Mar 15, 2017 2:21 PM
SupaJon
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So cool!!!!
Volimar
What is this, a superconductor magnetic levitation train for ants?
SteelMakesMeHard
Quantum locking is pretty fantastic
griffin4cats
That's not the coolest part IMO. You can move it around, position it. Even flip the track upside down and it still works.
rodgertheshrubber
HonestbutSweetAboutIt
That was a lot of complicated words in one sentence
Phischstaebchen
yay! quantum-lock
elloitsme
A what now?
tapemeasurepencilpenmouse
How does it stop?
TheFreezingSwede
buttpunch13
These are cool for like 2 sec until u realize the amount of material and energy needed to make this scalable.
TropicalFishMakeExcellentBetweenMealSnacks
"Train"?
Juggernaughtty
whyteraven74
For anyone wondering, the way a magnet floats over a superconductor is known as the Meissner Effect.
Ipostdoges
So due to inertia and a near complete lack of friction this thing should go on for a very long time. Only air particles will slow it down?
itsallmckay
Go UBC!
Astroboy32
There are dozens of us!
ForeverVoteless
ThatsPermanent
Warning: secondhand Superconductor Magnetic Levitation Train smoke is just as deadly as Superconductor Magnetic Levitation Train smoke!!
DavidBrooker
Its water condensing / crystallizing out of the air.
So it's exactly as deadly as any other water condensing / crystallizing out of the air! Good to know.
amorphis760
Witchcraft!!! Bring the logs boys we have witches to burn!
DrakisKellroth
Anyone else notice that magnet looks a bit like an F-Zero racer?
SuperTacticalSandwich
Magnets. How do they work?
ChiefMasterAirmanFirstClassSelectInCharge
Fuckin' miracles!
crosenfi
But won't we need giants to push the normal-sized trains?
tebbsie
I pictured smoking trains and thought how awesome the future would be then I realised...
Bandignomette
Woah the comments in this post are pretty salty!
Ermano300
Neat.
tackleberry06
My biography I presume.
ArchQuantum
Dear Elon...
themediumlebowski
Wyd? U up?
YetAnotherQualityPostFromAbortedFetusNecrophiliac
I wrote you but you still ain't callin
CapableTechnology
http://imgur.com/4m14kLx
Nalianna
Please don't distract Elon, he's currently repairing my countries electricity network. :D
Sogeking
Blastergv9
...bring money
GrizzlyWicks
had to wipe a tear after that chuckle
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
...leave females?
DoubleSecretAgent
...300 pounds of bacon...
aidanthib
Drunkeroc
Look up hyperloop, he is already there.
I know, that's why I put that, he needs to
Hobbityone
You mean the glorious deathtrap, check out Thunderf00t
davebeastly
He's not actually developing it though.
Never said he was.
You said he was already there. He isn't there.
Cheomesh
https://youtu.be/RNFesa01llk
I am not going to listen to a biochemist.
Science man vs Money man and you back the guy with the cash.
I back the guy with cash that can pay for people in the study of his choosing not the biochemist.
konnigvanmessen
Just begs the question: how does one stop such a train?
That is not what "begging the question" is.
evolution4407
Spider-Man.
ohnoanotherputz
just make it end at a wall.
DrMooses
Nerf
IllegalBeagle
To "beg the question" is to assume the very thing you are trying to prove in an argument. I'll show myself out.
Cisforstupidthatsgoodenoughforme
This should work: v
Erbee
magnets?
nablasound
Separate induction brakes
barnwolf
When you run out of money to build track, so after about 150 feet.
DespiseEveryone
Drop a wheel, brake as usual.
Also the same magnetic forces that propel it forward (a finger push is used here, without a push it would hover) can be used to slow down.
HenryHernandez24
Duh, with an anchor.
LoligoTX
Tie a rope to a giant metal M and use it as an anchor.
Iankill
Underrated post
Is it Batman?-No, it's a scientist- Batman's a scientist- It's not Batman!
dogfavoriter
Holes in the floor, Flintstone-style.
