Mar 15, 2017 11:50 PM
kernburn
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/15/politics/travel-ban-blocked/index.html
Xanthus179
Is he getting fatter?
Fwords
Trump loses again?
Skizzlesnap
Fuck Trump
Greaticalia164
Today's news: Trump supporters revealed to be absolute idiots yet again
Trumpcalender
Goddamn judges and their insistence on "evidence". If Foxnews and Breitbart say something is true, that's good enough for the GOP.
tommyfever
haults
Cavalrysword
Read the Hawaii judge's decision, it's great. "The administration wants to focus on the text, not the context".
thefood
ha
TheKingofAllPotatos
"Its not a muslim ban! Its just a ban on travel from predominantly muslim countries that Christians are exempt from!" Boi.
ionlylooklikeapotato
I'm gonna start taking bets now on whether we have a higher IPhone # or Trump Travel Ban Attempt # in 4 years.
Sheldonian
That's great but still border agents are being very racist when deciding who can pass and who doesn't. One step at a time i guess
dietderpsy
What racial criteria are they using?
That's the thing, whatever they want
Godsoftheodds
*halts
Yup, I misspelled. I was so elated our constitution wasn't just a piece of toilet paper for this shill of a president.
clownfarts
You mean the constitution that gives the president exclusive executive authority to make such decisions about immigration?
RipRoarin
and this is why we have 3 branches of government. so tools like this don't get a big head and screw things up.
aleister94
Like the triarchs from game of thrones
Bunches0Lunches
Bigly*
DawnTakeYouALL
*bigger
gbh2
Never thought my sanity would be in lockstep with the federal judiciary. But here we are.
Or perhaps you are just both insane.
Meyhna
Dude prob thinks checks and balances is a term for the before and after of government spending
teuro
It's almost like there's laws in place to prevent tyranny.
HosWidamos
My favorite part of this is the fact that the 90-day ban would be over 1/3 of the way done by this point had it passed the first time.
NO BUT ALL MUSLIMS WOULD BE BANNED FOREVER AND DEPORTED AHHHHHHH SHUT UP WITH YOUR LOGIC!
GiantRobotsRule
and omg look at all the terrorism that is happening in the USA because anti-freedom courts blocked Trump's muslim bans! (or maybe not)
JenniferAnuston
Halts*
BigDumbFaggot
Only US citizens have the full protection of the Constitution. What exactly does it violate?
BootsNCatsNBootsNCatsN
Is it just me or is he just the greatest litmus test for democracy?
Kierbear2g
Personally I wouldn't set my house on fire to see how good the fire department are at their jobs.
Fair.. I didn't start the fire. But it's nice to see we have extinguishers around.
rfenton
He's legitimately an existential threat to American democracy.
Unfortunately, he is a product of American Democracy. Are you saying America is going to crumble?
I hope not. But a president who has no respect for, nor any idea what the actual function of, the judicial branch is certainly dangerous.
Agreed, and my hope is Democracy will shine through... "Why are there so many leaks?" - DT. b/c people value money and what is right, Donny
szillygirl1
That's really scary
Looking for light.
coronalmassejection
This guy: http://www.hid.uscourts.gov/images/judges/DKW_(275x367).jpg
TemporaryUzername
fairly punchable face
1mshadowbanned
When you say you are going to ban Muslims kind of makes it hard to argue its not a Muslim ban.
FirstEdition
Obama said no new taxes in ACA, but Supreme Court ruled that the mandate was a tax. Public statements don't seem to matter to the court
NotYetNotYetNow
As they shouldn't. The only thing should matter to the courts is the law.
I wasn't making an argument one way or another. Just saying it would be hypocritical for courts to consider public statements now
TheUpdootist
Probably the best thing about this whole ruling is that Trump finally has to eat his words. He's finally being held accountable for the 1/2
crazy shit he says and I couldn't be happier. 2/2
Himitsubu
But it kinda is. It doesn't ban all muslims, but bans only muslims. Countries in the ban are 80% of muslim travel. 80% Muslim ban?
