Oct 4, 2017 11:42 PM
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Easter0
The police just got He*king bamboozled.
AllTheGoodOnesWereGone
The road on the French side was probably already blocked by striking French dental hygienists or something.
toasteheh
Given the police think beating the shit out of people will stop them they deserve this
StupidAlexKrycek
Lol
MealeaYing
Now force them to illegally enter France, that will make it even more fun.
Puttzy
MilicaFilipovi
fake
Larkins
"policing the police, and how to get the biggest yield from your crops" - a new self help book by Spanish farmers
Remmikins
"Biggest yield from your cops*"
thatoneguyfrommn
*Catalan farmers
Herecomesjohnny
it's fine it's part of spain
Tassyr
This isn't going to end well.
MadHakon
I'd love to read a news article about this. I need something credible to share. This shit is golden.
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SandwhichSaviour
That is not a credible source, nor a source of any kind.
Tsurrani
Bambi577
Watching this movie right now.
PlbMak
Sensible chuckle
IRBafoon
You played yourselves policia
Porkupinexe
Funnily enough it’s actually not the police but the Guardia Civil, a federal force
Either way they played themselves and are acting like cunts
For fucking sure mare
GadenKerensky
I have seen no credible source to suggest this.
That isn't credible. Rumours don't account for anything.
No one claimed that it was fully credible, it’s just a anonymous insider tip
GamingMule
Fucking Genius.
Jowrdan
What if the party was 2pm and police showed up at 1pm, it just makes it look like they planned it out that way. Still genius either way.
humaneffigy
But they have no edgy signs to post pictures of online, what's the point?
travelintimeinc
Is this Batman? Why send the entire police force?
Well it’s not like La Guardia Civil is the biggest force, that and they were expecting a large scale protest considering they were (1/2)
Shutting down the entire French/Catalonian boarder
Andalite
Why did the police believe them? Does Catalona have some kind of beef with France that blocking the border would've been plausible?
The point would’ve been shutting down an important infrastructure point which could’ve really messed up Spanish import/export
Syrmerlin
They could have done it just to annoy Spain. Which is what they did in the end anyway.
pomax
Gotta source that news, @op, or you're just making shit up.
news might not report on it, but there should be metric fucktons of social media posts about it because that's not censored.
Yeah fair, this is just an example of a conversation from within the country
Taconolettuce
You forget that Europe was forged through constant war and strife. This is the tip of their strategic iceberg.
cesarballonizquierdo365
Estáis tomando a broma un movimiento manejado por ladrones fascistas. No caigáis en discursos manipuladores y falsos.
TheSuperJay
Google Translate: "Anatomy of bromine is a movement of manejado but ladrones fascistas. No caigáis en discursos manipuladores y falsos."
...thanks, Google
HighFunctioningAlcoholic
It's more saying you're being manipulated by a movement dictated by fascists and thieves, you're being lied to. Not sure what side theyre on
Basically saying everyone is accept ingredients lies as facts.
Ingredientes? How did that come from accepting?
secretoaster
This is the greatest.
iamthatonefriend
Did any of them say
PianoMan2112
This is Bugs Bunny-level shit.
And as fake as the cartoons ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
JeepersMedia
Voxnobilus
That's all folks
ComeOnNSlam
Next they're gonna fuck with the opera singer for 20 minutes
wildcatfan4life
The police are Yosemite Sam
ZaWithDude
And it's amazing when you see it as so
Nerdygasm
v
Cortezdelanoche
Holy shit! That made me laugh for a good minute.
powderedtoastbruh
Rabbit Season➡️➡️➡️
meteox
Duck Season
Mythikun
Is this real?
Still fake
No, its fake.
This has to be the worst proof anyone has given about anything /)_-)
NoCreativity3
So the police can't do anything at that point? It seems like they could do something about this. This makes no sense.
Mariel141
Probably they can, it's only a temporary thing. Farmers gonna need their tractors later if nothing else.
Fake news....
There are a couple people from Catalonia that are confirming that this is happening, nothing to solid though
ZanarkandAbes
How do uh.. How do just dozens of tractors sneak up on you?
Lolzorski
Very slowly and with a lot of noise.
