But how will we foster a sense of subservience to a higher power so that we can manipulate them to vote against their interests utilizing deep-seated racial hatred and bigotry?
So many people shouting about mind control. How many times would saying the pledge over and over make you a forcible good patriot? If the 10 commandments is in your vicinity, does somehow it radiate into your brain? Kids are younger but they're not THAT malleable. Saying words and never discussing their meaning isn't going to make them obedient patriots more than knowing Blackpink song lyrics turns them into South Korea loyalists.
If a poster about something actually changed minds like people are saying here? I would never have to field "what are we doing today" or "where can I get a pencil" or being asked out loud if students can go to the bathroom
Y'all pledge to it and the republic for which it stands but clearly less than half actually meant it. You have a sitting president who has taken several shits on your constitution with no real threat of reprisal of any kind.
"But... but comminizm... FOX sez duh comminists dun wanna take yer munny an feed da kidz wit it so dey becum comminists too..." You know the rationale if you give people free stuff it makes them freeloading godless communists... unless that stuff is jet skis, vacations or iPhones with the attached promise of "A chance to win" the items... then that's gennyin jeezus apruved maricun captillizim!
I love when the so many people walk out on the same limb, and no one on any board of education has their car explode. I can’t imagine why they would keep shitting all over people.
Government officials should have to state the pledge of allegiance every day. Unfortunately, they don't really care for it, and it is little more than lip service.
Food costs money. A paper showing the 10 commandments costs next to nothing. They only care about money and if a group of under privileged, struggling people gets hurt in the process then they are happy.
I'm baffled there are that many people with kids and apparently can't feed them before school or send them with a lunch. If you can't afford to do the basic thing of feeding your child (what happens in summer breaks?) you should not have children. School should not be your babysitter that feeds and raises your kids without funding from... The parents. Not everyone else including people who don't have kids because they can't afford it. So they gotta pay higher taxes with no child tax credits.
@OP Let's be honest about those commandments first? Originally, there were 613 of those stupid things. Some of them were so preposterous and clearly not divine, so they were culled and only 10 survived the cut that people would actually follow. It's directly a situation where super control was intended, then they said, "What about just these 10?" Who does that remind you of? MAGA's!
But then you are rewarding bad parents who are just bumming off the system and not taking care of their own kids!!1! Also, parents are the best and only people who should be in charge of their kid's education!!! /S
Wife is an Arkansas teacher. Her in god we trust poster has been behind a cabinet shelf the whole time. She's running out of furniture to stash the christofascist propaganda with.
The FBI fought against breakfast for children because it was an initiative first brought forth by the Black Panthers. Since the FBI was led by J. Edgar Hoover at the time, one of America's greatest monsters, that was of course unacceptable.
On a quick read of your comment, it wasn't clear to me that Reagan was pro-NRA when the Black Panthers had guns. It almost sounded like he was anti-firearms. Probably just because I scanned it quick in the context of the OP ("they were against because of ")
putting the 10 commandments in classrooms and saying the pledge has nothing to do with educating children and honestly its weird that anyone believes that it does.
Of course it does and it's not weird to believe the truth. It shows the legislative objectives , education vs indoctrination and they choose to prioritize indoctrination. Pretty simple analogy. They could do both, but fed children learn better and then they begin to think for themselves and maybe God and country wouldn't come first. Maybe compassion, empathy and equality would win out. No sense it taking a chance.
So... education then? Not quite an /S comment. All education is plotted out by the ruling classes, be they private institutions or public, there is an agenda, a brand of Brainwash, in every decision of what to teach in the official curriculum.
I dont think the people enforcing it think it actually helps educate children, but it furthers their narrative of control and "america/jesus good, everything else bad." Good little boys and girls who say their prayers and pledge turn into good little adults who do not question authoritarian policies because if it is done in the name of america or jesus it cant be bad
I think youre giving them to much credit. The majority of people who support this absolutely think it helps. I even have seen posts and heard people talking about how the reason there is school shootings is because we don't have Jesus in schools.
I need you to understand that only the most mouth breathing of mouth breathers thinks this. No one in actual charge of anything. This is the equivalent of the deep state that the Republicans believe is trying to destroy them when it's just remembering a clip said 7 months ago.
Jesus plays well to the base. Base being happy gets votes. Votes get power. Lunches cost money, spending money there keeps you from paying back the big forces in power. Sometimes you're lucky and you create a distraction.
As a teacher, I can confirm that most have no idea what most of it really means. It's just something they have to parrot every day. I'm surprised admin never found out I didn't do the the pledge with the kids or even have a flag in my room for a whole year.