Unnoticed is it was a Shia Muslim ban. (probably at the behest of Saudi Arabia which has a fundamentalist anti-Shia govt)
4 of the nations banned have Sunni majorities.
bigbowliofravioli
"But you don't understand. I really hate brown people." - Trumps counter argument.
He can't deport First Nation's people, so he'll steam roll 'em.
That's why he has disregard for Native American tribal lands and the oil pipeline. Just like his idol, Alexander Hamilton's Trail of tears
TheKaijuConfederation
I think you might mean Andrew Jackson.
BiBoundGal
Well when Steve Miller comes out and says "it's basically the same as before" you can't really expect the courts not to stay it.
gratefulheart
Did he sing it?
whiskeyandcigarettes
Wait... are we talking about the same midnight toker?
AvielMenter
Yeah, in fact, the opinion cited Miller's statement to point out that the orderes were essentially the same
ToxicPineapple
So it's the Steve Miller Ban?
middlehead
The Gangster of Love works for Trump? Why, Maurice, why? :(
MaryTylerDintyMoore
Because he failed to speak of the pometous of love.
Except it is not the same. The new one dictates that embassies over seas stop issuing visas,
which is 100% under the authority of the executive.
migueljaksun
keep on rock 'n me baby
leavinit
DrForester
His Muslim ban being put on hold is good, that it was party because of one of the racists on his staff saying that makes it better.
Raven2785
It must be incredibly frustrating to The Orange One that a simple judge in Hawai can cockblock him.
lambaroo
bet he is only a "so called" judge too :D
SylvesterMarcus
Trump is just used to firing people that let him down. I think he's having a hard time adjusting to this whole "equal branch" thing.
GoldenSama
You're spot on. CEO's have very few, if any, checks on their power. He's not used to someone else being able to tell him no. 1/2
Business is very different than politics, not enough people realize that, and that's why people keep saying CEO's should be in politics.
[deleted]
Nah, he's YELLOW
LOVEISINTHEARI
was that a paronomasia?
Just an observation
Ok, so I'm a bit tired and stupid right now. Also actually interested if you were playing on my comment and meant that he is a coward, if
Sharklaserspewpew
Obama Hawaii...
boobcat
He isn't a Simple judge he's a Federal judge, that's abig deal and everyone knows there is an appeal process and higher courts (except you)
vermoomen303
What are you even saying the comment you so annoyingly replied to agrees with you
slizzo
Fuck trump and his fucking bans and everyone who voted for that fuck.
Bump
Howdy.
ohlonelyme
I love this, even though he's in office, this proves that there is still good people who care, in my opinion, Democracy isn't dead.
This isn't proving Democracy is working, it's proving Constitutional law is working. A good thing when the Justice System is a farce.
LizardEnterprises
No, but it's on life support. Y'all motherfuckers need to vote. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm6CnP8CsCw
muckinpattis
there is a slight issue with judge shopping, any one judge can block nationwide. which means its very easy to find a judge to do it
That's cynical. This is 1 part of system of Justice.The plantiffs knew this decision would be referred to higher courts. they have to...1/2
2.of believed their claim will stand (win) in all courts.R U suggesting a State Attorney didnt anticipate this decision would be challenged?
For instance if 10 judges get the lawsuit, and 9 find no basis, but 1 does, the one judge becomes as powerful as the president.
Down vote all you want because you're liberal and enjoy seeing Trump lose court cases, but the literal same thing happened to pres Obama.
zFUBARz
Just remember that people seem to be actively trying to kill it.
FlippantBagel
This cannot be forgotten but in the meantime.....
Nuttsy
Well, it's not like THAT isn't an age-old tradition of pretty much everywhere where democracy is a habit, either.
NoMoreRhymesNowIMeanIt
This is one judge blocking and EO signed by a democratically elected figure. I agree with the judge, but it's not exactly pure democracy.
