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danielsan1977
I am an "animal activist" but damn, PETA be stupid.
notshrek
WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN MY SWAMP
LokiKingOfJotunheim
Fuck PETA... https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/animal-rights-monkey-selfie-case-may-undo-evolution-of-the-internet/
MooseFoxx
They are infuriating. Just doing shit like this for publicity. Poor guy.
PreciousPotato
Right after shearing, Shrek must have been the most muscular sheep in the country - imagine the strength it takes to carry around all /1
PreciousPotato
that wool. Wished I could go from fat to slim in the same way and just keep the muscles. :)
Shefeto
PETA is stupid but a VAST majority of cows, pigs, and chickens have shit lives. Much worse than what they're pretending a sheep goes through
uzerok
PETA logic: Domesticated sheep have to be sheered because humans made it that way. The humane thing would be to kill them into extinction.
Sumpte
Where do PETA suggest this?
fusselwurm
I've actually heard some otherwise sane animal rights person argue for the extinction of domesticated animals. :/
Insanitydividedbyzero
They don't seem to care that cats and dogs self domesticated. We have mutually beneficial relationships.
morakdais
He was probably bouncing around after getting 60 pounds off his back
SirRogers
I bet he was jacked after carrying all that extra weight for so long
SortaKindaFunny
Jacked as the other Shrek?
Blamblam101
"This sheep survived for 6 years with no weapons and no training.", "Then put him in charge!"
Muad
hah hah
ojakojako
I think you mean "bah bah" ;)
theresgoldinthemtherehills
This shower of wankers kill more animals than any other animal welfare organisation in the world
tzap
Well, if you focus on strays and on animals other shelters don't want or can't keep due to crowding, you'll get higher kill rate than others
chilachinchila
They kidnapped dogs from homes and killed them in less than a day.
tzap
That's a dog, not dogs. Plus it's not systematic to PETA.
plaguedhorse
t. proud PETA member
tzap
Nah, I don't like PETA at all, but I think anti-PETA stuff is about as prone to exaggerating and dishonest propaganda tactics as PETA.
chilachinchila
Sauce:http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5654d2a6e4b0258edb335808
tzap
This is posted like every month. That PETA campaign - local to NZ and Australia - was released in tandem with some videos of abuse in 1/3
GadenKerensky
I think the problem is they attack the consumers instead of the rulebreakers. They should raise awareness, not be the extremists they are.
tzap
(And yeah I get the PETA dislike. I don't like their propaganda tactics either. But can we stop pretending animal husbandry is all saintly?)
tzap
.. some sheep factories. Know what? RSPCA actually launched and investigation and as a result, disqualified and fined four employees. 2/3
FamousOnce
The most disgusting one was the bloody milk.
tzap
http://www.araratadvertiser.com.au/story/4567498/wimmera-shearers-guilty-of-animal-cruelty-charges-fined-and-disqualified/?cs=12 3/3
AmbulanceDriverDude
PETA is more a menace than anything. I wish there was a way we could shut it down
lazybummm
I just went to their website to see if this is an actual ad of theirs, and found out about "mulesing"....???? google it
shitposterfromsg
If you're gonna go to the trouble of googling that, be sure to also google "fly strike"
shitposterfromsg
Here's a link to the wiki article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fly_strike_in_sheep
lazybummm
AHHHHHH!!!!
anitabieror6
I love that they put a wool blanket on him after being shorn. probably takes a minute to acclimate to losing a 60 pound coat
GradiustheFox
If Shrek weighed less than sixty pounds, they were removing a sheep from some wool rather than some wool from a sheep.
catscatscatscat
This ad isn't actually about shearing, it is about muelsing.
GradiustheFox
WikiSez: Mulesing is performed on the hindquarters and tail. Seems like a stretch that it would take chunks out of the sides and forelocks.
catscatscatscat
it is representative of mulesing, I'm not guessing. I worked this campaign about 10-12 years ago when I thought PETA was legit.
GradiustheFox
I get the feeling the definition of "representative" in this case is "Tangentially related, but completely misleading".
catscatscatscat
Actually, it has to do with not wanting to make the campaign about butt jokes and more visible for the way the fella is posed.
AviArts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HN9vngpmk_M The behind the scenes video for better discourse.
Sumpte
Do you actually expect better discourse? People are going to downvote you for not towing the line.
listoCookieSmuggler
They also think cows are killed for their milk
catscatscatscat
That's just not correct, dude. Yea, they're ineffective and alarmist but not completely out to lunch.
PigeonFace
And that milk causes autism, or at least makes it "stronger"
sinkuvapolija
I do't think anyone thinks that.