I don’t make mine say the pledge but it comes over the intercom. I told them the story of the enterprising flag salesmen in the 50s and allow them to opt out of the pledge if they do it respectfully. That way I teach them how to resist in a respectful, positive way.
Which they already get in the presence of children. So it’s redundant to have to 10 commandments. Especially when it’s “mandatory little girls’ genitals inspection day” to make sure everyone playing middle school girls’ badminton meets their unscientific definition of “a girl.”
Ive got family that's a principal at a lower income elementary school. There is a huge issue with the kids socially accepting the food. It has gotten so bad from bullying that they sit all the kids facing away from eachother so they can eat without being made fun of for eating the "poor" food. CA school
Du they do a before school breakfast club? Really common here (Oz), let's you check in with the kids who need to rely on school for food (it's more likely to be neglect than poverty here)
if you dig up the origins of the FDA... you're in for a shock. they used to be poisons used in food to hide the rot and make them look nicer... embalming fluid, chalk, a copper coumpound that's litteraly poisonous... and they wondered why kids where dropping left and right... even adult humans. its also why usa food is banned in europe (for hundreds of years) and how the whole 'bacterias are all bad' scam started: payback to stop european food to get in the market.
And today the US produces "chlorine washed chicken" which is banned in UK and Europe. And most American beef doesn't make the grade either because American farmers routinely use hormones and antibiotics that aren't allowed there either.
in europe the solution to livestocks being unhealty and carrying desease was to try to stop mass production farms and go with more open fields and better living conditions... the usa... feed them antibiotics, creating super resistant deseases.. and needing to chlorine wash... >_< but also eggs: they are all white in the us cause they get washed, thus damaging the shell and making it porous to bacterias, needing cold storage and transport... adding to the cost.
lordyhalvey
It's not about being kind. It's about control.
Bugdaze
Perhaps they would also like to bring back the Bellamy salute as well https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute
WolfgangVonTittySprinkles
NightOwlRally
But how will we foster a sense of subservience to a higher power so that we can manipulate them to vote against their interests utilizing deep-seated racial hatred and bigotry?
And you want to just feed kids? SOSHALISM.
Big ol /S
AranaDiscoteca
So many people shouting about mind control. How many times would saying the pledge over and over make you a forcible good patriot? If the 10 commandments is in your vicinity, does somehow it radiate into your brain? Kids are younger but they're not THAT malleable. Saying words and never discussing their meaning isn't going to make them obedient patriots more than knowing Blackpink song lyrics turns them into South Korea loyalists.
AranaDiscoteca
If a poster about something actually changed minds like people are saying here? I would never have to field "what are we doing today" or "where can I get a pencil" or being asked out loud if students can go to the bathroom
LebistusReticulatis
Why is there not a first commandment “you should feed the poor”?
hellothisispeggy
It's not a commandment but it at least does say a whole bunch of times to feed the poor. They just ignore those parts.
CatEyebrows
We are the only developing nation that pledges allegiance to our flag. It’s so weird and brain washy.
Fuck this piece of shit country
ZoidbergIsGreat
Y'all pledge to it and the republic for which it stands but clearly less than half actually meant it. You have a sitting president who has taken several shits on your constitution with no real threat of reprisal of any kind.
CallMeMcGyver
"But... but comminizm... FOX sez duh comminists dun wanna take yer munny an feed da kidz wit it so dey becum comminists too..." You know the rationale if you give people free stuff it makes them freeloading godless communists... unless that stuff is jet skis, vacations or iPhones with the attached promise of "A chance to win" the items... then that's gennyin jeezus apruved maricun captillizim!
ghostofGracchusBabeuf
I wonder just taking care of such basic needs would reduce the number of school shootings? No idea, really but it’s worth a try.
StarscreamAndHutch
Regressives don’t want our kids to be smarter. They want them to be gullible - in all ways.
Eyeetsass
I love when the so many people walk out on the same limb, and no one on any board of education has their car explode. I can’t imagine why they would keep shitting all over people.
lurkyloos
Unfortunate500
Instead of free lunch a "christian" would put up this sign:
Blessed are you who hunger now, for you will be satisfied.
Kingdomonsterdeath
Government officials should have to state the pledge of allegiance every day. Unfortunately, they don't really care for it, and it is little more than lip service.