DuckPlanetKing
Are u saying that presidents should have absolute power because they're elected? Then start with giving the job to the 1 who got more votes
Now, don't you just love politics?
An illegal EO. This judge ruled it illegalon the same legal principle the other Judges did on the last EO. This case was brought by 7 Sates.
DarthHat3r
It's real weird that they didn't bring it up to immigration "EO"s ago you know the one obama made
LemmiwinksKingofGerbils
Maybe because those didn't violate the law.
Not weird at all. Obama wasn't discriminating against a specific religion. Trump is. Trump is BIGLY. That's illegal. Obama's OE was legal
metalharvester
In 2 months of presidency Trumps administration has achieved very little. Trump supporters cant even argue that....there is nothing to argue
"They did so little" said the patriot who blockades anything and everything related to what the administration plans to do.
Yea...because most of his policies are against the constitution...but i guess you trump supporters forgot about that piece of paper
"against the constitution"... sure they are.
MoreLikeLawlSchool
Well he should stop trying to do unconstitutional things then.
Checks and balances
Rhisereld
Maybe that's because most of what the administration plans to do is fucking batshit.
softballguy
Party of No now mad at people who say no. News at 11.
ArtOzz
I like the part, "Its not a Muslim ban. OK, there is almost nothing but Muslims in their countries (90% is the lowest) but its not them!"
JohnnyTitelips
I disagree with the ban as well, but your logic here is faulty. Banning immigrants from Sweden wouldn't mean that you have a beef with (1/2)
If you & your admin had made countless statements of of animus & hostility to Scandinavian people, then your intent may be relevant in court
Oh yeah, totally. But that's also not what this guy said.
people who have blonde hair.
Also, we're exempting any other religious group from these countries so that we only ban the Muslims *wink wink*
Tachyon000
No that clause was removed in this version ofnthe travel ban
Ask Obama why his administration listed those countries as dangerous, then.
TheLazyLibrarian
I believe your "dangerous" part is misleading. There is a difference between being dangerous b/c one's carrying a scissor compared to 1/2
being dangerous b/c one has an armed military helicopter and is yelling he's going to kill you.
Nobody7713
There's a difference between labeling them as dangerous because of domestic instability and banning all travel from them.
He did that too...
wheredowehidethebody
But I mean if there were say 3000 immigrants and a few MIGHT be terrorists I'd still rather have a ban than the risk, until 1/2
An appropriate vetting response could be acted on and utilized in an appropriate manner
Animatronio
OK, but there is a vetting process and we haven't had a terrorist attack by citizens of any of those countries in 16 years. I'd say it works
zerobandwidth
halts *
This needs to be the top comment..
valen00
I like this version more, it suits trump better somehow
danielsan1977
Hawts.
TheDeanofLean
Lol
KobblerMax
Boobdick
SAD!
thegarlicawakens
Does anyone proofread anything before they post anymore? That honestly drops the credibility of my news sources.
Nope. I'm usually such a spelling Nazi too. I really dropped the ball on this one.
It's okay. We must educate our brethren!
kutison
I hear by declare that you spell like him though
onepinksheep
Meme uses caps lock, so it checks out.
"hear by"
In case you missed it, that's the joke. http://nymag.com/selectall/2017/03/president-trump-its-spelled-h-e-r-e-b-y.html
Smoke weed everyday
Oh! So that was the whoosh sound.
Xanthus179
Is he getting fatter?
Fwords
Trump loses again?
Skizzlesnap
Fuck Trump
Greaticalia164
Today's news: Trump supporters revealed to be absolute idiots yet again
Trumpcalender
Goddamn judges and their insistence on "evidence". If Foxnews and Breitbart say something is true, that's good enough for the GOP.
tommyfever
haults
Cavalrysword
Read the Hawaii judge's decision, it's great. "The administration wants to focus on the text, not the context".
thefood
ha
TheKingofAllPotatos
"Its not a muslim ban! Its just a ban on travel from predominantly muslim countries that Christians are exempt from!" Boi.
ionlylooklikeapotato
I'm gonna start taking bets now on whether we have a higher IPhone # or Trump Travel Ban Attempt # in 4 years.