Moosecock
Yabba Dabba Don't
Chinese bridge
Mohaynow
Air breaks
allover789am101
Broken...
arekanderu
HAH
huffdogg
Brakes
Brokes.
BobcatZoidberg
*brakes
MilDravin
heat it up... it's only 'frictionless' when super chilled with liquid nitro
That won't be expensive.
ErinFromTheOffice
well, it is a magnet of sorts, that's why it levitates. quick n simple:: the super chill keeps the mag field from flipping it etc etc
RamAssScratcher
The track is a magnet the superconductor is the object. You can see the same effect witha magnet dropped through a copper tube 1/2
However since copper is not a super conductor the magnet falls through but at a much decreased rate the maths behind is really cool 2/2
Apeofdeath
Japan's bullet trains ride on magnets
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
There's also China's German-built Transrapid train. Developed back in the 1960s, ate lots of tax money. Now the only line is in Shanghai
Turns out it's way too costly to operate. Regular German ICE high-speed trains are almost as fast and much cheaper
Not the ones in service, those run on standard rail. But their developmental maglev trains do, yes.
GeorgeHWBushsGhost
But they aren't superconducting. Making it superconducting would change it all.
implodingrat
how so?
As another user said, they are still on rail, but by making them maglevs it removes the friction that would be present on a track and ->
<-allows the train to go much faster as a consequense.
How does that differentiate between electrodynamic and electromagnetic systems? That's just conventional versus maglev.
Well, electrodynamic systems are the electromagnetic suspension systems used on maglevs.
That is patently false. Japan's current maglev designs are superconducting, this is easily verified by a cursory Google search.
Press release: http://english.jr-central.co.jp/company/company/others/high-speed-rail/high-speed-rail.html
Detail: http://english.jr-central.co.jp/company/company/others/data-book/_pdf/2012.pdf
In both sources you provided it states that the superconducting train is a test train.
Of course they are. The only maglev trains Japan has ever operated have all been test trains. Talking about Japanese maglev trains 1/2
explicitly means you're talking about full-scale engineering test articles. They've all been superconducting since 1994. 2/2
Ecne
when we will make superconductor that will work in normal temperature.. then it will be awesome
oyoyoyyyyy
There was a paper on arXiv on "373K superconductors". Never really panned out...
LucienTheLuckless
Awesome except for the genicide of the Navi people.
TonyBalogna
Just freeze train down to absolute zero. I don't see what the problem is. People will just have to bundle up.
ZazzRazzamatazz
Reverse Snowpiercer!
Iamnotcreativywithusernames
Watch the movie Primer its on Netflix. That explains everything
crimbadabim
Earlier this year Harvard researchers claimed to have created metallic hydrogen which may open the possibility of such a thing
pwnscon3
They were saying it was useful as a solid rocket fuel, but no mention of superconducting qualities from what I heard
TheBlueGenie
That's the claim. But the diamonds were coated with aluminum oxide to harden the diamonds under of pressure. More conclusions needed
Malus1n1
And then they lost it!
Tehsyr
It evaporated.
DontBeSheep
I like to think the Russians stole it
DorthLous
Sublimed, rather. No liquid transition.
Hepwolfx
No they literally just lost it. Metallic hydrogen is predicted to be meta-stable. Meaning it will stay solid once created.
ThoseSheepAreFareAway
Ahhh yes using Hydrogen for transport. Super safe
It depends on how much you need to stay off the tracks - the difficulty is keeping it at tens of gigapascals.
puddin151
hydrogen is only slightly more dangerous than gasoline, it still needs a spark to ignite
ScootyPuffSr
Did you drive today? Then you burned hydrogen for transport. It was just tied to a bunch of carbon to keep it safe.
What relevance does it have regarding safety? Carrying NaCl is nowhere near the same as carrying Na and Cl.
That's like saying I had sodium, calcium and chlorine for breakfast.
ribrars
I like a bit of hydrocarbons in the morning
And you did.
Volimar
What is this, a superconductor magnetic levitation train for ants?
