ChemistryAndPhysicsAreFun
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Sep 3, 2017 3:03 AM
ChemistryAndPhysicsAreFun
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SnezDrew
Get a OnePlus 5.
iputthefiresout
See also, micro transactions, season passes, pre orders, DLC, etc etc....
dentpuzz
as a musician, the Iphone went from a must have, to a 'why the fuck would i want this now' due to this...
OmikronWeapon
Too bad most consumers are too addicted to their shit. "I can't live without a new phone, guess I'll buy the one I hate the least"
quickbrownfoxhumpsthelazydog
Bought a budget Android for $200, rooted it and upgraded to Nougat 7.1........Never been happier...
madpoopz
Somebody needs to make a Bluetooth headphone jack.
InnerUniverse
I don't understand the desire to replace an old phone that isn't defective in some way.
SINisterWyvern
Shoulda been a slowpoke meme. This is a year old non-issue
DerNacho
I love my iPhone 7 plus. But then I don't use headphones, so....
boastfultoaster
Then show me a smartphone that takes 4 AA batteries in it so I can support them by buying that.
pfsar
You'd probably be replacing those 4 AAS multiple times a day. That's awful for the environment.
InJenius
Hence why i bought an LG G6...headphone jack, usb-c port, and charges full in less than 1.5hr.
TGIBallsWorth
Phone still has a headphone jack and I haven't used wired earbuds in 2 years
SomethingsNotQuiteRight
They can drop headphone jacks when usb-c headphones are as cheap as regular headphones and are just as common in stores.
LiveBackwards1911
Thank you Captain Hindsight.
R3stAssur3d
TravNel
supply/demand/ignorance
am0k
To their defense I haven't used corded headphones with my phone for 2 years and most people where I work don't either.
DarkAtlasRising
More like Supply/Demand/Forced Acceptance/Idle Acceptance
SnivellusSnape
My bluetooth earphones are my beloved! Phone in handbag and no stupid fucking tangles. And i use an Android.
GnomeDeGuerre
There are more than 1 customer.
kerperflernberger
I always use Samsung, it's more practical for Life than an Iphone.
Bystandr
There is a disconnect in that logic, because many people buy out of brand loyalty and other reasons. Also, companies are giving less choice.
rando53
What? Why do you care? Just buy an adapter and quit complaining.
ShimmerFairy
And where, pray tell, does the adapter go on the phone?
pfsar
The adapter goes in the Lightning port. And you don't even have to buy one: the phone comes with a free adapter in the box.
OrangeCatFluffyCatBrownCatChubbyCat
I'm sorry OP. You're completely right. I contributed to this! And I have much regret and self loathing.
Atomic2
Yes, because we choose to buy phones simply because of one attribute. https://m.popkey.co/1c786e/kvKXd.gif
Lionskull
when all the flagship phones are pretty much the same except for a few attributes, yes I do.
DreadPierateRoberts
Well you can
whywasfr0hstalreadytaken
"Branding" - That's pretty much one attribute isn't it? We could go a bit further and say "UX" but that's about it.
DeepwaterJew
We're not buying them. Gullible teenagers who think new means "best" are.
iamthisguy247
I had an iPhone 5 then 6s. This will be my last iPhone most likely. They are heading down a path I cannot follow them on.
PirateRubberDuck
They did that 10 years ago for me. Enjoy having a better phone in the future.
Nihelus
Despite not liking Apple I'll keep following them since I have an iPad and an iPod too. Don't want to restart with apps.
NewtonWren
They're not making iPods either now,
Nihelus
Yes they are. They're only making the iPod touch now. That's the only kind of iPod I've ever owned personally.
spacecatts
You're breaking my heart anakin
tr3buchet
I'm with you! Same phone, still think it's too big though. 5s was the best phone ever.
fred28056
Look into the sony xperia XZ Compact. Flagship phone in smaller form factor.
tr3buchet
No ios.. lame
N8DGAF
Agreed, I have the 6s also and I doubt I'll get another iPhone. Especially since the new one doesn't have a home button now
Broadway2
All the phones...atleast the higher end models...are going that route
NatiLite
I would recommend checking out the Motorala line. I have a Z force Droid. Doesn't have a headphone jack but comes with FREE adapter.