RyxZeven
To be more precise, that the calves are killed so the mother keeps making milk.
Devilduckie8713
Think they are given formula milk instead.
ratpatoot1e
And then turned into veal.
UsernameTheMusical
Well, male calves are, eventually. Nobody just keeps the calves around.
jfred325350
Technically yes, they are raised as steers and the butchered for meat, but they aren't really calves anymore.
AlexisActually
I mean you don't need a male calf for anything on a dairy. It's agriculture, not a pet store.
InsistYouDesist
They are killed when they stop producing milk. Oh and half their offspring are killed.
Eipi
And they live in exploitation all their -short- lives
InsistYouDesist
To be fair they can be treated well or badly depending on where you are.
Eipi
However, the vast majority of dairy right now comes from factory styled dairy farms. It's up to you to find out if that's true, anyway.
InsistYouDesist
I assume you're American. This is certainly not true globally.
plaguedhorse
It's actually in a dairy's best interest to keep their cows happy and healthy since both affect milk quality.
Eipi
Well, if your mind is at ease thinking that... It's ok. I believe it's up to one's self to try and find out the truth. Have a nice day.
boobcat
Just google vids of newly sheared sheep. They are happy as shit. Jumping around, running and playing like wee lambs, they love it.
Alicecold
My mother have sheep. I have seen sheep get hurt because they *tried* to get sheared before it was their turn. They really do like it.
Alicecold
But remember, sheep are not like that naturally, but because of thousands of years of breeding. Wild sheep would not become like Shrek.
Sumpte
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKNGyUG6XB0 - they all look really happy as shit.
Alicecold
That looks like a really inefficient method to shear a sheep. Almost as if it is set up to look bad instead of actually--- OOooooooh...
Sumpte
http://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2017-03-01/sheep-shearers-plead-guilty-animal-cruelty-western-victoria/8314678 -
Sumpte
"Four men pleaded guilty ... Evidence against the shearers included hidden camera footage obtained by animal rights group PETA." Whoops.
Sumpte
Yeah, people usually try and claim the video is fake rather than admit they might be wrong about something.
Alicecold
Did you just get the worst of them all and implied all is like that?
Sumpte
So now you admit the video is real, downvote anyway (because who likes facts), and are switching your argument to something else.
catscatscatscat
the ad isn't actually about sheering, it is about muelsing.
CthulhusGreasyBallsack
there is also no alternative to mulesing that is more humane, it's either mule them and some short pain, or they die a painful death.
catscatscatscat
http://kb.rspca.org.au/what-is-mulesing-and-what-are-the-alternatives_113.html
CthulhusGreasyBallsack
seems the only feasible alternative in that list in an injection that makes their skin scab off to reveal tight, wrinkle-free skin under it,
catscatscatscat
There are several chemical application options if that is what you consider to be most feasible. Strategic breeding, shearing, crutching 1/2
catscatscatscat
Actually there are a lot of alternatives to mulesing, how did you come to this conclusion?
CthulhusGreasyBallsack
What alternatives are there?
catscatscatscat
here are a couple: http://kb.rspca.org.au/what-is-mulesing-and-what-are-the-alternatives_113.html
CommanderHamDemander
Then there is the whole issue of Fly Strike if they don't get shorn.
Buckbeak1486
Fly Strike...?
CommanderHamDemander
Parasitic maggots that burrow into the sheep's skin. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fly_strike_in_sheep
lyricallove
Not clicking that, but I bet it's awful. :(
CommanderHamDemander
There are no pictures in that article, but yes it is awful.
definitelynotawolf
Don't. They go for the dick
MrWobblyHead
Fuck PETA. Humans have been using animal products for thousands of years and we ain't stopping anytime soon.
lolive246
Yeah man, and I am far from giving up steak and cooked bone marrow.
tzap
As an argument, that's absolutely ridiculous. About as sensical as "We've been raping thousands of years, not gonna stop now!"
MeowsersKitten
so your saying that we ARE going to stop raping people?
tzap
We've been greatly reducing the amount of rape for a long time now.
jamesaps
The old "we've been doing X for so long so we mustn't stop" argument. Because fuck progression, right?
MrWobblyHead
I like eating meat and I'm going to stop. No one is going to change my mind. If people choose not to then I'm not going to make them.
BossCar9
There's far worse shit going on yet they focus on video games.
Sumpte
Yeah, that's pretty fucking stupid. So we should cling onto historical tradition and stubbornly refuse to consider change?
MrWobblyHead
The way I look at it, we are still animals and we eat animals to survive, just like other animals.
