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Sauce: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/11/20/apple-uighur/
EveryoneWhoDisagreesWithMeIsLiterallyHitler
apple, the scummiest company ever, is pro forced labor??
thinkstopthink
WHHHY do you think this is news? Capitalists have always behaved like this. Stop thinking you are seeing something outrageous.
Schmoozingschmoozing
Isn't prison labour in the states more or less slave labour? I mean 50c a hour makes it technically not slave labour but come on
youreathing
Not enough people care about this. Period. They just won't admit it.
Theauburnsky
What? Harvesting organs from slaves is bad?
Gameskyjumper
and rights to repair. Don't let them win.
manderso7
“said Apple was one of many U.S. companies that oppose the bill as it’s written” so maybe wait for details? Or is that dumb?
FoxPesdassi
Apple's "official stance" on human rights. Gonna have to remember that for my "official stance" on ice cream.
Jandegrote
Wauw nobody could have seen this coming this is a shock i thought apple was truely making everything in the US.............
Nlchacon
What kind of a sick fuckin world are we living in!?
LuminousExpanse
one that's been this way for a long time, we have just been able to ignore it
JettSenpai
I hate apple,but to be fair as i type this on my samsung galaxy, i cant get too preachy...
AVeryTallGlassOfIToldYouSo
Why would they want to ban the little hands that make their 1200€ phone for suburban basic bitches posting belfies? Apple isn't stupid
AVeryTallGlassOfIToldYouSo
And I'm pretty sure their strategy and pricing has established they have no morals. And why would they because people buy their crap with...
AVeryTallGlassOfIToldYouSo
Mouths filled with shit chanting "than you Steve jobs' ghost dick"
fennecbutt
Why's everyone acting all surprised?
motoalchemist
And people wonder why I stopped buying apple, just wish there was a way to transfer all my itunes purchases
VaultGirl69
Stop. Buying. Their. Shit.
Noksus
but cheap employees are why Apple is the first company to reach one trillion!
Bystandr
Wow Apple. Really? Wow.
Wildfyre1000
Rich people gonna grift
Vengeraxe
Haveing had to use both apple and later android phones..I cant remember a time after 7-8 months of buying a new android phone having it /1
Vengeraxe
Slow down, and have battery issues. Went thru 4 gens of apple ones due to company. All new. All started having issues near time for /2
Vengeraxe
new model phone to come out. All of them had a massive update a few months before new phone came out. Every year. Sorry man, fuck apple.
magister333350
To quote someone else on youtube... imagine buying apple products in 2020, despite knowing how inferior they are in hardware/quality. lol
leodavinci1
People who "know" that, know jackshit.
gmreml132
*Designed in California. Assembled by children at gunpoint. LOL
TheHippieDrood
Tbf though, what electronic isn’t? Like we sold everything off to China so we kind of fucked ourselves if we want to get ragey about it.
gmreml132
Yeah, but they tried to hide it with the California BS part. They know whats up.
fennecbutt
That's not really the case. Apple are particularly vile. People were jumping from the foxcomn building to their deaths for fuck's sake. The
fennecbutt
Assembly lines they were on? iPhones. Wanna know why Apple is the most valuable company in the world? Exploitation and tax dodging.
TheHippieDrood
Yes to the exploitation but for the tax dodging no one wants to tax apple except US. I can’t remember the reason but if you want I can look.
IAmNotNSAsodonotbeparanoid
Apple is asshoe?
dunewolf
o.O posted via Iphone.. so hows it feel to support child labor practices in other countries? o.O
Mirawatts
Have been for over a decade.
leodavinci1
Apple hate has been around since Apple started. This is just more of the same BS by people who are intellectually on par with MAGAs.
Redisia
If you have any technical background I would suggest reading into what they done; 'Right to repair' & Price&Quality & Refusing to repair OR-
Redisia
inflating a repair cost 20x so that people buy new stuff. Multiple issues reported with human rights in their factories. Its a long list -
Redisia
Just because you are not aware of something does not make it 'BS' it makes you 'Ignorant' of the situation. If you want a tiny introduction-
Silnt39
As shocking as Trump not conceding.
