May 31, 2022 5:29 AM
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eightyearplan
https://www.pcgamer.com/au/enough-cyberpunkits-solarpunks-time-to-shine/
LurkerOfDarkness
TNG 7x01 Descent, part II.
SinisterSlaw
"StAr TrEk Is WoKe NoW" \
ahernandez
Technically Star Trek warns tomorrow will be a nuclear waste land and tomorrows tomorrow could be cool.
badairdayyay
So, You’re saying we could live long & prosper?
robin404
We're so F'ed
mcgravin
Alpha, Beta, Delta, Gamma, Moana, Thelma?
bluerazzgummy
Just don't show him any new trek lmao
scoutMoonDiver
We’re doomed
djangojazz
Pretty much episode 1 of Strange New Worlds is all about now and Civil War and what happened in Star Treks fictional future.
LjubljanaJeNajlepseMestoNaSvetu
Isnt star treck set after a nuclear war on earth
Yes.
therealscottstam
So what you are saying is we are all screwed
Hooksan
Funny (or fittingly) enough my wife and I just watched 'Yesterday's Enterprise' last night.
bixby66
Star Trek is technically post apocalyptic just very post.
ThereAreCrocodiles
The future is Yvonne Craig painted green.
happywalker
Becker37
So it'll most certainly not be a better place
graehall
FoxPesdassi
Those randomly-generated numbers contain far too many 7s, and almost no 5s at all.
DukePhelan
Didn't world war three take place before the rise of the federation complete with a nuclear exchange?
derthric
WWIII is mid 21st Century, then we have First Contact in 2063 then spend about 90 years rebuilding, In 2150's we get Archer and the NX-01.
PowerPedant
What I get from this is that LCARS has *really* bad UI design, in impressively many ways.
Lampmonster
My alert sound is the TNG chirp and my ringtone is the flute music from The Inner Light.
tremolo
Moana , Thelma anyone?
giraffinator
One of the reasons why I loved Star Trek TNG was that it fast forwarded past all the nonsense where everyone just got along for the good
Dannoboyo
The sad thing about humans is that civilization is but a thin veneer covering up vermin. Many prefer to be angry killer primates.
TheArrestingAbhorrentArrantAbominableAlliterator
I'm 41. I've only just started to realize how many adults are just ... well, animals. They don't think. They just react. They believe...
their first thought is right because it's their thought. They've never learned to not be controled their emotions. Or to think critically
whether that is critically of a concept, critically of others, or - perhaps most importantly - critically of themselves.
LordHosk
Star Trek in fact promises that the current world will be burned down in blood, tears, and fire, BEFORE the utopia.
Star Trek's history contains, Sanctuary districts, 3 Eugenics Wars, and a Nuclear World War 3 which cracks and sinks southern California.
People often forget that part. When the Vulcans arrive North America has been reduced to small "tribes" gathered around resource hubs.
smellsmiketeenspirit
In which media is that part developed ?
Specifically the "small tribes" bit? Thats in First Contact and Enterprise.
It's weird I do not remember this. Specifically the "small tribes instead of the US or North America/Canada".
RawSuger
its so weird US was this in 60s and even partly in 80s, and then just degenerated into trumpism and reaganism
EverNotRelevant
Authoritarianism is really seductive if you're not well prepared.
LuminoZero
"Vigilance, Mr Worf. That is the price we must continuously pay." -Jean-Luc Picard, 'The Drumhead'
Bad schools, low pay, and Right Wing Propaganda news.
almost entirely the propaganda though, schools dont do shit vs propaganda, plentyy of trumpists and fascists are educated
Sometimesithinkimcanadianbutimnotsorry
Not properly.
they are, ivy league and shit. dont be naive. education does not annul human nature - and you can be educated in many directions
2) the only way to stop propaganda is to ban it. there is no free speech without a good amount of control of speech, as paradoxicl as it is
oddmog
And not just the US, Australia had Howard who was Trump and Reagan combined and we just get worse and worse.
fucking murloch and his media poison
Yup, trouble is, not just Murdoch down here we have ninefairfax and seven which are same same and stacked and defunded government media.
AwesomeName
Because a world where everyone is well off is a threat to people who are well off now. Rather mess up everything than give up privilege.
I will never get the 'it's not enough for me to win others must lose' crowd and I really hope I never become like that.
If you ever see someone reading Ayn Rand, smack that fucking book out of their hands.
tracereading
Dumb old metalhead yesterday was trying to tell me Reagan was a good president. Good for what exactly?
destroying the american dream by replacing it with reaganomics?