Sumpte
Except if humans did half the shit animals did, you'd find it disgusting. Some of us evolved beyond that by having higher intelligence.
MrWobblyHead
Our higher intelligence has allowed us to farm animals rather than running them down and killing them by hand and causing that suffering
Sumpte
2) only 'go so far' and not evolve further is fucking stupid.
Sumpte
1) It also means we can survive without doing so, and have the capability to make moral decisions based on reason. Saying that we should
TheAmanda4life
The only things PETA should work on shutting down is PETCO and PetSmart selling animals and tiny cages
AllMyCommentsAreBad
I love capital letters so that's why I browse Tumblr so much.
VajrapaniP
There is plenty of video documented violence snd abuse on mass production of wool, so this post is dumb as shit.
galsfer06
Reminds me of this http://gizmodo.com/how-greenpeace-wrecked-one-of-the-most-sacred-places-in-1669873583 "Hell is full of good intentions"
GadenKerensky
I just read something related about how Greenpeace helped facilitate the destruction of GMO Rice that would've proven extremely beneficial.
LoZCollector
That's less 'good intentions' and more 'selfish, thoughtless actions'. I stopped donating after that fuckup.
galsfer06
Yeap, I feel you
reluctantlycrouchedatthestartinglineenginespumpingandthumpingin
The highway to hell is paved with good intentions.
galsfer06
Peru's deputy minister (...) actions "thoughtless, insensitive, illegal, irresponsible and absolutely pre-meditated."
galsfer06
In comparison, PETA tried to save sheep but was only able to destroy a little more their brand
TK421isAFK
And the comments "they don't deserve 6 years in prison" - they most certainly do. They are not protected by US laws. Just like that 1/2
YourWaifuIsTrash
To play devil's advocate – comments regarding what is "deserved" usually refer to what the commenter believes is ethically just, not what >
YourWaifuIsTrash
is legally correct. This opinion is also often influenced by the commenter's local laws.
TK421isAFK
That's not playing Devil's Advocate, that's playing Obvious Pedantic.
TK421isAFK
spoiled brat son of the diplomat that thought it would be funny to paint graffiti in Singapore - he deserved to receive local punishment.2/2
thisappisajoke
I don't like PETA, however, there are companies who mass produce wool where the sheep are not left in great shape.
Britt0tot
I'd like to know who, do you have more info on this?
thisappisajoke
It's been a minute since I read up on it, but I am looking more into it. I do know some popular brands in China run wool farms like 1/2
thisappisajoke
2/2 major dairy and meet farms. Sheep are stuffed into horrid conditions, usually if not acting well while being sheared, they're beaten, et
v6sonoma
Used to work on icebreaker's web site. They had a baaa code feature that would tell you the sheep your pricey clothes were made from.
mooseandsquirrell
baaa
avianidiot
There was a yarn shop I visited which had the name of the alpaca your yarn came from on ever ball, and pictures of each one in the shop.
pyrrhlis
Sounds cool.
testedmetal
Never forget... the time PETA got pissed at Games Workshop because their Space Wolves space marine MODELS had wolf pelts on them
IHaveToPeePee
Ok I have read enough. Let's bomb peta to shit. I'm from Belgium I didnt know all this shit. Disgusting
njullpointer
it's more retarded than that. it's *model* wolf pelts. on *models*.
GeorgeGeef
Nah, it was the whole range, since there are furs all over. Interestingly, they weren't upset about the dragon-skin cloaks some models have.
The3dMan96
Blood for the blood god
BluddLoard
I'm not a god but you care if we collect?
BLOOD4THEBLOODGOD
Yes?
delijohn
there are no wolfs on Fenris
Lamplord
Because Space Nazis, Tentacle Rapist Gods, and genocidal Mummybots are fine but how dare you hurt a puppy.
MrMemethief
"How dare you hurt an animal without inviting us?"
RevanTheJedi
Thaaat's more like it
undungubungu
Whats their stance on orc murdering? Afaik orcs are grown like fungi.
Jeddaven
They ended up writing a jab at PETA into one of the books/codexes, I think.
frazzle14
delpharseven
PETA has been caught stealing dogs from their yards, taking them to their "shelter", and killing them before the families even knew their 1/
lovelace1416
Source?
ellelane
https://www.google.ca/amp/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5654d2a6e4b0258edb335808/amp
lovelace1416
Damn. That is fucking terrible. Had NO idea about it.
Jetbeamscantmeltsteelfuell
Checked out the link. Looks pretty legit. Very hard to believe but goddamn it seems to be real
ohfuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
Wait, really? Is there a source?