LuminousExpanse
since i cant read the article. are they lobbying... in the USA for this? or on the world stage?
findglenn31415
“None of the reports provide solid evidence that any of Apple’s suppliers are implicated.” Source —>
findglenn31415
https://9to5mac.com/2020/10/23/apple-lobbies-uyghur-forced-labor-act/amp/
dunewolf
Sent via Iphone.. so when do you switch to Android? or are you gonna continue to support apple for future phones?
NonExistingWisper
Fuck Apple.
SnoopyDancing
The even required people to make a "free" account to watch," The great Pumpkin" this year.
majorcovert
You know you have a problem when you have to install suicide nets at your factory.
Redisia
erikleorga
ZomBob13
Dude, you're getting a Dell!
NinjaPoopy
Ethics and morals aside, I still don't understand why people pay twice as much for something that does half as much.
NonExistingWisper
Same here.
DonaldFuck
Bake it into a pie first.
NonExistingWisper
Fancy a tarte tatin?
CloudStrife668
Because how else is Apple gonna be able to mass produce their phones cheaply for unknowing US customers?
PballQhead
Vietnam and India like Samsung and LG do, they make over a third more phones than Apple with (I think) no Chinese factories anymore.
Googol30
Ha! "cheaply" he says. How funny.
CloudStrife668
I said produce. Not sell.
CloudStrife668
Aka slave labor
CloudStrife668
Also fuck Apple
CloudStrife668
And communism
CloudStrife668
And this guy
CloudStrife668
And this guy
Corrodias
I'm not allowed to read the source article, and I don't trust that a bill "aimed at" doing a good thing isn't actually written to do bad.
underestimated37
Also the article says they’re lobbying the bill but not that they’re lobbying for or against, that looks to be an assumption by the author
Corrodias
We have a lot of bills "aimed at" doing nice things like stopping sex trafficking and helping police catch criminals, when in reality they »
Corrodias
do things like destroy the safety of encryption so everything you transmit is basically free for the taking.
dirt66merchant
You have a point here, careful is the true way, wonder whats really in the bill...
dirt66merchant
Also tho, to be clear fuck Apple
BeefyByDesign
Rest of my idiot family loves apple, I've always hated it. Motorola phone here, and always will be. Unless they turn out to be assholes also
0xBADA55
making you prefer Motorola does not make you an idiot the same as them, everyone can choose their own thing
impayshunz
...no, what makes one an idiot is bitching about what OTHER people like and use. You use yours, I'll use mine.
0xBADA55
but you’re an idiot right?
impayshunz
We all are to some degree. As evidenced by your comment.
0xBADA55
Mirawatts
Motorola is a branch of Lenovo, which is Chinese owned and operated.
BeefyByDesign
As of 2014, yes.
GinOClock
LG is Korean, if I'm not mistaken... could be an option
BeefyByDesign
Since they got rid of the Moto Mods, at this point my next phone is up for grabs, lol. We'll see what's available in 3 yrs.
BeefyByDesign
I keep my phone as long as possible, so planning at least a 6yr life.
GinOClock
Me too, but I do break a lot of phones. LG's always been a trooper, especially when it hits winery moisture, vineyard dirt, warehouse floor.
GinOClock
Once in a while it politely reminds me that there's stuff in the charging port and there's a whole-ass beach in there
Cyraider
Don’t forget their new OS traces your IP, stops vpns from working properly and if it doesn’t report info back to Apple fast enough it will
Glustix
not just IP, but your activity logs including application hash, date, time, location, isp etc
Biggerbluer
I hate Apple but even this sounds extreme. Source(s)?
Glustix
https://sneak.berlin/20201112/your-computer-isnt-yours/
dduncan55330
Can I get some sauce for this taco please?
Glustix
https://sneak.berlin/20201112/your-computer-isnt-yours/
Hrafna55
https://www.techrepublic.com/article/security-experts-level-criticism-at-apple-after-big-sur-launch-issues/ Apple say its for your 'safety'.
YouMayFindThisMildlyInteresting
No because it's all lies https://blog.jacopo.io/en/post/apple-ocsp/
impayshunz
https://www.theverge.com/2020/11/16/21569316/apple-mac-ocsp-server-developer-id-authentication-privacy-concerns-encryption-promises-fix
dunewolf
Whats funny about you saying that.. is your using an IPHONE to post it.. lol
Cyraider
Stop you from opening your apps/programs. And they are also fighting against the right to repair bill.