NordicusMaximus
I'm all fairness, the iPhone 7 and newer all come with a free headphone adapter too, for any 3.5mm standard headphones. It's about 1.5" long
NatiLite
I did the whole itouch stuff and was never a fan of the simplistic design of the iPhone. The camera quality is horrible for what you pay for
NatiLite
Chose this over the Samsung because the camera quality is way better.
IFrequentlyNoticeRelevantUsernames
This is the way the market is moving. It is rumored that the Pixel 2 will not have a headphones jack. Bluetooth headphones are cheap now.
tr3buchet
Yeah? They also can't survive single transatlantic flight.. fucking useless
PullTheLeverCronk
How many transatlantic flights do you go on? Maybe take an adapter
tr3buchet
What i do is just take regular god damned headphones... this part of the future where everything takes batteries is backasswards and stupid
PullTheLeverCronk
Oh I know lol I frequently use the phrase dongle hellscape
abetteridiot
Was my conclusion with laptops a few years ago. When this one goes, nothing in their lineup works for me anymore.
UrdnotJoeVasNormandy
That last sentence suddenly got read in Padme's voice
technobass
irespondwithsimpsonsquotes
pfsar
The 3.5mm audio jack is basically a 19th Century bit of kit: it's a mini version of the 0.25 inch jack (6.35mm), which dates from 1878. 1/2
pfsar
Replacing it with something newer is long overdue. Unfortunately nobody (not even the IEEE) wanted to deal with replacing it. 2/2
DrSparken
No replacement is due at all. There is no possibility for improvement; it exceeds human perception by a significant margin alraedy.
pfsar
Yes, but it's become a design limitation. You could have a MP3 player that's barely thicker than a credit card if there was a suitable jack.
silvermoon88
I never understood the love of these devices being more and more thin. It seems too flimsy, would rather have something more solid
pfsar
Just look at the obsession with ever slimmer phones. A credit card-sized MP3 player would be nice, though. Lots of music in your wallet.
malexmatt
Man, when are they going to replace the wheel? It's like, thousands of years old!...Some form factors are proof against obsolescence
pfsar
You're comparing this to the wheel? Do I really need to tell you how ridiculous that sounds?
DrSparken
and MP3 players aren't really a thing any more, phones are and have too much tech for that. They also aren't replacing it, they're 1/
DrSparken
removing the jack entirely. You can put a jack into the charge port, but that, y'know, precludes charging, the point of it. 2/2
pfsar
People still buy MP3 players. And I was only using them to make the point. The same jack is also a design limitation for smartphones.
N8DGAF
All I want is for them to have as good a camera as Samsung, HTC, LG, WINDOWS etc. but no they get rid of shit like the home button and hfj
N8DGAF
Hfj is for head phone jack, but I just realized I'm dumb and should have put HPJ...... eh whatever you get what I meant.
ajpimpsalll
it's all good. you just spelled it... fonetically
troubledanthropomorphichorse
This is somewhat true, but reality isn't that simple. Trusts and monopolies defy the free market.
MaladaptedMedic
Fair,but if enough free market consumers simply decided not to buy into hype and propaganda,the phones would revert back to having the jacks
iamtiredofmakingnewusernames
Point of sale guys push them, management pushes them, they manipulate on-hand stock to only have the shiny new one. Guessing at least (1)
iamtiredofmakingnewusernames
(2) 50% of cell phone owners never use headphones anyway. Their kids might complain but guess who pays the bill.
whywasfr0hstalreadytaken
"Somewhat true" sort of sells the title short does it not? The iPhone isn't exactly a risky gamble on innovation, not these days anyway.
justonhereforlaughs
Doesn't change the fact that if as little of 15% of committed customers had abandoned backless phones, they would not be in production
Seali44
Didnt know Apple had a monopoly on smartphones. Always thought they have like a 30% market share.
StoneThrowingDevil
They don't have an actual monopoly, but probably a kind of brand monopoly, people consider them to be the best, regardless of numbers
troubledanthropomorphichorse
The number I found was 43%, but you don't need a monopoly to influence the market.
Seali44
Yeah influencing sounds more reasonable than defying.
troubledanthropomorphichorse
It's the same thing. Anything that influences the market defies the free market. Influence obviates freedom.
Seali44
PLease define the free market without influence from every participent.
2ti6x
tell me more about how there is no alternatives on the market to phones without headphone jacks.
troubledanthropomorphichorse
I never made that claim. A trust is a business with enough market power to force such a change. It doesn't mean there's no alternative.