Dagordae
https://www.google.ca/amp/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5654d2a6e4b0258edb335808/amp
ohfuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
What the actual fuck
Dagordae
There's a significant number of PETA members(Including parts of the leadership) who think that pets are better off dead than pets. So they
Dagordae
facilitate. And then claim to be in the moral right, usually by yelling about slavery. Despite nobody freeing slaves by killing them.
fissnoc
PETA believes no animal should be domesticated, and that they're better off dead if they are.
PizzaSlutForever
Peta Whistleblower ://www.huffingtonpost.com/douglas-anthony-cooper/whistleblower-peta-employee-allegations_b_6648696.html
delpharseven
missed the http http://www.huffingtonpost.com/douglas-anthony-cooper/whistleblower-peta-employee-allegations_b_6648696.html
peketu
Source please, I just can't believe this, doesn't make any sense!
kiwiflavored
"Doesn't make any sense" is a great way to summarize PETA.
Slash0mega
its real, i did a school paper on it, also look up "your mommy kills animals" and "your daddy kills animals" which were pamplets they 1/2
Slash0mega
would give out to children
ellelane
https://www.google.ca/amp/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5654d2a6e4b0258edb335808/amp
tzap
It happened once, the responsible employees were terminated. I'm pretty sure PETA as an organization doesn't sanction it.
ProblyNotTheOne
You'd be wrong. They got CAUGHT once, and the employees that got caught were fired- what ELSE could they do? They kill most pets they take.
YourWaifuIsTrash
Correction: they got caught once. They state on their website that they view pet-keeping as inhumane, and more than once a former employee >
YourWaifuIsTrash
has stated that this is sanctioned and ordered by the organization.
TheFrenchCanadianTaunter
What's their motivation for doing that? It wouldn't surprise me but I'm having difficulty seeing what convoluted logic is involved
delpharseven
They truly believe animals are better off dead than being owned by humans, that enslavement by humans is worse than death.
YourWaifuIsTrash
They believe that it is inhumane and degrading to keep animals as pets, they know they can't steal a pet and hide it for long, so they >
YourWaifuIsTrash
euthanize them as soon as they can get them.
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DonteHaversham
Baba yaega?
reluctantlycrouchedatthestartinglineenginespumpingandthumpingin
I got your 6
tzap
*A dog. If you fight exaggerated propaganda with exaggerated propaganda, you're not much better than the other side.
delpharseven
They've been caught doing this more than once and ex-PETA insiders have confirmed that it is policy. They truly believe that being owned 1/
delpharseven
by humans is worse than death, so stealing and killing animals is a way to liberate them. 2/2
tzap
Source?
delpharseven
http://nationalpost.com/opinion/jen-gerson-the-day-peta-killed-a-pet-dog/wcm/cd6a5e2e-41d3-4549-853f-f370bac69aa2
tzap
This is the only known case of a pet being stolen and euthanized. As I said above - it's not telltale of a systematic practice.
delpharseven
https://www.petakillsanimals.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/peta_inspection.pdf
tzap
This makes no record of any of the animals being stolen.
delpharseven
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/douglas-anthony-cooper/whistleblower-peta-employee-allegations_b_6648696.html
tzap
I don't find a part in the indicated sources that says that PETA stole animals.
delpharseven
http://hamptonroads.com/node/288261
tzap
Prosecutor dropped the case, yet you make a strong assortion that they must have been guilty.
Muntjac
Fair enough. Though PETA employees were caught taking adoptable healthy dogs(plural) from overwhelmed shelters/vet hospitals (cont)
Muntjac
with the promise of finding them homes, only to kill them in the backs of vans. There was at least one case where they
Muntjac
dumped the dead bodies illegally in dumpsters. Fact is, 75% of the animals PETA take in are killed, adoptable or not.
theNameChecker
PETA officials have said that animals suffer far worse fates than euthanasia, such as illness, pain, and not being adoptable.
SarahDactyl82
Yup. And their animal "shelters" kill something like 75% of the animals that end up there. They are garbage. Penn and Teller did an 1/
Akubarix
Yeah, I remember watching that a while ago. I've always hated PETA and Penn and Teller confirmed that I had good cause to do so.
CthulhusGreasyBallsack
80% of my opinions came from watching that show.
SarahDactyl82
I frickin LOVE that show. I love how they actually cite all their sources. They actually have integrity, which is a rare commodity.
Akubarix
I disagree with only two of their episodes: The one with Maddox in it and the one about Walmart. The rest I've found to be spot on.
SarahDactyl82
Episode on it that's really an eye opener. Here's the link for any interested: https://m.liveleak.com/view?i=6c1_1361968754
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ISayFuckAllTheTime
Every year, they almost lose their status as an animal shelter because their kill ratio is so fucking high. Because they looove animals.