TheCoachAdair
What’s the right to repair bill?
SomeKid
Got a source?
ilsalta
The apps thing is wrong.
Vengeraxe
And after about 7 months of updates..start getting slower and slower again.
StillChasingFireflies
As someone with no cell service at my house and shit internet this would suck. Luckily, I use Android.
emberthegoat
I knew they hated the right to repair but I had never heard of the VPN restrictions. That's new, isn't it?
ilsalta
I dunno about the VPN thing but the disabled apps thing is outright wrong.
bashshell
Holy shit lol. Now i need to make sure the linux android I'm running cant do that, not like I'm important but still damn lol
Tarmaccian
It does, because it’s a security feature. Somebody didn’t understand, freaked out, and now there’s more FUD being spread in the world.
bashshell
grassy-ass! Now I know. :)
steerAwwPrincess
As does any cloud based app from, windows and chrome. Stop it Rudy, your ink is running
Mirawatts
If I open messages on my phone I'm not using a cloud based app though?
steerAwwPrincess
Where are your messages coming from?
Mirawatts
My service provider, not Apple, for one thing.
vincentsl
You could be, if you also enable iCloud.
Mirawatts
I have Android, for starter. Also iCloud would be backing up messages. So Apple inserting themselves into my phone app.
impotence
Holy shit talk about fear mongering. The VPN is due to network extensions in BS and will likely be changed. Gatekeeper checks are absolutely
TLUL
Argument: while Apple didn't intend it to be spyware, it still enables spying: https://sneak.berlin/20201112/your-computer-isnt-yours/
Tarmaccian
That article makes a textbook example for FUD. It has some good information, then jumps to a terrible conclusion.
impotence
Kitchen knives are intended for cooking, but I can still murder 52 kids with one. Welcome to fear mongering. You got a cell phone? Yep.
TLUL
also fwiw I'm not the one who downvoted you, discussion is good, we should only downvote posts that are made in bad faith
TLUL
We try not to expose knives to known murderers. We try not to expose data to govts that spy. Outcry drew attn, so Apple fixed. This is good.
impotence
Not even close to preventing you from opening apps. Apple actually put out an article because of people like you
impotence
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202491#view:~:text=Privacy%20protections
VladimirsKacs
Baughr
Hmm. You know if samsung is doing any shady shit like this? Or are all phone companies just as bad?
MrJelle
Apple is a fashion company whose products happen to often contain electronics.
Mirawatts
Nope. They still sell your info for ads, but Apple is always the worst faith company toward it's users.
iHateMyselfButIHateYouMore
Almost like the cult-like following allows for an extra layer of abuse
Tarmaccian
What’s described is actually a standard security feature, and all major OSes support it under various names.
MutaPerse
Slowly but shortly everything is grabbing your money
iHateMyselfButIHateYouMore
Fucking moto keeps bricking my G-series phones when it wants new handset sales (oops new "features" updates killed it teehee)
dart223
All of us get nerfed after 2 or 3 years. I dread each "update" as I know its slowing it down to make me buy one I cant afford
Mirawatts
Apple is doing that with their $2,000 laptops and phones as well. It's all bullshit.
StillBreathin
I always think - the bigger the company, the greedier it is, the less ethical it acts and therefore bigger damage it will cause.
Tarmaccian
OTOH, the bigger companies can invest in security and actually try to do things right, where small ones cut corners and hide their faults.
StillBreathin
Speaking from experience working for corporate as well as small companies. The corners cut by big companies is the real problem. That's why》
StillBreathin
《We have something called regulations. Only big companies have enough money to spend on lawyers to break or work around them...
Glustix
if apple can do it and people still buying it, why shouldnt everybody else not doing it?
Mirawatts
Apple does bad thing first, then everyone gets out their hate and buy it anyway. Then other manufacturers do the same thing.
Glustix
yet, we still allow them to add more and more bad things that we dont really want in our device
Mirawatts
I'd say vote with your wallet, but at this point you're more likely to get federal intervention before common sense for the masses.