfather is a great counterexample to
stalinomatic
Pretty much sums it up, fucking city people.
Monochromatism
And the worst part is, they have the nerve to complain about wages that would have you damn near set for life.
CigaretteMan
Take that commie crap elsewhere, comrade.
matchstickmetropolis
Everybody complains about everything. I'm not belittling a farmer's problems, but people bitch.
stalinomatic
Are you saying city wages would set a farmer for life? Ever see list price on a combine?
DavidBrooker
The purchasing power of money varies by location.
mynamesjeffshortforjerrithan
True but prices in cities tend to be higher...
Droppedmywispa
There are some rich ass farmers... and some poor ass farmers
Sekai
I didn't know ass was a viable crop
HairytheSheep
Rich ass farmers inherited their wealth and land
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HairytheSheep
No one today started farming without already having a farm and money in the family. Its almost not possible to start from scratch and profit
Jokesterwild
yep, dairy farmers in Canada do fine.
donavahn6788
Is no one going to point out that farming, as depicted by this shirt, is a noun, not a verb?
Greaticalia164
I believe it's a gerund and shit I don't know if you'd call it a verb or a noun
DrHouseSynch
They farm while they should be learnin'
moxymox
"FARM-ING, noun," says the shirt.
Biteymcbiteface
It's quite clearly pointed out
goodgodgetagripgirl
Definitions that start with articles (a, an, the) are nouns; definitions that start with "to..." are verbs.
HappyEngineer
Writing as hard isn't it?
RobertEmmet
It's a gerund, which functions as a noun. Gerunds are versions of verbs that work like nouns so you can talk about them as a concept.
lostulsterman
FuturePerfectTense
Check out the big brain on Brad!
SomeWeirdGuyOnTheInternet
But his name is Bob....
raindropped
I didn't know farmers wanted to kill me. Suddenly my plan to go to the Sunday farmer's market seems a lot more daring.
mellowdrama
+1 for joking while all the pitchforks are out.
raindropped
Challenge accepted.
Equinox13
The biggest threats at the farmers market are the old ladies hawking expensive jewelry. Do not make eye contact. Do not stop. Flee.
Paintmanusa
My neighbor grew up on a farm. Once the crop gets stored, even organic, it gets sprayed w/ pesticides. So, be brave, farmers markets are OK.
iCanClimbThat
I grew up in Farm country. Every farmer. And i MEAN EVERY farmer was/is rich. They bust their asses for 4-5 months and then vacation 1/?
iCanClimbThat
All winter long. I went to school with nothing but farmers and majority of them got brand new 4 door pickups for their first vehicle. 2/?
iCanClimbThat
Saying that they don't make money is down right outrageous. Maybe the farming is different in other places but they've got it made here
vaunkerjack
Its different in other places. In my 36 years alive my dad has taken 3 vacation, all under 1 week (fam reunion, helped sis move, disney)/1
vaunkerjack
Worked 10 hour swing shifts at an aluminium plant for 36 years, and his main pickup is still a '72 chevy he bought new in 72. [/2]
vaunkerjack
The thing is barring one other farmer that quit 2 years ago, he is the biggest and most successful farmer probably in the county. [/3]
Zjaj
One thing to keep in mind though, is the idea that farmers are poor is about 30yrs old because farmers are facking rich nowadays.
moxymox
Thanks for fulfilling my daily allowance for stupidity. I can put Trump's tweets away now.
CigaretteMan
...Where did you get that idea?
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TisNagim
in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. Farmer is rich because everyone else can't make money
Zjaj
I live in rural Midwest and the richest amount get the community are farmers. That's where.
Zjaj
Richest amongst the community are farmers*****
CigaretteMan
Sure isn't universal. I live in upstate NY and there are wealthy farmers, but most are just slightly above getting by.
InconspicuousJavert
Same in Idaho. Also, you're lucky as hell if you make it some years with rainfall/drought, diseases, or other risks. Not exactly "easy"
CigaretteMan
And the physical aspect of it. I went to school with a kid who worked on a small farm. Poor bastard pretty much had arthritis by ~18/19.
InconspicuousJavert
As a farmer where can I get in on this money?
Zjaj
If you're a farmer that has financial issues then you are not a good farmer. Find a new line of work.
Zjaj
....Or find ways to expand.
InconspicuousJavert
Very simplistic view of it.