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BattleSneeze
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DonteHaversham
Thanks for posting that. Well worth the watch!
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TheMermaidQueen
Thanks. Saving to watch later
EdgarAllenPoboy
Truly a great episode
delpharseven
dog was missing. 2/2
BaronSimple
The organization has 6.5 million members. It's not policy.
BlackIC
Yeah, this isn't their donors who have done this. It's staff.
jeorad
Please tell me they deal with at least some kind of legal ramifications for doing this?
somepersondoingsomethings
They were being sued for millions. http://wric.com/2016/06/24/case-against-peta-over-killed-dog-in-norfolk-moves-forward/
somepersondoingsomethings
I can't find what happened since 2016 though. Not sure if it is still pending or what.
delpharseven
Last I heard it was going to trial this year.
cats3000
But....why?
delpharseven
Because PETA at its heart believes that animals are better off dead than being owned by humans. Serious.
bronypokey6918
so they preach for animals and kill random animals anyway? hmmmm sounds like the real murderers deserve whats comin to them
delpharseven
They truly believe that human ownership is so horrible that animals are better off dead than "enslaved" by humans.
bronypokey6918
and so they cruely kill the animals that we bathe and feed and give love because they think we enslave them?
delpharseven
Yes. PETA is at its heart a humanity death cult. They believe that animals will never be safe until the last human dies. Until then, it 1/
towhead22
I remember one time they took a mans dog and after euthanising it gave a fruit basket as compensation as if that made up for it. They are1/2
towhead22
truly the worst type of people and should go **[The United States Government has censored this comment as a threat to National Security]**
WalterSobchaksWorldOfPain
If PETA killed my dog, I would kill someone at PETA. 1:1 seems fair
Stuntminer202
Are you Keanu Reeves?
shadycoulady
Yeah, I'd totally go John Wick on their asses.
PizzaSlutForever
shadycoulady
https://media.giphy.com/media/ALd5afHotakNi/giphy.gif
tehPhreakmang
Oh please we all know the current market dictates a dog to human ratio of 1:4
dangerrat
If John wick, you're missing a few Zero's on the end there..
tehPhreakmang
*comma's
Roland191145
But for intended dog theft (PETA, Dog fighting rings, general cruelty) I thought the ratio bumps to 1:8
tehPhreakmang
Dog fighting rings demand a 1:1000 ratio... anyone willing to to do that to a animal is less than that animal and technically doesn't /1
tlilsmash
That's how you get all your staff that work for Peta killed. You kill my dog, I kill all of you
jimbobthealmighty
Go full John wick on their asses
tlilsmash
I mean really that's what you get when you start killing people's dogs.
FlamingYon
To "free them from domestication"
Rivalyn
Except instead of domestication they mean the mortal coil.
kornholio135
Is that really their logic?
zeusdemigod131
Their goal is 0 human-animal interaction, from Zoos, to pets, to rehab facilities
delpharseven
And ultimately, no humans. They are a humanity death cult.
Copperbrat
Yep. I met a guy that used to brag that he and a group of fellow PETA members had opened stalls at a horse show and some even escaped 1/
Copperbrat
from the fairgrounds onto city streets. They're pathetic lunatics. 2/2
TheLarrikin
It is indeed. :/
hurrayforboobies
http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/petakillspets.asp source
njullpointer
if that snopes article doesn't say TRUE, then snopes is fucking wrong. cos they've been taken to court over it with video fucking evidence
PiggyWobbles
read the article. It sadly has happened, but wasn't as clear cut as "peta broke in and stole my dog and murdered it". not saying i like them
YourWaifuIsTrash
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/douglas-anthony-cooper/peta-steals-and-kills-lit_b_6156196.html There is at least one incident caught on >
YourWaifuIsTrash
camera of them taking a dog from someone's property (it was sitting on their porch, and should have obviously been theirs), and then >
iamcoolmike
The snopes article says it has indeed happened, not that it happens lots. Still sick though
tzap
Once have PETA employees been found quilty of such far as I can tell.
CulturalAppropriator
Snopes, like Politifact, are becoming more and more driven by personal opinion rather than fact.
manthabat
Actually the Snopes article is really interesting. They give details that honestly make the situation seem a lot more reasonable.
YourWaifuIsTrash
Assuming we're talking about the same incident, I see absolutely nothing reasonable about distracting someone while your coworker takes >
YourWaifuIsTrash
what is clearly their dog off of their porch, and then euthanize it as soon as possible. The PETA shelter was contacted quickly, they >
njullpointer
There's nothing reasonable about stealing dogs/pets & removing their collars & deliberately not checking for chips & killing 97% of intakes.