LordNev
Some body has to pay for it these "free" lunches Why do I need to when I elected to not have children? Just a thought......
xj4low
Food costs money. A paper showing the 10 commandments costs next to nothing. They only care about money and if a group of under privileged, struggling people gets hurt in the process then they are happy.
cgt9803
They don't want educated students. They want to bully and feel superior while not costing them anything.
expectnothingstillletdown
To further clarify- they're not trying to educate kids, they're trying to indoctrinate them. Obedient citizens matter more to them than educated ones.
AranaDiscoteca
They do not even care enough to indoctrinate. One sounds good to their base and the other costs money. That's it.
InfantofPrague
I'm baffled there are that many people with kids and apparently can't feed them before school or send them with a lunch. If you can't afford to do the basic thing of feeding your child (what happens in summer breaks?) you should not have children. School should not be your babysitter that feeds and raises your kids without funding from... The parents. Not everyone else including people who don't have kids because they can't afford it. So they gotta pay higher taxes with no child tax credits.
Axiomatic13
@OP Let's be honest about those commandments first? Originally, there were 613 of those stupid things. Some of them were so preposterous and clearly not divine, so they were culled and only 10 survived the cut that people would actually follow. It's directly a situation where super control was intended, then they said, "What about just these 10?" Who does that remind you of? MAGA's!
Drix1942
I like Santa. At least believing in him got me something. Jesus bs only ever got me believing priests were good guys, lol. #notadragqueen
Zixtank
Yes, but that isn't the intention.
justherefortheconfession
But a poster is much cheaper
khora
They are donated by churches.
AllTheGoodOnesAreTaken68
Few things are more expensive than living in an uneducated society.
AshtonNight
I have told my son he doesn't have to do the pledge of allegiance, but sadly, he only does it because he doesn't want to bring attention to himself.
Noahbalboa82
But then you are rewarding bad parents who are just bumming off the system and not taking care of their own kids!!1! Also, parents are the best and only people who should be in charge of their kid's education!!! /S
Vidikron
Wife is an Arkansas teacher. Her in god we trust poster has been behind a cabinet shelf the whole time. She's running out of furniture to stash the christofascist propaganda with.
Sechran
The FBI fought against breakfast for children because it was an initiative first brought forth by the Black Panthers. Since the FBI was led by J. Edgar Hoover at the time, one of America's greatest monsters, that was of course unacceptable.
Nofoxlefttogive
One of America's greatest monsters until now.
ImgursLibertarian
Trump has NOTHING on Jackson or Wilson. I'd argue he's not even quite in the top 5 worst POTUS. Top 10 for sure.
ImgursLibertarian
He's just foolishly self serving. Not actively evil.
ImgursLibertarian
Same thing with firearms, when Reagan and the NRA didn't like the black panthers having guns.
d1d1t4t3hlulz0hl4wdy
LMFTFY: The NRA didn't like black people having guns. - Also, they still don't, racist small dicked pricks every last one of them.
ImgursLibertarian
I don't know how I didn't already imply that with my message.
matrixphreak
On a quick read of your comment, it wasn't clear to me that Reagan was pro-NRA when the Black Panthers had guns. It almost sounded like he was anti-firearms. Probably just because I scanned it quick in the context of the OP ("they were against because of ")
IndependenceHallPhiladelphiaPA
putting the 10 commandments in classrooms and saying the pledge has nothing to do with educating children and honestly its weird that anyone believes that it does.
Simusar
The 10 commandments and pledge are for indoctrination, not education.
rowzdowr
Sure it does, if you purposely conflate education with indoctrination...
suelbj6
Of course it does and it's not weird to believe the truth. It shows the legislative objectives , education vs indoctrination and they choose to prioritize indoctrination. Pretty simple analogy. They could do both, but fed children learn better and then they begin to think for themselves and maybe God and country wouldn't come first. Maybe compassion, empathy and equality would win out. No sense it taking a chance.
miakkamisfit
It is “educating” them in an Orwellian way.
Noahbalboa82
Yeah, math I use every day. I've never had to know the pledge of allegiance in my every day life
mas0chist
It's brainwashing
Wapusk
So... education then?
Not quite an /S comment. All education is plotted out by the ruling classes, be they private institutions or public, there is an agenda, a brand of Brainwash, in every decision of what to teach in the official curriculum.
kimbozo
I dont think the people enforcing it think it actually helps educate children, but it furthers their narrative of control and "america/jesus good, everything else bad." Good little boys and girls who say their prayers and pledge turn into good little adults who do not question authoritarian policies because if it is done in the name of america or jesus it cant be bad
Findrek
I think youre giving them to much credit. The majority of people who support this absolutely think it helps. I even have seen posts and heard people talking about how the reason there is school shootings is because we don't have Jesus in schools.