Sheldonian
That's great but still border agents are being very racist when deciding who can pass and who doesn't. One step at a time i guess
dietderpsy
What racial criteria are they using?
Sheldonian
That's the thing, whatever they want
Godsoftheodds
*halts
kernburn
Yup, I misspelled. I was so elated our constitution wasn't just a piece of toilet paper for this shill of a president.
clownfarts
You mean the constitution that gives the president exclusive executive authority to make such decisions about immigration?
RipRoarin
and this is why we have 3 branches of government. so tools like this don't get a big head and screw things up.
aleister94
Like the triarchs from game of thrones
Bunches0Lunches
Bigly*
DawnTakeYouALL
*bigger
gbh2
Never thought my sanity would be in lockstep with the federal judiciary. But here we are.
clownfarts
Or perhaps you are just both insane.
Meyhna
Dude prob thinks checks and balances is a term for the before and after of government spending
teuro
It's almost like there's laws in place to prevent tyranny.
HosWidamos
My favorite part of this is the fact that the 90-day ban would be over 1/3 of the way done by this point had it passed the first time.
clownfarts
NO BUT ALL MUSLIMS WOULD BE BANNED FOREVER AND DEPORTED AHHHHHHH SHUT UP WITH YOUR LOGIC!
GiantRobotsRule
and omg look at all the terrorism that is happening in the USA because anti-freedom courts blocked Trump's muslim bans! (or maybe not)
JenniferAnuston
Halts*
kernburn
Yup, I misspelled. I was so elated our constitution wasn't just a piece of toilet paper for this shill of a president.
BigDumbFaggot
Only US citizens have the full protection of the Constitution. What exactly does it violate?
BootsNCatsNBootsNCatsN
Is it just me or is he just the greatest litmus test for democracy?
Kierbear2g
Personally I wouldn't set my house on fire to see how good the fire department are at their jobs.
BootsNCatsNBootsNCatsN
Fair.. I didn't start the fire. But it's nice to see we have extinguishers around.
rfenton
He's legitimately an existential threat to American democracy.
BootsNCatsNBootsNCatsN
Unfortunately, he is a product of American Democracy. Are you saying America is going to crumble?
rfenton
I hope not. But a president who has no respect for, nor any idea what the actual function of, the judicial branch is certainly dangerous.
BootsNCatsNBootsNCatsN
Agreed, and my hope is Democracy will shine through... "Why are there so many leaks?" - DT. b/c people value money and what is right, Donny
szillygirl1
That's really scary
BootsNCatsNBootsNCatsN
Looking for light.
coronalmassejection
This guy: http://www.hid.uscourts.gov/images/judges/DKW_(275x367).jpg
TemporaryUzername
fairly punchable face
1mshadowbanned
When you say you are going to ban Muslims kind of makes it hard to argue its not a Muslim ban.
FirstEdition
Obama said no new taxes in ACA, but Supreme Court ruled that the mandate was a tax. Public statements don't seem to matter to the court
NotYetNotYetNow
As they shouldn't. The only thing should matter to the courts is the law.
FirstEdition
I wasn't making an argument one way or another. Just saying it would be hypocritical for courts to consider public statements now
TheUpdootist
Probably the best thing about this whole ruling is that Trump finally has to eat his words. He's finally being held accountable for the 1/2
TheUpdootist
crazy shit he says and I couldn't be happier. 2/2
Himitsubu
But it kinda is. It doesn't ban all muslims, but bans only muslims. Countries in the ban are 80% of muslim travel. 80% Muslim ban?