Cac2008
Yeah you need to be careful with snopes. As far as I know there isnt a fact-checking team, just a single couple without oversight.
freshstrawberrie
The site is for fact-checking. Each entry includes sources& references. They are not intent on tricking anyone. www.snopes.com/snopes-staff/
twozerooz
How about reading the article first? Ever try that?
sykoticflaw
It's mixed. There have been a couple confirmed cases of it, but no evidence that says it's a regular thing.
Thejunkfoodkid
And those confirmed cases were questionable. They invited peta to take strays off their property and their "beloved dog" was left 1/2
Thejunkfoodkid
Outside with no collar while they weren't home. NOT saying peta was at all right, but not the same as stealing a clearly owned pet to kill
sykoticflaw
Yeah they're trying to make it out like PETA is breaking into peoples' homes and kidnapping pets. I hate PETA, but c'mon.
evilgriff
PETA is the Westboro Baptist Church of animal right activism.
NotIrony
No. If they where both criminal conspirators, the WBC would be Chris Christie and/or his friends. PETA would be the Daesh of animal's rights
CanOnlySayYes
explain for my friend pls
theNameChecker
So it has 10 members and everyone thinks it's a bigger problem than it is
kiriyamas
This was the best thing i've ever seen
theNameChecker
Then you haven't seen much
kiriyamas
Damn you're right
dicaprioonacid
They sued the guy who has the selfie of the monkey, cuz the monkey should have the picture rights, so the dude is broke thanks to them 1/2
dicaprioonacid
2/2 He can't even affort a laywer anymore, that pic destroyed him.
TeddyBearWitch
As a vegan, can confirm. PETA is horrendous and should be shut down.
Mockingbirb
I'd say, what IS is to Islam, is PETA to animal protection/welfare. They are extremists!
GeorgeGeef
Which sucks, because we really should treat animals raised for meat/hide/fiber better, but these assholes damage the whole movement.
jadespider
No, WBC are annoying loud idiots who never actually hurt anyone. PETA steals and kills happily owned pets.
Vaanhalen
This. This right here. PETA isn't a church, they're not the 2017 kkk club, theyre more like the 1941 3rd Reich-- on a rampage
BattleSneeze
And with a much better PR machine.
MattLantis56
I think you mean they haven't physically harmed anyone/anything
PhloppyPhish1998
And they funded that group that killed/set up traps for loggers, right?
yarow12
They hurt people's feelings...
Peregrine2976
I mean, I'd contend that protesting at a beloved family member's funeral, calling them a f*g and insisting they'll burn in hell, is harmful.
melekoftd
You're damn right it is. They wouldn't tolerate a Zoanastrian delegation showing up at one of their funerals and throwing a party.
HPWombat
It's a shitty thing to do, but I think humans are strong enough to take on the mantle of "fuck those guys" and persevere, unharmed.
apollocreedbratton
I don't know, I've been yelled at for saying "yes sir" to a man who "identified" as a woman before. Humans are getting pretty thin skinned.
Grudgebearingmidget
It hurts emotionally, but stealing a family pet just to kill it is unspeakably fucking evil.
forAGrandTotalOf
At least WBC has the excuse of obeying some book that our ancestors decided was the truth at some point
KNDBS
It's really fucked up,but still you could argue they didn't physically harm any person on animal, something PETA often does.
Peregrine2976
PETA's still fucked up, though. Because they do do what you said. I despise them.
Diyakinos
Do do
RobotMassacre538
Can't we just agree that both organizations are fucked up?
HellenicTaxCollector
PETA an organization that gone after super mario and pokemon for animal cruelty >.> (google it )
Markamanic
Also went after Assassin's creed 4 for whale hunting, which was very commonplace in that time period
HellenicTaxCollector
Really i didnt knew that x)
NemoElcon
Sea Shepherd tried the same thing in the Faroe Islands... they got expelled and banned from the islands!
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GadenKerensky
Surprisingly well made though.
FishingForConversation
They went after the Space Wolves from Warhammer 40k for their models having wolf pelts.
Aguynamedcarl
Space wolves to PETA:
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IHaveToPeePee
Dude, what ???
Nitsgar
Yeah i had to go look at the article and then check to make sure it wasn't a satire site.
jherazob
As strange as it sounds, Matt Ward's response was great: https://mobile.twitter.com/thetowerofstars/status/826052983565799424
AhDumTheHermit
fake, make-believe animal lives matter.
kaitoofrose
Not to mention Super Meat Boy, who, in turn, made a joke character in their game, Tofu Boy, who is the worst one.