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matchstickmetropolis
Yikes! Farming is more dangerous than I knew. Explosive crops? Count me out!
PiffTheMagicDildo
As someone who works with farmers daily, they're paid hefty sums not to grow things.. I thought it was a myth but it is true.
FapitalistPig
Talk to the invisible hand of the free market.
Mooninites
Hahahahaha! Losing money.... hahahaha.... HAHAHAHAHAAAAHAAAA!!!
newworldtraveller
Fucking Adam Smith. He came up with the labor theory of value that Marxism is based on too.
causality
The sheer mass of subsidies hovering over the agricultural market means it's the furthest thing from free.
Insomnia297
We don't want food, we want the new iphone11sc+ active color edition
GapingAnalCavity
No. I demand society make my particular business model profitable or else I shall get very smug.
mcupobob
Yeah, god forbid the people that make food don't live in poverty.
Ranger12
They don't where I'm from
HolyOldMackinaw
Agriculture currently is a far cry from the free market. Subsidies and regulations heavily favor large agribusiness.
override367
Yeah but removal of the subsidies wouldn't make smaller farms... better, although id love to see the subsidies all go to small farms instead
khora
Rewarding inefficiencies. That would probably be a good thing at this point.
override367
smaller farms tend to treat their animals better and be more environmentally sustainable because they care about more than next quarter
SoupCanMan
Then when we get a dustbowl, it's all tears and sadness (market control is one of the bigger wieners in the soup of agriculture )
khora
Should have thought about that before you decided to not buy a lobbyist.
WhatzitTooya
So, nothing would change if you switch to a free market?
BluBoxx
It would get worse...
khora
Somehow politicians cares about securing food supplies. Unless you are Mugabe.
popedouglas
The goal of the government should always be cheap, plentiful food for its citizens.
finninthejakesuit
Good point. +1
FapitalistPig
Unregulated market will always result in emergence of big players who will use gained wealth and influence to rig the game in their favor.
finninthejakesuit
True, but what if we simply outlawed government subsidies? I am sure I am oversimplifying here, but still I am curious.
finninthejakesuit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chaf5NHEuYM
SomewhatOxygenated
A country is *supposed* to have strict anti-trust laws to protect it's market. But I guess that's somehow mean to the poor bilionairs.
PerhapsAnotherPerspective
So out of curiosity, are you implying the US doesn't have strict antitrust laws? And how would you define the proper level of strictness?
glutenfreetoast
Not him, but Europe has stricter antitrust laws than the US. However, such laws aren't necessarily meant to induce perfect competition->
CycloneSP
*cough* american ISPs *cough*
MrBlessThisMess
I was ass over head changing the water pump in a 78 Massey-Ferguson earlier this week. +1
engineerofdeath
Idk. I know quiet a few corn farmers and they do very well for themselves. Obviously there are ups and downs but still....
FoxVoxDK
Some people fear gluten so much, that you could probably rob them at loaf point.
hinro133
This is stupid
nabacular
what if you are a marijuana farmer
shimmernshine
Then you're breaking federal law and everything you have can be taken away in the blink of an eye if someone 2,000 miles away feels like it.
DrHouseSynch
>losing money. How in the world of incredible massive subsidies for farmers did you pull off LOSING money?
NowDoThatVoodooThatYouDo
Because 75% of farm subsidies go to the wealthiest 10% of agribusiness. "Farmers" (individuals and local co-ops) see very little of that.
HairytheSheep
Up untill about 15-20 years ago, any farmer could get rich off tobacco until they changed the way its bought/sold. Corn doesn't get yourich
TisNagim
the smaller farmer loses out to seed corporations, the "big farmer" has enough money to cut deals and max the subsidy produce
bsmusic
What country are you in? Not every country allocates subsidies to farmers
SomewhatOxygenated
Big players like Wall-Mart can force farmers to sell their crops below cost for some time by threatening to cut them off permanently
SilentScreamsX
If you're working 400 hours a month, you're doing farming wrong.
frzn
Yeah that's 13-14 hour days, every day. Plant an employee seed and harvest some help, guy.
YourMemeSucksHarderThanaDyson
I love this sweatshirt because in the illustration is corn. One of the so called foods grown by farmers that is killing the industry.
YourMemeSucksHarderThanaDyson
Farmers have become obsessed with acreage and not just growing food that people can eat.