1mshadowbanned
Unnoticed is it was a Shia Muslim ban. (probably at the behest of Saudi Arabia which has a fundamentalist anti-Shia govt)
Himitsubu
4 of the nations banned have Sunni majorities.
bigbowliofravioli
"But you don't understand. I really hate brown people." - Trumps counter argument.
szillygirl1
He can't deport First Nation's people, so he'll steam roll 'em.
szillygirl1
That's why he has disregard for Native American tribal lands and the oil pipeline. Just like his idol, Alexander Hamilton's Trail of tears
TheKaijuConfederation
I think you might mean Andrew Jackson.
BiBoundGal
Well when Steve Miller comes out and says "it's basically the same as before" you can't really expect the courts not to stay it.
gratefulheart
Did he sing it?
whiskeyandcigarettes
Wait... are we talking about the same midnight toker?
AvielMenter
Yeah, in fact, the opinion cited Miller's statement to point out that the orderes were essentially the same
ToxicPineapple
So it's the Steve Miller Ban?
middlehead
The Gangster of Love works for Trump? Why, Maurice, why? :(
MaryTylerDintyMoore
Because he failed to speak of the pometous of love.
clownfarts
Except it is not the same. The new one dictates that embassies over seas stop issuing visas,
clownfarts
which is 100% under the authority of the executive.
migueljaksun
leavinit
DrForester
His Muslim ban being put on hold is good, that it was party because of one of the racists on his staff saying that makes it better.
Raven2785
It must be incredibly frustrating to The Orange One that a simple judge in Hawai can cockblock him.
lambaroo
bet he is only a "so called" judge too :D
SylvesterMarcus
Trump is just used to firing people that let him down. I think he's having a hard time adjusting to this whole "equal branch" thing.
GoldenSama
You're spot on. CEO's have very few, if any, checks on their power. He's not used to someone else being able to tell him no. 1/2
GoldenSama
Business is very different than politics, not enough people realize that, and that's why people keep saying CEO's should be in politics.
[deleted]
[deleted]
szillygirl1
Nah, he's YELLOW
LOVEISINTHEARI
was that a paronomasia?
szillygirl1
Just an observation
LOVEISINTHEARI
Ok, so I'm a bit tired and stupid right now. Also actually interested if you were playing on my comment and meant that he is a coward, if
Sharklaserspewpew
Obama Hawaii...
boobcat
He isn't a Simple judge he's a Federal judge, that's abig deal and everyone knows there is an appeal process and higher courts (except you)
vermoomen303
What are you even saying the comment you so annoyingly replied to agrees with you
slizzo
Fuck trump and his fucking bans and everyone who voted for that fuck.
szillygirl1
Bump
BigDumbFaggot
Howdy.
ohlonelyme
I love this, even though he's in office, this proves that there is still good people who care, in my opinion, Democracy isn't dead.
boobcat
This isn't proving Democracy is working, it's proving Constitutional law is working. A good thing when the Justice System is a farce.
LizardEnterprises
No, but it's on life support. Y'all motherfuckers need to vote. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm6CnP8CsCw
muckinpattis
there is a slight issue with judge shopping, any one judge can block nationwide. which means its very easy to find a judge to do it
boobcat
That's cynical. This is 1 part of system of Justice.The plantiffs knew this decision would be referred to higher courts. they have to...1/2
boobcat
2.of believed their claim will stand (win) in all courts.R U suggesting a State Attorney didnt anticipate this decision would be challenged?
muckinpattis
For instance if 10 judges get the lawsuit, and 9 find no basis, but 1 does, the one judge becomes as powerful as the president.
muckinpattis
Down vote all you want because you're liberal and enjoy seeing Trump lose court cases, but the literal same thing happened to pres Obama.
zFUBARz
Just remember that people seem to be actively trying to kill it.
FlippantBagel
This cannot be forgotten but in the meantime.....
Nuttsy
Well, it's not like THAT isn't an age-old tradition of pretty much everywhere where democracy is a habit, either.
NoMoreRhymesNowIMeanIt
This is one judge blocking and EO signed by a democratically elected figure. I agree with the judge, but it's not exactly pure democracy.