DarkZalgo
I thought if was tofu girl?
kaitoofrose
http://supermeatboy.wikia.com/wiki/Tofu_Boy Nope, boy.
DarkZalgo
Ohh. I know what it is. I knew there was a tofu something in the game and never got a good look at bandage girl or knew her name.
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thedjdoorn
They're also screwing over a photographer because of a monkey selfie:
thedjdoorn
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jul/12/monkey-selfie-macaque-copyright-court-david-slater
cantthinkofaclevernameatm
That was a good (and painfull) reading. Thanks!
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Vyrro
Anyone that drives a car at peta is hypocritical. Just a short drive kills quite a few bugs.
BlimeyGuy
also went after 40k for portraying their models with fur
NiskanensBureaucrats
Warhammer 40k. Because the grimdark was to cruel to animals, with everyone wearing fur...
bobtheaxolotl
Also, super meat boy. They made a "parody" game that was atrociously bad.
InsistYouDesist
PETA had a 'chicken causes autism' campaign, boycots warhammer figures that wear fur and financially supports domestic terror organizations
WhyEvenName
I heard and read about the Mario incident
MrPredator
Sorry for double post, but here's this too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6wAc7VB1PY
philoticparallax
That was fantastic.
snewsh
dont forget warhammer 40k, cause the plastic models wear fur.
TheTwistedKris
Don't forget warhammer 40k as well
kupuka
Came to post this.
n080dy123
I mean, Pokemon's actually really fucked up if you think about it... But yeah...
Pinkpurplestrawberries
Just like Susan G Komen...
movethebongos
They didn't "go after" Mario or Pokémon. They used them as a tool to convey their message (even if their message is stupid).
movethebongos
Don't spread lies. They are horrible as-is.
testzero
They made some other games as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWUAzH2Bmq0
SloppyMoses
I did, it says you fucking blow
magnavox1312
I upvoted so it's not at "1337" anymore
AnonOmis1000
If we are being honest here, pokemon IS about animal fighting in the simplest of terms.
Derpshit
they went after Super Meat Boy a Game that has no relation to animals at all only because the protagonist is named meat boy
everypostepic
PETA a company that does media marketing, to get talked about and raise awareness, which you are doing. Seems like a success to me.
johnson21
Pokémon.
themoistnoodler
Question here, do wild sheep overgrow their wool that much? How would they survive without people? Or is it just domesticated ones that do
theitinerantnaturalist
Just domesticated ones....wild sheep act the same as domestic sheep but have less fur
ScreamedTheStableBoy
Shreck was an escaped Domestic sheep a real wild sheep would be able to shed their coat
themoistnoodler
ahh ty
doesntmatter
Just domesticated, and not all breeds.
firemandrill13
They also went after Games Workshop for sculpting fur pelts on their models.
GadenKerensky
I always found that funny; fur pelts and coats are horrid, but they happily ignore the bandoliers of human skulls worn by the non-humans.
HurrDurrImABurr
Funny thing: they mentioned Space Wolves, but they don't wear wolf pelts, but pelts of their mutated brothers. So yeah... human pelts.
viaovid
brb, putting pelts on to all my Tyranids.
TheEvenPrez
Did someone tell them that's 40k is a universe where things die by the planetload?
Cac2008
And with any luck, in that universe PETA would be one of them. Actually with the inquisition about it is GUARANTEED
TrueExorcist
They would die trying to save some death world fauna probably
AlexisActually
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FelixTheCAT5e
They're also a terrorist organization. Known for paying people to bomb buildings.
wrincewind
Anything to get some attention!
MrMemethief
PETA announced support for Team Plasma. That doesn't really contribute anything to your comment, I just think it's hilarious and ironic.
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
Peta is the Anti-Vaxx of modern activisim, right there with Kill Whites and Ignore History.
Orzbek
When the co-founder, Ingrid Newkirk, dies, it's in her will that her body be cooked at a BBQ and fed to people without their knowledge.
Jesushotsaucechristmascake
That's... I have a feeling that might be illegal.
lxxxvi
What are they gonna do, sue her?
Orzbek
Haven't you seen that episode of South Park? All you need is a seance lawyer and you're set!
Orzbek
But it's the "same as eating cow"! That's only a portion; there's a huge list of crap. Thing is... her followers would actually go through.
MrPredator
Don't forget Starcraft for players killing Zerg, but, then again, I'm not sure if they were serious or trolling.
ODSTsRule
PETA had nothing better do to than harass GW about the Fur coats of the ficitonal minitiatures they produce... fucking pathetic in my view.