Itsonporpoise
Look man, can we not lump in old metal heads with that crowd, ok?
if they're a die-hard Trumplican we have to, dude.
mcharend
Lumping is prejudice at its core. One doesn’t “have to” do anything. That’s a choice.
Dude being an old metalhead doesn't mean he can't have shitty politics and buy into that idea that Republicans are good for society.
levelfivedetentionblockaa23
dart223
Oooo
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
And this is why I don't like the criticism that Picard is "too perfect". He is an example of what humanity can be. He's an aspirational /1
figure. Not to mention that he did have a few screw-ups. But the important thing with him is the way he grapples with problems, looks at /2
all sides, and purposely chooses the one that does the least harm, or that is the most just. /3
Horus175
Also remember that WWIII happened at some point before we had the Federation.
akefay
In 2024 the US had withdrawn from NATO to avoid being pulled into WW3 with China. Poor people rounded up in concentration camps. 1/2
News of poor conditions / slaughter were ignored as fake and cops shot anybody with a camera. When cops shot some white people though...
TheWombatStrikesAgain
How would the non-US NATO even start a war with China? Did China annex Russia first or did Canada get like reeeally cocky?
It's not elaborated on (except probably in novels). Eugenics Wars ravage Eurasia, US goes "America First" but later joins in, nuclear war.
DatDarthCaedus
The Bell Riots, Second American Civil War, Eugenic Wars, WW3, and nuclear holocaust that killed 30% of the global population. Followed by 1/
humanity FINALLY going "You know what, we REALLY need to do better than this"... and even then Star Trek has been quite clear that it's 2/
not just a "one and done"; you have to constantly fight for what is right, or risk losing it. It's hard work, but well worth it in the end.
PerpetualExhaustion
“Vigilance. That is the price we must continually pay.”
I remember the Eugenics War on TOS and the Bell Riots on DS9. Is the rest from SNW? Or am I forgetting something.
SNW establishes 2nd American Civil war triggers "Eugenics Wars" which becomes WWIII in its first ep, as a warning to a aliens on the brink.
Darjanator
First Contact and first episode of TNG with the Q trial go into it.
eightyearplan
https://www.pcgamer.com/au/enough-cyberpunkits-solarpunks-time-to-shine/
LurkerOfDarkness
TNG 7x01 Descent, part II.
SinisterSlaw
"StAr TrEk Is WoKe NoW" \
ahernandez
Technically Star Trek warns tomorrow will be a nuclear waste land and tomorrows tomorrow could be cool.
badairdayyay
So, You’re saying we could live long & prosper?
robin404
We're so F'ed
mcgravin
Alpha, Beta, Delta, Gamma, Moana, Thelma?
bluerazzgummy
Just don't show him any new trek lmao
scoutMoonDiver
We’re doomed
djangojazz
Pretty much episode 1 of Strange New Worlds is all about now and Civil War and what happened in Star Treks fictional future.
LjubljanaJeNajlepseMestoNaSvetu
Isnt star treck set after a nuclear war on earth
LurkerOfDarkness
Yes.
therealscottstam
So what you are saying is we are all screwed
Hooksan
Funny (or fittingly) enough my wife and I just watched 'Yesterday's Enterprise' last night.
bixby66
Star Trek is technically post apocalyptic just very post.
ThereAreCrocodiles
The future is Yvonne Craig painted green.
happywalker
Becker37
So it'll most certainly not be a better place
graehall
FoxPesdassi
Those randomly-generated numbers contain far too many 7s, and almost no 5s at all.
DukePhelan
Didn't world war three take place before the rise of the federation complete with a nuclear exchange?
derthric
WWIII is mid 21st Century, then we have First Contact in 2063 then spend about 90 years rebuilding, In 2150's we get Archer and the NX-01.
PowerPedant
What I get from this is that LCARS has *really* bad UI design, in impressively many ways.
Lampmonster
My alert sound is the TNG chirp and my ringtone is the flute music from The Inner Light.
tremolo
Moana , Thelma anyone?
giraffinator
One of the reasons why I loved Star Trek TNG was that it fast forwarded past all the nonsense where everyone just got along for the good
Dannoboyo
The sad thing about humans is that civilization is but a thin veneer covering up vermin. Many prefer to be angry killer primates.
TheArrestingAbhorrentArrantAbominableAlliterator
I'm 41. I've only just started to realize how many adults are just ... well, animals. They don't think. They just react. They believe...
TheArrestingAbhorrentArrantAbominableAlliterator
their first thought is right because it's their thought. They've never learned to not be controled their emotions. Or to think critically
TheArrestingAbhorrentArrantAbominableAlliterator
whether that is critically of a concept, critically of others, or - perhaps most importantly - critically of themselves.