SteelMakesMeHard
Quantum locking is pretty fantastic
griffin4cats
That's not the coolest part IMO. You can move it around, position it. Even flip the track upside down and it still works.
rodgertheshrubber
HonestbutSweetAboutIt
That was a lot of complicated words in one sentence
Phischstaebchen
yay! quantum-lock
elloitsme
A what now?
tapemeasurepencilpenmouse
How does it stop?
TheFreezingSwede
buttpunch13
These are cool for like 2 sec until u realize the amount of material and energy needed to make this scalable.
TropicalFishMakeExcellentBetweenMealSnacks
"Train"?
Juggernaughtty
whyteraven74
For anyone wondering, the way a magnet floats over a superconductor is known as the Meissner Effect.
Ipostdoges
So due to inertia and a near complete lack of friction this thing should go on for a very long time. Only air particles will slow it down?
itsallmckay
Go UBC!
Astroboy32
There are dozens of us!
ForeverVoteless
ThatsPermanent
Warning: secondhand Superconductor Magnetic Levitation Train smoke is just as deadly as Superconductor Magnetic Levitation Train smoke!!
DavidBrooker
Its water condensing / crystallizing out of the air.
ThatsPermanent
So it's exactly as deadly as any other water condensing / crystallizing out of the air! Good to know.
amorphis760
Witchcraft!!! Bring the logs boys we have witches to burn!
DrakisKellroth
Anyone else notice that magnet looks a bit like an F-Zero racer?
SuperTacticalSandwich
Magnets. How do they work?
ChiefMasterAirmanFirstClassSelectInCharge
Fuckin' miracles!
crosenfi
But won't we need giants to push the normal-sized trains?
tebbsie
I pictured smoking trains and thought how awesome the future would be then I realised...
Bandignomette
Woah the comments in this post are pretty salty!
Ermano300
Neat.
tackleberry06
My biography I presume.
ArchQuantum
Dear Elon...
themediumlebowski
Wyd? U up?
YetAnotherQualityPostFromAbortedFetusNecrophiliac
I wrote you but you still ain't callin
CapableTechnology
http://imgur.com/4m14kLx
Nalianna
Please don't distract Elon, he's currently repairing my countries electricity network. :D
Sogeking
Blastergv9
...bring money
GrizzlyWicks
had to wipe a tear after that chuckle
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
...leave females?
DoubleSecretAgent
...300 pounds of bacon...
aidanthib
Drunkeroc
Look up hyperloop, he is already there.
ArchQuantum
I know, that's why I put that, he needs to
Hobbityone
You mean the glorious deathtrap, check out Thunderf00t
davebeastly
He's not actually developing it though.
Drunkeroc
Never said he was.
davebeastly
You said he was already there. He isn't there.
Cheomesh
https://youtu.be/RNFesa01llk
Drunkeroc
I am not going to listen to a biochemist.
Cheomesh
Science man vs Money man and you back the guy with the cash.
Drunkeroc
I back the guy with cash that can pay for people in the study of his choosing not the biochemist.
konnigvanmessen
Just begs the question: how does one stop such a train?
Cheomesh
That is not what "begging the question" is.
evolution4407
Spider-Man.
ohnoanotherputz
just make it end at a wall.
DrMooses
Nerf
IllegalBeagle
To "beg the question" is to assume the very thing you are trying to prove in an argument. I'll show myself out.
Cisforstupidthatsgoodenoughforme
This should work:
v
Erbee
magnets?
nablasound
Separate induction brakes
barnwolf
When you run out of money to build track, so after about 150 feet.
DespiseEveryone
Drop a wheel, brake as usual.
DespiseEveryone
Also the same magnetic forces that propel it forward (a finger push is used here, without a push it would hover) can be used to slow down.
HenryHernandez24
Duh, with an anchor.
LoligoTX
Tie a rope to a giant metal M and use it as an anchor.
Iankill
Underrated post
IllegalBeagle
Is it Batman?-No, it's a scientist- Batman's a scientist- It's not Batman!
dogfavoriter
Holes in the floor, Flintstone-style.
Moosecock
Yabba Dabba Don't
ThatsPermanent
Chinese bridge
Mohaynow
Air breaks
allover789am101
Broken...
arekanderu
HAH
huffdogg
Brakes
Mohaynow
Brokes.