BossCar9
Meanwhile, Yulin happens ever year and animals are frequently killed by poachers, yet Pokémon is somehow the most evil thing ever.
lcplspanky
Idk, Pokémon has genocide https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nvCZNEsld54
BossCar9
shhhhh don't encourage them. Somewhat related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPNPIrwv65E&feature=share
lcplspanky
That was a good watch, and seems very plausible
SarcasticComment
As someone whose eaten dog, it's not a bad meat, but they need to step it up when it comes to animal welfare/slaughter
BossCar9
Indeed. It's what they do to the dogs at Yulin that angers so many people. I've heard that many of those dogs came from loving homes.
SarcasticComment
I never put it past people to make a dishonest buck, but most of them are farmed
BossCar9
They have this thinking that torturing the animals will make the meat tastier.
SarcasticComment
They do that with more than just dogs. I've seen fish boiled alive. They take "must be fresh" to crazy levels.
BossCar9
Yeah, it's disgusting. That's what I made the comment. PETA is so worried about Pokémon when this shit is going on.
DeadlyEnzyme
PETA is known as one of the highest kill rate shelter groups out there. They're the worst
raptorsoldier
Wat about make a wish
1snowwolf1
Justincredible6
Something something. The make a wish foundation comment.
DougDeNasty
PETA abducts 1 out of 7 children, they are only rivaled by the Dutch!
Alighierian
Pah, I call bullshit. We don't kidnap kidd- one moment. ᵍᵉᵗ ᵗʰᵉ ᶠᵘᶜᵏ ᵇᵃᶜᵏ ᶦᶰ ᵗʰᵉʳᵉ ʸᵒᵘ ᶫᶦᵗᵗᶫᵉ ˢʰᶦᵗ﹗ Ah, where was I? Right, lack of kidnapin
CWAwaffles
I think Make-A-Wish foundation has a higher kill rate
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pyrrhlis
We can go brutaler
TheFirstSineOfMadness
Nice reference bro
tzap
Given that no kill shelters routinely refuse animals that would need to be put down, it's no wonder other shelters get much higher rate.
Pawnderlust
Peta kills healthy animals
tzap
Maybe, but my point was that being the highest kill rate shelter doesn't automatically make you a bad shelter.
Junglebeat
actually, I know of one that actively showcases their pets, special needs and all, and takes care of them regardless. I don't think all are1
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DeviousLuxray
They were bred from goats
DeadlyEnzyme
There weren't any of this specific species before humans took care of them
BhawbTheMagnificent
Sheep, like cows, are an entirely different species now than when they were wild.
WayneSLuther
Domesticated sheeps were selectively breed to not sure and grow more wool. Whereas wild sheep's still do .
EarlGreyOrDeath
Shedded like most animals, that just isn't productive for us, so we breed that out.
DeadlyEnzyme
They bankrupted a guy because they wanted to say a monkey could own property
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Knillis
Just read about this, what a load of bullshit. Fucking PETA
Saustino
While I'm NOT DEFENDING peta. The article says it was originally Wikipedia who sued him in 2011 after he tried to claim a copyright.
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roboman
More like giving the monkey copyright for a "selfie" since it used the camera
gobbo
I'm gonna need more than that.
unicorniodechicle
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jul/12/monkey-selfie-macaque-copyright-court-david-slater
HellenicTaxCollector
uhm what ?
unicorniodechicle
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jul/12/monkey-selfie-macaque-copyright-court-david-slater
tehzpoon
Jesus fucking Christ this shit just happened. I was shaking my head at what I thought was some old PETA story. Fuck PETA. SJWs for animals>>
TheGirlInTheFireplace
They named the fucking monkey Naruto? For fucks sake, this is the kinda bullshit I would expect to find in those shitty tabloids next to an
shveet
What the actual fuck?...
SmartSpectre
Thats fucking ridiculous.
budthespudfromthebrightredmud
Someone should make him a go find me. Not me cuz I'm lazy... but someone should.
TheLateKnight
Of course they named it naruto.
iamdanman
They kidnapped a guy's dog, killed it and then gave him a fruit basket.
DrTacticalKeyboard
http://imgur.com/O7s8lpI
aFadingMemory
Isnt that quote from Rick and morty
Ricknumber274
For the love of God, do you have a source?
iamdanman
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5654d2a6e4b0258edb335808
somepersondoingsomethings
Do they get kickbacks from the government for rounding up strays or something and this inflates their numbers? Corruption lies in every org.
MDAlchemist
Damm.... fuck them sideways with a chainsaw.
definitelynotawolf
That's horrible
definitelynotawolf
Fuck me