CirclejerqueDuSoleil
The police probably went further ahead and the tractors blocked the road in a spot closer to the city out of sight of the police
It's a matter of proper donut placement, if there is a donut in sight all other considerations dwindle into oblivion. Even tractors.
Dagordae
Easy, you don't set them up within line of sight of the cops. You set up several miles away.
LordxGodxKing
CREEEEEEEEEED!!
Sekolah
Hahaha
DrPeroxide
koopaya
Cuz it didn't happen. There was another fake tractor post on reddit Tuesday (link in reply)
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/73sgk4/farmers_in_catalonia_have_blocked_the_entrances/?st=j8e0b8si&sh=dbb38aab
ThatKidWhoYoyos
Outsourced. In this case, similar to outwitted. Source eat source, oversourced.
Fake news pal...
There are a few people confirming that this happened that are from Catalonia, but also nothing solid
There is no confirmation about this as it didnt happen. Ask yourself what would hapen if a military force where blocked illegally.
First things first, the Guardia Civil is not a military force. They are a federal policing unit. Seconds thing second, in the source 1/?
That I provided it is important to note that the op even mention that it’s not a fully credible source, meaning that I made no such (2/?)
Claim that it was credible, the only claim was that there was possible confirmation from an anonymous insider.
If in doubt, do your research, not just speak from ignorance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Guard_(Spain)
Guardia Civil are a military force, get your facts straight.
“The Guardia Civil (English: "Civil Guard"; [ˈɡwarðja θiˈβil]) is the oldest law enforcement agency in Spain” First line buddy
Other notable points being that it is only organized as a military force. Not is a military force. They’re the equivalent of a Nation Guard
derschweiz
Catalan wanted an independence vote. Controversial of course but they just wanted to vote...
KNSKumo
Not just to vote. They usually argue with the Quebec case, but they skipped all the previous steps and laws, so it was declared illegal.
Nihelus
They've been part of Spain FAR longer than the US has even been a country. They need to get over it and accept they're Spanish.
If the world allows this to happen it's going to encourage others around the world that have been pushing for independence. It's a bad idea.
biolologist
Except that they didn't.
xzhous
Majority of Catalans wanted to vote (although not to secede). It was more about voice being heard, not actually to leave Spain
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Fuck them. The already live in a democracy and enjoy lots of autonomy. They just don't want to share their money with poorer regions.
AsheLake
They should still be allowed to vote. No one wants to be silenced.
TotallyNotYourTeacher
And the people who want it most are populists who play victim thenmoment anything bad happens. Like a younger sibling who cries all the time
Sticklebrickk
Because it works so well here in the states...
TittySprinklesNarratedByMorganFreeman5
It does, most people seem just want to look at the negative
While I'm salty about the electoral college not doing their job in this election, ours is a better system than it gets credit for.
poopfeet
Unfortunately it's against the Spanish Constitution and Catalan was 80% in favor when it was ratified. They made that choice for their kids
Didn't I read somewhere that the rule regarding votes of independence in the constitution itself was illegal under EU law?
lDanielHolm
*Catalonia.
fair point
Porkpie43
A side note is that the only around 50% voted
and howmany vote in the US? 40% on a good year? just saying
Sheepyhead
I mean holding a vote doesn't mean anyone have to do anything based on the result
agreed, but still illegal
How can it be illegal to ask the people what they think? That's undemocratic
LordHosk
The vote THIS TIME was against the constitution, because every previous time they tried to do it 'correctly' it was shot down by Barcelona.
This didnt come up over the weekend, the region has been fighting within the system for decades.
most of the fighting was against the fascists though
Terwin94
The thing about a Constitution is it only applies to you if you remain part of that country.
well if they can successfully leave they will have no access to eu market. Spain has veto power. Also they'd be taking 20% of spain's debt
That is very important information but irrelevant to the point I'm making.
The point is that Catalonia can't afford to be independent
Turns out words on paper don't stop actual, real people going "we thought you weren't going to fuck us over, but you did. The deal is off".
twozerooz
They arent getting fucked over though
Even a casual actually-reading-up on their shared history will let you show yourself that this is not a particularly true statement.