TisNagim
because thanks to gov't subsidies, that's where the money is, and as the growing population grows poorer, cheaper to import than grow here
YourMemeSucksHarderThanaDyson
Which is stupid because sure they get a check every year based on how much they plant. But farmers that produce organic foods for farm to 1/
YourMemeSucksHarderThanaDyson
Table restaurants can earn upwards of 22k per acre per yr. Vs the conventional corn or soy farmer who earns about 400 per acre
ballsohard2202
As the other guy said, it's more expensive to produce organic, and another factor is that a large part of corn goes to animal feed not ppl
TisNagim
organic is also more limited by what they can do per acre and how many acres they can work. and they have a higher "investment" cost
ballsohard2202
Well animal feed and ethanol.
Manbunbro
Losing money but own $11.5 million in land plus over 1mil in machinery.
tirogrande
Including that $250k motorhome they take to So. Cal in the winter.
farmguy69
Try making payments on all that
Manbunbro
Common saying is that farmers die land rich but money poor. However, farming can be extremely lucrative if you know what you're doing.
farmguy69
As a farmer of 50+ yrs, I have a lot of experience and views. Too many comments here from people who do not know crap about farming
frzn
Make your own post.
Manbunbro
Me being one of them?
farmguy69
No idea
merdock379
Who thinks farmers are trying to kill us?
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blowingsmokewithkimbo7
Fuck Monsanto
lamoinejeff
PETA
datbananaboii
Not all farmers, necessarily - but a lot of immigrants (particularly undocumented ones) who work on farms for minimum wage or less.
somethinglikeausername
There was that fecal matter incident with the spinach or something a while back.
callmethelizardqueen
Organic spinach
SaraFourImgur
Ever seen children of the corn?
Allofyoush
What?
ReleaseTheBeeees
Cunts
turnip001
I saw this movie about killer tomatoes once. Or at least, I saw the intro then fell asleep.
NotAPervert
The same fucking idiots who think farming is a noun.
NotAPervert
Alright, I'm fair to say I'm half wrong. As in, if it's a gerund, it should be labeled as such. It's not a standard noun.
neoninja2
Well the future farmers of America hasn't helped minorities think farmers are on their side.
JonnySucio
Most farmers I know are Mexican or employ Mexicans
peketu
The people who need to be killed, mostly
Cosmogonic
great thinking, i guess you're about to murder all the countries that banned monsanto?
peketu
So, either I take that back or genocide. You're not making this easy.
peketu
May I use the "mostly" card, please?
pandy91
The anti-gmo, anti-science March against Monsanto activists
Silverwingedfluff
Just whisper "Wheat Field" and watch the gluten phobes run.
lordkickass
I live in an agriculture zoned area, and should have seen the shitstorm when my neighbor wanted to put a pig barn up. Lawn signs, petitions>
lordkickass
Letters to the editor of our local paper, water testing, the whole 9 yards
lordkickass
@merdock379 found 'em
Cosmogonic
because pigs are generating a metric fuckton of pollution and they smell bad.
lordkickass
But bacon doesn't grow on trees
Cosmogonic
so does cancer and water poisonning.
DavidBrooker
Robert Pickton's victims, probably.
jbcars4life
Paranoid snowflakes are scared of everything
Cosmogonic
dont mix snowflakes with people dying of cancer, thanks.
adam1111
The amount of disturbingly bluepilled morons in this comment thread makes me equal parts miserable and furious
moxymox
Look at all the responses and yet a complete lack of answers. This is why Trump won.
TSwit
mellowdrama
Interesting propaganda by the Monsanto folks.
ViciousOtter
After reading a lot of comments I'm really concerned... It's kinda crazy for me, they put anti GMOs and anti vaxxer on the same level.. shit
ViciousOtter
Everyfuckingwhere in the world there are more and more concerns about GMO and chemicals, but you can get beaten by an american for that.
mellowdrama
To know what's going on with GMO in the world, subscribe to gmwatch dot eu
mellowdrama
Of course there are concerns. To be so egotistical that they think they can mess with DNA without truly understanding DNA is insane.
ViciousOtter
Even without talking about DNA, there are enough examples of fails, indian GMO cotton, mexican corn contaminations by "sterile" crops...
IDontKnowWhatToDoAnymoreAndImTired
Because studies have debunked both sets of fears. And they're both based on "this isn't natural therefore I'm afraid of it."