BobcatZoidberg
*brakes
MilDravin
heat it up... it's only 'frictionless' when super chilled with liquid nitro
Drunkeroc
That won't be expensive.
ErinFromTheOffice
MilDravin
well, it is a magnet of sorts, that's why it levitates. quick n simple:: the super chill keeps the mag field from flipping it etc etc
RamAssScratcher
The track is a magnet the superconductor is the object. You can see the same effect witha magnet dropped through a copper tube 1/2
RamAssScratcher
However since copper is not a super conductor the magnet falls through but at a much decreased rate the maths behind is really cool 2/2
Apeofdeath
Japan's bullet trains ride on magnets
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
There's also China's German-built Transrapid train. Developed back in the 1960s, ate lots of tax money. Now the only line is in Shanghai
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Turns out it's way too costly to operate. Regular German ICE high-speed trains are almost as fast and much cheaper
DavidBrooker
Not the ones in service, those run on standard rail. But their developmental maglev trains do, yes.
GeorgeHWBushsGhost
But they aren't superconducting. Making it superconducting would change it all.
implodingrat
how so?
GeorgeHWBushsGhost
As another user said, they are still on rail, but by making them maglevs it removes the friction that would be present on a track and ->
GeorgeHWBushsGhost
<-allows the train to go much faster as a consequense.
DavidBrooker
How does that differentiate between electrodynamic and electromagnetic systems? That's just conventional versus maglev.
GeorgeHWBushsGhost
Well, electrodynamic systems are the electromagnetic suspension systems used on maglevs.
DavidBrooker
That is patently false. Japan's current maglev designs are superconducting, this is easily verified by a cursory Google search.
DavidBrooker
Press release: http://english.jr-central.co.jp/company/company/others/high-speed-rail/high-speed-rail.html
DavidBrooker
Detail: http://english.jr-central.co.jp/company/company/others/data-book/_pdf/2012.pdf
GeorgeHWBushsGhost
In both sources you provided it states that the superconducting train is a test train.
DavidBrooker
Of course they are. The only maglev trains Japan has ever operated have all been test trains. Talking about Japanese maglev trains 1/2
DavidBrooker
explicitly means you're talking about full-scale engineering test articles. They've all been superconducting since 1994. 2/2
Ecne
when we will make superconductor that will work in normal temperature.. then it will be awesome
oyoyoyyyyy
There was a paper on arXiv on "373K superconductors". Never really panned out...
LucienTheLuckless
Awesome except for the genicide of the Navi people.
TonyBalogna
Just freeze train down to absolute zero. I don't see what the problem is. People will just have to bundle up.
ZazzRazzamatazz
Reverse Snowpiercer!
Iamnotcreativywithusernames
Watch the movie Primer its on Netflix. That explains everything
crimbadabim
Earlier this year Harvard researchers claimed to have created metallic hydrogen which may open the possibility of such a thing
pwnscon3
They were saying it was useful as a solid rocket fuel, but no mention of superconducting qualities from what I heard
TheBlueGenie
That's the claim. But the diamonds were coated with aluminum oxide to harden the diamonds under of pressure. More conclusions needed
Malus1n1
And then they lost it!
Tehsyr
It evaporated.
DontBeSheep
I like to think the Russians stole it
DorthLous
Sublimed, rather. No liquid transition.
Hepwolfx
No they literally just lost it. Metallic hydrogen is predicted to be meta-stable. Meaning it will stay solid once created.
ThoseSheepAreFareAway
Ahhh yes using Hydrogen for transport. Super safe
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
It depends on how much you need to stay off the tracks - the difficulty is keeping it at tens of gigapascals.
puddin151
hydrogen is only slightly more dangerous than gasoline, it still needs a spark to ignite
ScootyPuffSr
Did you drive today? Then you burned hydrogen for transport. It was just tied to a bunch of carbon to keep it safe.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
What relevance does it have regarding safety? Carrying NaCl is nowhere near the same as carrying Na and Cl.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
That's like saying I had sodium, calcium and chlorine for breakfast.
ribrars
I like a bit of hydrocarbons in the morning
ScootyPuffSr
And you did.