FunkyPenguin
The amount of money Catalonia makes for them greatly out ways what Spain puts into the country.
i will say that Spain's incredible debt means that not much is going anywhere in Spain
valibor19891
1998 wasnt against seebian cknstitution...kosovo albanians didnt even vote just openly rebelled after terrorist attacks didnt work
That sort of thing happens when one side lets things like Srbenika happen.
Wtf is a srbenika
Wikipedia it. It's not pleasant.
Perhaps learn what youre about to spread bullshit about before you start parroting things youre heard from random idiots.
I'll take my public policy degree with a focus on international security from the top ranked university in the world elsewhere, then.
Guess what 22 of eu nations recognized their independence basically overnight...speaking of double standards
problem is spain would veto their EU membership
Its about time catalonia bavaria north belgium scottland wales and irish get their independence too then...see how they like it
JayshushMcGush
I believe it was Jefferson that advocated for a 25 year expiration date on the constitution so that each generation would choose for itself
Jefferson also liquidated the first national bank. Jefferson was atrocious on policy
thagrassyknoll
17 years.
Cuntard
citation needed
Username1010101
http://factmyth.com/factoids/thomas-jefferson-called-for-rebellion-and-revolution/
literally the first line of your link says "Thomas Jefferson never said, “every generation needs a new revolution”"...
BronzeLeaguePro
Yeah, but the US didn't let the south leave. So you guys must surely be on the side of killing a few hundred thousand people?
We also rebelled against the brits. We're into whatever seems best at the time, I guess.
Yeah, but that was because they wanted you to pay for the wars you dragged them into. No representation without taxation and all that.
Easter0
The police just got He*king bamboozled.
AllTheGoodOnesWereGone
The road on the French side was probably already blocked by striking French dental hygienists or something.
toasteheh
Given the police think beating the shit out of people will stop them they deserve this
StupidAlexKrycek
Lol
MealeaYing
Now force them to illegally enter France, that will make it even more fun.
Puttzy
MilicaFilipovi
fake
Larkins
"policing the police, and how to get the biggest yield from your crops" - a new self help book by Spanish farmers
Remmikins
"Biggest yield from your cops*"
thatoneguyfrommn
*Catalan farmers
Herecomesjohnny
it's fine it's part of spain
Tassyr
This isn't going to end well.
MadHakon
I'd love to read a news article about this. I need something credible to share. This shit is golden.
[deleted]
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SandwhichSaviour
That is not a credible source, nor a source of any kind.
Tsurrani
Bambi577
Watching this movie right now.
PlbMak
Sensible chuckle
IRBafoon
You played yourselves policia
Porkupinexe
Funnily enough it’s actually not the police but the Guardia Civil, a federal force
IRBafoon
Either way they played themselves and are acting like cunts
Porkupinexe
For fucking sure mare
GadenKerensky
I have seen no credible source to suggest this.
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GadenKerensky
That isn't credible. Rumours don't account for anything.
Porkupinexe
No one claimed that it was fully credible, it’s just a anonymous insider tip
GamingMule
Fucking Genius.
Jowrdan
What if the party was 2pm and police showed up at 1pm, it just makes it look like they planned it out that way. Still genius either way.
humaneffigy
But they have no edgy signs to post pictures of online, what's the point?
travelintimeinc
Is this Batman? Why send the entire police force?
Porkupinexe
Well it’s not like La Guardia Civil is the biggest force, that and they were expecting a large scale protest considering they were (1/2)
Porkupinexe
Shutting down the entire French/Catalonian boarder
Andalite
Why did the police believe them? Does Catalona have some kind of beef with France that blocking the border would've been plausible?
Porkupinexe
The point would’ve been shutting down an important infrastructure point which could’ve really messed up Spanish import/export
Syrmerlin
They could have done it just to annoy Spain. Which is what they did in the end anyway.
pomax
Gotta source that news, @op, or you're just making shit up.
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pomax
news might not report on it, but there should be metric fucktons of social media posts about it because that's not censored.
Porkupinexe
Yeah fair, this is just an example of a conversation from within the country
Taconolettuce
You forget that Europe was forged through constant war and strife. This is the tip of their strategic iceberg.
cesarballonizquierdo365
Estáis tomando a broma un movimiento manejado por ladrones fascistas. No caigáis en discursos manipuladores y falsos.