DrMichaelMcQueeferton
Straw man fallacy.
Dingus2
But the phone with the apple on it is better because it costs 5x as much.
wehadtodrinkourwayout
Samsung galaxy s8 = about 600$ Apple iPhone 7 = about 600$ Your point?
surlistyc
S8 - 2x8 core cpu. 4gb ram. 571ppi. iPhone7 - 1x4 core cpu. 2gb ram. 326ppi. S8 is more than 2x the phone (spec wise) for the same price.
DevilsArsehole
Many Apple consumers are almost locked in because lack of interoperability between their platform and others. Highly anticompetitive.
Melanisia
Especially when all the apps, music, movies, ect, you have are on the apple platform.
AncientSeraph
Almost everyone saw that problem coming from miles away, though.
GreenFox
It's iPhone's fault. They can do whatever they want, sell like hotcakes, & everyone else says "wait, we can do that? and get away with it?"
Calisius
Like they don't even put the miraculous back button on their phones, what the heck >:(
crazyspelling
This.
blazinsmokey
A simple swipe gesture works in 99% of apps as well as a virtual one in the menu bar and one in the status bar which goes to prev app.
Calisius
but the back button isn't always there on the app, leaving the app isn't normally needed and the back button isn't always in the same place
blazinsmokey
See... https://youtu.be/MAWhVWfxTmU
blazinsmokey
Swipe gesture. You don't need a button to go back. Swipe from left edge of screen towards the right and it goes back to previous page.
Calisius
If that works with things like games, then that'd really suck I: and if it doesn't, then the previous point still applies.
RoTaLuMe
things i care about a smartphone: 1080 display, 10h batt. lifetime, sd-slot, cpu and ram fast enough to hold for some years. any suggestions
DeltaBlast
You should also care about an IR blaster. Life is so much easier if your phone is also a universal remote.
GoldenSun3DS
You want a 1080P display and a 10 hour battery life? Good luck with that. Unless you mean standby, but then that's not hard to achieve.
squirreltactics
Also, I really like my LGv20.
llortamai
ZTE Axon 7
NaughtButOne
10 hours of doing what? I picked up an Xperia Z3 a year ago, and have been really happy with it. Battery lasts a work shift of Youtube, 8h+.
rattleballs
Check out the ASUS Zenfone 3 Zoom. 5000mah battery, great screen, sd slot up to 2tb, great camera, and it's only $300.
domefossil
Isn't Asus infamous for putting out buggy phones that don't last more than a few months out of the box?
squirreltactics
All that for me and a REMOVABLE BATTERY... Looking at you Samsung.
JustAnotherPOG
Motorola makes some pretty good phones.
Gatadata
i honeslty would not care if the phones were twice or even three times as thick as the current styles are. i want tech in there
JohnnyNT
Xiaomi Redmi Note 4
smashpro1
Moto Z.
DrMcTouchy
I second this. Just a great piece of hardware.
domefossil
Sony Xperia xz premium, it has a 4k screen, quad core processor, 4gb ram, up to 256gb expandable memory, super slomo camera ,3230mAh battery
SwiftArrow
The Samsung Note 8. I've gotten a chance to play with it, and if you're willing to drop almost $1000 it'll meet all those requirements.
squishybaker
huawei honor 9, lasts a full day with heavy usage, day- day and half with moderate usage, also and it's around £400 so it's pretty cheap.
igotasweetass
Can confirm Huawei has mad battery life.
DiabloPablo
Im on the P10 Lite and I love it. Except it's slippery as fuck. It falls off every surface you lay it on.
GoldenSun3DS
I have a Galaxy S6. I won't upgrade until a smartphone comes out with a 4K screen (mine is 1440P). Galaxy S6 is good enough for a long time.
domefossil
Sony Xperia xz premium has a 4k screen, also remote play for the ps4
GoldenSun3DS
Even then, I'd only want a 4K screen on a smartphone for the sake of being able to say it has more pixels than I could possibly see for sure
pixelsnader
How important is 1080p to you? Me and some friends are big fans of the Sony Xperia compact line. One of my biggest concerns was batterylife~
pixelsnader
because I was a bus driver at the time and had long/variable days. Even on 15+ hour days of nonstop spotifys treaming it stayed alive. It's~
pixelsnader
Not the most sexy phone to some, but I like its subdued look, smaller formfactor, and it's a very reliable thing. Great cam too, if ya care.