DuckPlanetKing
Are u saying that presidents should have absolute power because they're elected? Then start with giving the job to the 1 who got more votes
szillygirl1
Now, don't you just love politics?
boobcat
An illegal EO. This judge ruled it illegalon the same legal principle the other Judges did on the last EO. This case was brought by 7 Sates.
DarthHat3r
It's real weird that they didn't bring it up to immigration "EO"s ago you know the one obama made
LemmiwinksKingofGerbils
Maybe because those didn't violate the law.
boobcat
Not weird at all. Obama wasn't discriminating against a specific religion. Trump is. Trump is BIGLY. That's illegal. Obama's OE was legal
metalharvester
In 2 months of presidency Trumps administration has achieved very little. Trump supporters cant even argue that....there is nothing to argue
TemporaryUzername
"They did so little" said the patriot who blockades anything and everything related to what the administration plans to do.
metalharvester
Yea...because most of his policies are against the constitution...but i guess you trump supporters forgot about that piece of paper
TemporaryUzername
"against the constitution"... sure they are.
MoreLikeLawlSchool
Well he should stop trying to do unconstitutional things then.
szillygirl1
Checks and balances
Rhisereld
Maybe that's because most of what the administration plans to do is fucking batshit.
softballguy
Party of No now mad at people who say no. News at 11.
ArtOzz
I like the part, "Its not a Muslim ban. OK, there is almost nothing but Muslims in their countries (90% is the lowest) but its not them!"
JohnnyTitelips
I disagree with the ban as well, but your logic here is faulty. Banning immigrants from Sweden wouldn't mean that you have a beef with (1/2)
GiantRobotsRule
If you & your admin had made countless statements of of animus & hostility to Scandinavian people, then your intent may be relevant in court
JohnnyTitelips
Oh yeah, totally. But that's also not what this guy said.
JohnnyTitelips
people who have blonde hair.
LemmiwinksKingofGerbils
Also, we're exempting any other religious group from these countries so that we only ban the Muslims *wink wink*
Tachyon000
No that clause was removed in this version ofnthe travel ban
TemporaryUzername
Ask Obama why his administration listed those countries as dangerous, then.
TheLazyLibrarian
I believe your "dangerous" part is misleading. There is a difference between being dangerous b/c one's carrying a scissor compared to 1/2
TemporaryUzername
TheLazyLibrarian
being dangerous b/c one has an armed military helicopter and is yelling he's going to kill you.
Nobody7713
There's a difference between labeling them as dangerous because of domestic instability and banning all travel from them.
TemporaryUzername
clownfarts
He did that too...
wheredowehidethebody
But I mean if there were say 3000 immigrants and a few MIGHT be terrorists I'd still rather have a ban than the risk, until 1/2
wheredowehidethebody
An appropriate vetting response could be acted on and utilized in an appropriate manner
Animatronio
OK, but there is a vetting process and we haven't had a terrorist attack by citizens of any of those countries in 16 years. I'd say it works
zerobandwidth
halts *
coronalmassejection
This needs to be the top comment..
valen00
I like this version more, it suits trump better somehow
danielsan1977
Hawts.
kernburn
Yup, I misspelled. I was so elated our constitution wasn't just a piece of toilet paper for this shill of a president.
TheDeanofLean
Lol
KobblerMax
Boobdick
SAD!
thegarlicawakens
Does anyone proofread anything before they post anymore? That honestly drops the credibility of my news sources.
kernburn
Nope. I'm usually such a spelling Nazi too. I really dropped the ball on this one.
thegarlicawakens
It's okay. We must educate our brethren!
kutison
I hear by declare that you spell like him though
onepinksheep
Meme uses caps lock, so it checks out.
LemmiwinksKingofGerbils
"hear by"
kutison
In case you missed it, that's the joke. http://nymag.com/selectall/2017/03/president-trump-its-spelled-h-e-r-e-b-y.html
KobblerMax
Smoke weed everyday
LemmiwinksKingofGerbils
Oh! So that was the whoosh sound.