LordHosk
Star Trek in fact promises that the current world will be burned down in blood, tears, and fire, BEFORE the utopia.
LordHosk
Star Trek's history contains, Sanctuary districts, 3 Eugenics Wars, and a Nuclear World War 3 which cracks and sinks southern California.
LordHosk
People often forget that part. When the Vulcans arrive North America has been reduced to small "tribes" gathered around resource hubs.
smellsmiketeenspirit
In which media is that part developed ?
LordHosk
Specifically the "small tribes" bit? Thats in First Contact and Enterprise.
smellsmiketeenspirit
It's weird I do not remember this. Specifically the "small tribes instead of the US or North America/Canada".
RawSuger
its so weird US was this in 60s and even partly in 80s, and then just degenerated into trumpism and reaganism
EverNotRelevant
Authoritarianism is really seductive if you're not well prepared.
LuminoZero
"Vigilance, Mr Worf. That is the price we must continuously pay." -Jean-Luc Picard, 'The Drumhead'
Dannoboyo
Bad schools, low pay, and Right Wing Propaganda news.
RawSuger
almost entirely the propaganda though, schools dont do shit vs propaganda, plentyy of trumpists and fascists are educated
Sometimesithinkimcanadianbutimnotsorry
Not properly.
RawSuger
they are, ivy league and shit. dont be naive. education does not annul human nature - and you can be educated in many directions
RawSuger
2) the only way to stop propaganda is to ban it. there is no free speech without a good amount of control of speech, as paradoxicl as it is
oddmog
And not just the US, Australia had Howard who was Trump and Reagan combined and we just get worse and worse.
RawSuger
fucking murloch and his media poison
oddmog
Yup, trouble is, not just Murdoch down here we have ninefairfax and seven which are same same and stacked and defunded government media.
AwesomeName
Because a world where everyone is well off is a threat to people who are well off now. Rather mess up everything than give up privilege.
oddmog
I will never get the 'it's not enough for me to win others must lose' crowd and I really hope I never become like that.
AwesomeName
If you ever see someone reading Ayn Rand, smack that fucking book out of their hands.
tracereading
Dumb old metalhead yesterday was trying to tell me Reagan was a good president. Good for what exactly?
RawSuger
destroying the american dream by replacing it with reaganomics?
Itsonporpoise
Look man, can we not lump in old metal heads with that crowd, ok?
tracereading
if they're a die-hard Trumplican we have to, dude.
mcharend
Lumping is prejudice at its core. One doesn’t “have to” do anything. That’s a choice.
tracereading
Dude being an old metalhead doesn't mean he can't have shitty politics and buy into that idea that Republicans are good for society.
levelfivedetentionblockaa23
dart223
Oooo
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
And this is why I don't like the criticism that Picard is "too perfect". He is an example of what humanity can be. He's an aspirational /1
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
figure. Not to mention that he did have a few screw-ups. But the important thing with him is the way he grapples with problems, looks at /2
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
all sides, and purposely chooses the one that does the least harm, or that is the most just. /3
Horus175
Also remember that WWIII happened at some point before we had the Federation.
akefay
In 2024 the US had withdrawn from NATO to avoid being pulled into WW3 with China. Poor people rounded up in concentration camps. 1/2
akefay
News of poor conditions / slaughter were ignored as fake and cops shot anybody with a camera. When cops shot some white people though...
TheWombatStrikesAgain
How would the non-US NATO even start a war with China? Did China annex Russia first or did Canada get like reeeally cocky?
akefay
It's not elaborated on (except probably in novels). Eugenics Wars ravage Eurasia, US goes "America First" but later joins in, nuclear war.
DatDarthCaedus
The Bell Riots, Second American Civil War, Eugenic Wars, WW3, and nuclear holocaust that killed 30% of the global population. Followed by 1/
DatDarthCaedus
humanity FINALLY going "You know what, we REALLY need to do better than this"... and even then Star Trek has been quite clear that it's 2/
DatDarthCaedus
not just a "one and done"; you have to constantly fight for what is right, or risk losing it. It's hard work, but well worth it in the end.
PerpetualExhaustion
“Vigilance. That is the price we must continually pay.”
TheArrestingAbhorrentArrantAbominableAlliterator
I remember the Eugenics War on TOS and the Bell Riots on DS9. Is the rest from SNW? Or am I forgetting something.
derthric
SNW establishes 2nd American Civil war triggers "Eugenics Wars" which becomes WWIII in its first ep, as a warning to a aliens on the brink.
Darjanator
First Contact and first episode of TNG with the Q trial go into it.