Sirsir94
They are the reason for daylight savings time. Nuff said
earlofhoundstooth
LOL, when Indiana was talking about switching to daylight savings time (they didn't have it til a few years ago), the farmers said we 1/2
earlofhoundstooth
2/2 have nothing to do with this. We get up when the sun comes up.
dazedNconfuzed
Anyone who visibly cringes if you say "Monsanto".
GoIIum
Well Monsanto is a pretty evil company, but I wouldn't blame the farmers for that.
Cosmogonic
anyone who claims glyphosphate is harmless when used extensively to use monsanto crops. douchebag.
dazedNconfuzed
I was answering a question, not expressing an opinion. douchebag.
Cosmogonic
you were. douchebag. monsanto's lack of transparency and evil corp grade freak lawsuits make for a poor rep and a lot of fuel for 1/
Cosmogonic
anti gmo lobbies, which more than often miss the point and the real dangers coming from sterile crops and soil pollution/contamination. 2/
BigVag
have you heard of cauliflower? that is some evil shit a farmer is growing
Deadlyfire
Cauliflower ear is even worse. It's like they grew that one in a lab
Sekai
It's like the broccoli of the damned
dcs1326
Love it. Stealing it
Buckbeak1486
Cauliflower is amazing!
Duder87
Especially with a cheese sauce.
Buckbeak1486
Broccoli & cheese, and cauliflower & cheese are great!
Dhmx
Yeah, Cauliflower is fantastic at soaking up flavors so you can even make great burgers with it by marinating and roasting them in the oven
Belatorius
Makes pretty ballin fake mash potatoes
Buckbeak1486
Yea they do!
degenerator
What are you, a farmer?!
Buckbeak1486
No, but I live on 11.31 acres.
BoozeHound001
cauliflower? more like killiflower!
imheretostirthepot
AWESOMEBOT
Beets
zma123456
Agreed.
imheretostirthepot
Sirtopumhat
Beets beat bears.
88PeppyPeppers
Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica
TSwit
WHAT IS HAPPENING?
BannedAcc1
I'll trade you 1 shrute buck for 1,000 Stanley nickels
SPQAAE
What's the conversion rate of Stanley Nickles to Shrute Bucks?
BannedAcc1
The same as the ratio of unicorns to leprechauns
icantbelievethiswasavailable
Assholes
IsACouchASeat
Vegans have put out a lot of stuff about cattle killing the planet.
AxelYamanaka
I have no idea. I mean, it's clearly the Lumbermills with the blood lust. Damn thing took my Grandfather.
alitlebitofhoney
The system
secretoaster
TSwit
zappyguy
MapleLeafEagle
Anti-GMO people.
hadji
I'm anti-GMO and I don't think farmers are trying to kill us. Or that GMOs will kill us. Take off your biases please.
Jokesterwild
lol you are not the majority unfortunately
aggressivefiretruck
Triggered.
GadenKerensky
Those downvotes, in two hours... ho-lee shit.
GodEmperorOfImgur
Your personal anecdotes do not invalidate a larger trend. Do you also believe that a cold winter means no global warming?
TheBlackWindHowls
It's not his bias. Who else but anti-GMO folks, or at least a paranoid section of them, would believe farmers are trying to kill us?
JohnnyTitelips
Federalists.
hardytardigrade
I'm not sure, I though that was the question. The shirt implies that everyone who eats farmed food thinks farmers are trying to kill them.
drapester
I would love to know why you're anti-GMO.
Cosmogonic
-90? are you guys insane?
Etienneee
Dissent is not tolerated here.
MrBananaBeak
I'm quite happy to see anti-scientific bullshit be put where it belongs.
MTVMovieAwardBestKisswinnerTobeyMaguire
Anyone who tells you GMOs are bad.
Cosmogonic
they are. via the pesticides they require and the fact they are sterile. just look up glyphosate and tell me you want to eat some.
valdemarjoergensen
GMO does not equal pesticides, separate technologies. It's like saying steel's dangerous because you can put gun powder in it and make a gun
Cosmogonic
in monsanto's case, the gmo is more like a casing and the pesticides the bullet.
valdemarjoergensen
monsanto is a terrible thing. But is only an example
MTVMovieAwardBestKisswinnerTobeyMaguire
Lol go look at what a non GMO piece of corn looks like. It's the size of your finger. More than 95% of the food you eat has been engineered.