The ones in powers do it to pander to the idiots.
AranaDiscoteca
I need you to understand that only the most mouth breathing of mouth breathers thinks this. No one in actual charge of anything. This is the equivalent of the deep state that the Republicans believe is trying to destroy them when it's just remembering a clip said 7 months ago.
Jesus plays well to the base. Base being happy gets votes. Votes get power. Lunches cost money, spending money there keeps you from paying back the big forces in power. Sometimes you're lucky and you create a distraction.
wguk6ua9y22718
Spot-on!
TheGreatSynan
As a teacher, I can confirm that most have no idea what most of it really means. It's just something they have to parrot every day. I'm surprised admin never found out I didn't do the the pledge with the kids or even have a flag in my room for a whole year.
Sticklebrickk
BECAUSE ITS THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH
donutposse11337
I don’t make mine say the pledge but it comes over the intercom. I told them the story of the enterprising flag salesmen in the 50s and allow them to opt out of the pledge if they do it respectfully. That way I teach them how to resist in a respectful, positive way.
Doismellbacon
-resistance- +1!
wguk6ua9y22718
Bravo! You are SO appreciated for engaging your students in a meaningful way!
AranaDiscoteca
Is this sarcastic or honest? Real question, I cannot tell.
wguk6ua9y22718
>HONEST<
ps238principal
Yes, but only one of those two gives conservatives an erection.
alittleglassvial
It’s the child, right
x3mxs
The kids!??
unfortunatelynotdeadyet
It’s the starving kids isn’t it.
powwerbottom
The "kids" part
fartharder
The one where kids go hungry?
RoseTheSpecialEdTeacher
Unfortunately, it's just the kids themselves that seems to to that to those freaks.
donutposse11337
Which they already get in the presence of children. So it’s redundant to have to 10 commandments. Especially when it’s “mandatory little girls’ genitals inspection day” to make sure everyone playing middle school girls’ badminton meets their unscientific definition of “a girl.”
katolu
Well, that and all of the kids shot to death, cowering in fear in their classrooms.
chewmaca2
And they want them to say a pledge to a government and a god that allows it to happen.
vegivamp
Kids in generally, in fact.
katolu
Oh yeah, the genital checks in the bathrooms.
Leaveittojebus
It's all business, why hurt the gun industry when you can create a new industry of kids sized Kevlar vests and backpacks. Capitalism at its finest.
aluminumonkey
Don't forget more kid sized coffins.
noonehasthisoneyet
Who are we kidding? We all know they can’t get erections. That’s why they’re doing this!
cepacolusmaximus
oh, they can, just not when thinking of adults
thehumancorpse
Just because it's small doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
NeverDownvoteMelBrooks
A larger *positive* impact
i2ocker89
Ive got family that's a principal at a lower income elementary school. There is a huge issue with the kids socially accepting the food. It has gotten so bad from bullying that they sit all the kids facing away from eachother so they can eat without being made fun of for eating the "poor" food. CA school
Anfalicious
Du they do a before school breakfast club? Really common here (Oz), let's you check in with the kids who need to rely on school for food (it's more likely to be neglect than poverty here)
Sebastopol140
WholeWheatBunnyHugger
For a government official to oppose school lunches is an act of treason against this country.
OptimisticMisanthrope
You can't expect a magat to learn from history. If they could, they wouldn't be a magat.
Ekibwurm
if you dig up the origins of the FDA... you're in for a shock. they used to be poisons used in food to hide the rot and make them look nicer... embalming fluid, chalk, a copper coumpound that's litteraly poisonous... and they wondered why kids where dropping left and right... even adult humans. its also why usa food is banned in europe (for hundreds of years) and how the whole 'bacterias are all bad' scam started: payback to stop european food to get in the market.
Xalten2
And today the US produces "chlorine washed chicken" which is banned in UK and Europe. And most American beef doesn't make the grade either because American farmers routinely use hormones and antibiotics that aren't allowed there either.
Ekibwurm
in europe the solution to livestocks being unhealty and carrying desease was to try to stop mass production farms and go with more open fields and better living conditions... the usa... feed them antibiotics, creating super resistant deseases.. and needing to chlorine wash... >_< but also eggs: they are all white in the us cause they get washed, thus damaging the shell and making it porous to bacterias, needing cold storage and transport... adding to the cost.
vegivamp
Porous to bacteria, which is why most of the rest of the world looks in confusion at Americans being so weird about raw eggs.