TheSuperJay
Google Translate: "Anatomy of bromine is a movement of manejado but ladrones fascistas. No caigáis en discursos manipuladores y falsos."
TheSuperJay
...thanks, Google
HighFunctioningAlcoholic
It's more saying you're being manipulated by a movement dictated by fascists and thieves, you're being lied to. Not sure what side theyre on
HighFunctioningAlcoholic
Basically saying everyone is accept ingredients lies as facts.
HighFunctioningAlcoholic
Ingredientes? How did that come from accepting?
secretoaster
This is the greatest.
iamthatonefriend
Did any of them say
PianoMan2112
This is Bugs Bunny-level shit.
SandwhichSaviour
And as fake as the cartoons ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
JeepersMedia
Voxnobilus
That's all folks
ComeOnNSlam
Next they're gonna fuck with the opera singer for 20 minutes
wildcatfan4life
The police are Yosemite Sam
ZaWithDude
And it's amazing when you see it as so
Nerdygasm
Cortezdelanoche
Holy shit! That made me laugh for a good minute.
powderedtoastbruh
Rabbit Season➡️➡️➡️
meteox
Duck Season
Mythikun
Is this real?
[deleted]
[deleted]
SandwhichSaviour
Still fake
SandwhichSaviour
No, its fake.
[deleted]
[deleted]
SandwhichSaviour
This has to be the worst proof anyone has given about anything /)_-)
NoCreativity3
So the police can't do anything at that point? It seems like they could do something about this. This makes no sense.
Mariel141
Probably they can, it's only a temporary thing. Farmers gonna need their tractors later if nothing else.
SandwhichSaviour
Fake news....
Porkupinexe
There are a couple people from Catalonia that are confirming that this is happening, nothing to solid though
ZanarkandAbes
How do uh.. How do just dozens of tractors sneak up on you?
Lolzorski
Very slowly and with a lot of noise.
CirclejerqueDuSoleil
The police probably went further ahead and the tractors blocked the road in a spot closer to the city out of sight of the police
MealeaYing
It's a matter of proper donut placement, if there is a donut in sight all other considerations dwindle into oblivion. Even tractors.
Dagordae
Easy, you don't set them up within line of sight of the cops. You set up several miles away.
LordxGodxKing
CREEEEEEEEEED!!
Sekolah
Hahaha
DrPeroxide
koopaya
Cuz it didn't happen. There was another fake tractor post on reddit Tuesday (link in reply)
koopaya
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/73sgk4/farmers_in_catalonia_have_blocked_the_entrances/?st=j8e0b8si&sh=dbb38aab
ThatKidWhoYoyos
Outsourced. In this case, similar to outwitted. Source eat source, oversourced.
SandwhichSaviour
Fake news pal...
Porkupinexe
There are a few people confirming that this happened that are from Catalonia, but also nothing solid
SandwhichSaviour
There is no confirmation about this as it didnt happen. Ask yourself what would hapen if a military force where blocked illegally.
Porkupinexe
First things first, the Guardia Civil is not a military force. They are a federal policing unit. Seconds thing second, in the source 1/?
Porkupinexe
That I provided it is important to note that the op even mention that it’s not a fully credible source, meaning that I made no such (2/?)
Porkupinexe
Claim that it was credible, the only claim was that there was possible confirmation from an anonymous insider.
SandwhichSaviour
If in doubt, do your research, not just speak from ignorance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Guard_(Spain)
SandwhichSaviour
Guardia Civil are a military force, get your facts straight.
Porkupinexe
“The Guardia Civil (English: "Civil Guard"; [ˈɡwarðja θiˈβil]) is the oldest law enforcement agency in Spain” First line buddy
Porkupinexe
Other notable points being that it is only organized as a military force. Not is a military force. They’re the equivalent of a Nation Guard
derschweiz
Catalan wanted an independence vote. Controversial of course but they just wanted to vote...
KNSKumo
Not just to vote. They usually argue with the Quebec case, but they skipped all the previous steps and laws, so it was declared illegal.
Nihelus
They've been part of Spain FAR longer than the US has even been a country. They need to get over it and accept they're Spanish.