Cosmogonic
find a gmo that doesnt require pesticide (and there's a few) to grow and we'll talk. most of corn is for ethanol, not eating.
Cosmogonic
also, you dear sack, i never critiqued engineered veggies. carrots would still be white and beet would never produce sugar otherwise.
MTVMovieAwardBestKisswinnerTobeyMaguire
Lolol you're fun. Call me more names. It'll make you feel better.
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slitlily
Did it occur to you that some nonzero percentage of those on assistance can't do physically taxing labor? Or bring their kids with?
cbaggs32
You speak the trith. Imgur can't handle the truth. Be strong brother/sister.
NextToNobody
No, it was an opinion. You can't just pick and choose things as you wish to be "truths", mate, critical thinking and all that
cbaggs32
Wtf are you talking about? And what on that shirt wasn't true? Unless your talking about my comment specifically.
BardicLasher
I'd venture to guess that most of the unemployed and most of the farmland aren't in the same place.
SwitchPup
I was unemployed in my early 20s. I tried to apply at a labor office that managed agricultural/manual labor type jobs. They wouldn't accept
SwitchPup
my application but wouldn't say why. Meanwhile I watch then accept applications from several men of different races, all 10-20 years older
SwitchPup
than me. I was too young to realize that I was being discriminated against for being a young white girl. Moral of the story, sometimes even
SwitchPup
the people who WANT the job can't see to get it...
callmethelizardqueen
My husband comes from NOCAL where there's a lot of farms, tried to get a job when in want 20s, was told they don't want "white guys"
SwitchPup
Yeah, they want white GIRLS even less. Like...yeah, maybe I wouldn't have been able to keep up...but give me a chance, at least?
callmethelizardqueen
You would have kept up, its the most basic of manual labor, if you have a strong back you can do it. My gramma used to pick cotton w/o issue
JohnnyDeformed
People who are anti gmo, anti gluten for no reason, or think food that isn't organic & expensive must be bad for you cause pesticides etc.
clownfarts
There are legitimate health concerns for some people consuming gluten.
FogOfWar122
Such as celiac disease
clownfarts
For ignorant downvoting douchebags: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/807390
clownfarts
And Autism symptoms are known to be exasperated by Gluten.
AlphaFoxtrotNW
I am only anti gluten because the issue is that its to such a level where its not compatible to the human body. Ancient wheat is better for1
AlphaFoxtrotNW
the human frame because it causes less damage. As far as pesticides go, they should be used in a way that does not compromise the ability 2
AlphaFoxtrotNW
to be consumed. GMOs are also ok such as making crops bulletproof against a climate as long as they are not detremental on the human body.
aesthesia1
food should be more expensive. Corporate farming practices are the direct cause of the disappearance of small farms. something like 80% /1
aesthesia1
of agricultural land is owned by very few huge companies who benefit from subsidies and choke out small farmers by undercutting actual /2
aesthesia1
value of food. GMO'S aren't directly harmful, but specific GMO'S have played a role in impoverishment of farmers. In case you didn't know/3
aesthesia1
farmers have been in a state of suicidal crisis fire decades now, as small farms fail, and the last resort is to commit suicide so the /4
IDontKnowWhatToDoAnymoreAndImTired
Food being cheap is not a problem. Nobody argues that we should ban cars to bring back buggy whip makers. Things change.
aesthesia1
Yes it is. Intensive agriculture sells food below value in a way that destroys smaller farms and the environment too. It's a lose/lose.
AtmaWepn
Well making food suddenly more expensive is a lose-and-die for everybody in the entire US who makes minimum wage. Who the farmers gonna
fusk
Herbicides, pesticides I guess.
valdemarjoergensen
Pesticide is a umbrella term describing several things including herbicides, insecticides, fungicides and bactericides. The more you know.
TimTheEnchanter01
Both water soluble, which is why it's recommended you wash your fruits and veggies.
ihaveacatonmyshoulders
And actually doing more harm to the farmers than the consumers.
Hannya
No one ever said the people were right..
ViciousOtter
It can't go through the skin of the fruits and veggies ? Since t's water soluble and they are both like 90% water ?
TimTheEnchanter01
Most of the commonly used ones are designed not to penetrate the skin and wash off with the first rainfall, washing is still recommended.
Cosmogonic
but you wont escape a certain "legal" percentage. look up the pesticide laws in your state/country.