Nihelus
If the world allows this to happen it's going to encourage others around the world that have been pushing for independence. It's a bad idea.
biolologist
Except that they didn't.
xzhous
Majority of Catalans wanted to vote (although not to secede). It was more about voice being heard, not actually to leave Spain
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Fuck them. The already live in a democracy and enjoy lots of autonomy. They just don't want to share their money with poorer regions.
AsheLake
They should still be allowed to vote. No one wants to be silenced.
TotallyNotYourTeacher
And the people who want it most are populists who play victim thenmoment anything bad happens. Like a younger sibling who cries all the time
Sticklebrickk
Because it works so well here in the states...
TittySprinklesNarratedByMorganFreeman5
It does, most people seem just want to look at the negative
AsheLake
While I'm salty about the electoral college not doing their job in this election, ours is a better system than it gets credit for.
poopfeet
Unfortunately it's against the Spanish Constitution and Catalan was 80% in favor when it was ratified. They made that choice for their kids
DrPeroxide
Didn't I read somewhere that the rule regarding votes of independence in the constitution itself was illegal under EU law?
lDanielHolm
*Catalonia.
poopfeet
fair point
Porkpie43
A side note is that the only around 50% voted
poopfeet
and howmany vote in the US? 40% on a good year? just saying
Sheepyhead
I mean holding a vote doesn't mean anyone have to do anything based on the result
poopfeet
agreed, but still illegal
Sheepyhead
How can it be illegal to ask the people what they think? That's undemocratic
LordHosk
The vote THIS TIME was against the constitution, because every previous time they tried to do it 'correctly' it was shot down by Barcelona.
LordHosk
This didnt come up over the weekend, the region has been fighting within the system for decades.
poopfeet
most of the fighting was against the fascists though
Terwin94
The thing about a Constitution is it only applies to you if you remain part of that country.
poopfeet
well if they can successfully leave they will have no access to eu market. Spain has veto power. Also they'd be taking 20% of spain's debt
Terwin94
That is very important information but irrelevant to the point I'm making.
poopfeet
The point is that Catalonia can't afford to be independent
pomax
Turns out words on paper don't stop actual, real people going "we thought you weren't going to fuck us over, but you did. The deal is off".
twozerooz
They arent getting fucked over though
pomax
Even a casual actually-reading-up on their shared history will let you show yourself that this is not a particularly true statement.
FunkyPenguin
The amount of money Catalonia makes for them greatly out ways what Spain puts into the country.
poopfeet
i will say that Spain's incredible debt means that not much is going anywhere in Spain
valibor19891
1998 wasnt against seebian cknstitution...kosovo albanians didnt even vote just openly rebelled after terrorist attacks didnt work
HighFunctioningAlcoholic
That sort of thing happens when one side lets things like Srbenika happen.
valibor19891
Wtf is a srbenika
HighFunctioningAlcoholic
Wikipedia it. It's not pleasant.
valibor19891
Perhaps learn what youre about to spread bullshit about before you start parroting things youre heard from random idiots.
HighFunctioningAlcoholic
I'll take my public policy degree with a focus on international security from the top ranked university in the world elsewhere, then.
valibor19891
Guess what 22 of eu nations recognized their independence basically overnight...speaking of double standards
poopfeet
problem is spain would veto their EU membership
valibor19891
Its about time catalonia bavaria north belgium scottland wales and irish get their independence too then...see how they like it
JayshushMcGush
I believe it was Jefferson that advocated for a 25 year expiration date on the constitution so that each generation would choose for itself
poopfeet
Jefferson also liquidated the first national bank. Jefferson was atrocious on policy
thagrassyknoll
17 years.
Cuntard
citation needed
Username1010101
http://factmyth.com/factoids/thomas-jefferson-called-for-rebellion-and-revolution/
Cuntard
literally the first line of your link says "Thomas Jefferson never said, “every generation needs a new revolution”"...
BronzeLeaguePro
Yeah, but the US didn't let the south leave. So you guys must surely be on the side of killing a few hundred thousand people?
AsheLake
We also rebelled against the brits. We're into whatever seems best at the time, I guess.
BronzeLeaguePro
Yeah, but that was because they wanted you to pay for the wars you dragged them into. No representation without taxation and all that.