An identical twin is a clone. Fucking your clone would be incest. The artificially made clone would be an independent being, and there would be small differences, like epigenes. It would have a different personality. It would not share your consciousness or thoughts.
I find it both bizarre and envious how many people would be into fucking their own clones, but then again if my clone would be willing at least there'd be one person out there willing to fuck me. But knowing me he'd also refuse.
I did this plot in my Star Trek RPG. We did the obligatory mirror plot and one of my characters fucked his best friend's mirror self. The best friend was not pleased.
Honestly I would just look at me from the back. You know, live? Just to see how people see me. We all see ourselves mirrored at best. Not our actual faces as they are to others. I’d probably end up crying though.
Will your clone also be ace? What if they weren't. Ew. You'd both be confused at the other one.... Maybe don't ask and just assume and then do the crosswords anyway.
I find it fascinating, while I have the same 'ick' reaction to the idea of sex with anyone related to me, but logically, homosexual incest that cannot produce offspring and thus isn't inbreeding doesn't have the same reason against it. Still not into it, but the pedantic part of my brain is sitting there going 'Okay, but why is it gross?' replicant sex is in the same boat. dunno, some gross stuff doesn't make sense and is just gross.
Iirc much of the hardwired aversion clicks in by living wirh someone from youth. If you lived with a non blood relation from 2-20 ypu property ain't all about it. If you meet your half sibling at 19... we'll — it's probably societal pressure giving you most of the ick.
..at night, as the neon street signs reflect in the puddles at you feet and you stare at them and wonder why it is that you were born in the wrong century.
My favorite superhero has long been Jamie Madrox aka the Multiple Man. Imagine creating 20 duplicates of yourself, sending them to 20 universities to study different subjects, and then merging with them to absorb all this knowledge. But yeah, there is the instant orgy aspect too. As a bi guy I can't claim that I've never given that scenario any thought.
I do, but that fantasy predates The Boys' Splinter by a few decades. Maybe they came up with the sauna scene precisely because it's such a common fantasy.
Generally speaking this discussion involves sci-fi-type cloning, where it can be done rapidly and easily, as well as somehow also preprogramming the brain with a mind that's mostly or perfectly resembling the original's.
It's not talking about current-tech cloning that can produce a genetic copy but everything else still works just as if it were produced in a more conventional manner.
You can accelerate their growth. You can have one ready in a couple of weeks, but if you do it that quickly, then they get disconnected from the force and go a little loopy, so you'd want to take a couple of years ideally. Either way you're going to need some kind of infodump or mind transfer tech, or you'll have a full grown adult body with the mind of a baby. Moral and ethical questions aside, it won't be able to walk or use the toilet, so that's going to get messy
Because we have a non-genetic version of clone that simply means "an exact copy". Ironically would be the opposite of a genetic clone which, unless both were created at the same time, would never look exactly alike.
As someone who frequents political subs, I post the above post on non political things because some people do want an escape from the politics (not me, I live for the political posts)
They can escape from politics when shits not on fire and not before. Fk their wishes till then. No genuinely, being able to "not think about politics all the time" is a privilege for peace times and these are not it.
No one is really sure about that one. There are pet cloning services these days that can give rich people with questionable mental health a clone of their dead dog as a puppy. Cloned dogs don't seem to have the same accelerated aging that was seen with Dolly.
There's a wild podcast episode about cloning (Criminal, I think) in which a guy has his show-bull cloned, which then gores him and has been extremely aggressive since. Dude is still claiming it can be taught to behave exactly as it's predecessor who was known to be calm & good with people.
This American Life, "Reunited (And It Feels So Good)" Act Two "If By Chance We Meet Again" tells the story of Ralph & Sandra Fischer, their bull Chance, and his clone Second Chance. Highly recommend that entire episode!
RibbleTPibits
Make the conversation… different
MissSiesta
An identical twin is a clone. Fucking your clone would be incest.
The artificially made clone would be an independent being, and there would be small differences, like epigenes. It would have a different personality. It would not share your consciousness or thoughts.
Lugh314159
🎶 Oh give me a clone
/ with a mind of my own
/ and their y chromosome flipped to an x
/ so when were alone
/ just me and my clone
/ we'll both think of nothing but sex. 🎶
MaleProstateMilker88
I find it both bizarre and envious how many people would be into fucking their own clones, but then again if my clone would be willing at least there'd be one person out there willing to fuck me. But knowing me he'd also refuse.
moreSaucePlease
What about if it’s not your clone but your time-traveling self?
IhopeyougetstageIIIcoloncancer
I also choose OP's dead clone.
PlanckEraWasMyBestEra
I did this plot in my Star Trek RPG. We did the obligatory mirror plot and one of my characters fucked his best friend's mirror self. The best friend was not pleased.
ToenailClippingsJar
Honestly I would just look at me from the back. You know, live? Just to see how people see me. We all see ourselves mirrored at best. Not our actual faces as they are to others. I’d probably end up crying though.
TheThunderbirdRising
"Maybe your clone won't have your shit personality"
kantackistan
It's the belly buttons that gross me out. Like ew I don't want to be reminded that you were connected to your mom at one point.
sweetfeetpete
dirtyketchup
https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTY1YjkxZmJldmhibHRiMDdsd3M1MGY3azUxcHZwdXlrejNtNDViaXk1MXl4MGI0biZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/lp0D8EezWMXBhcQygb/giphy.mp4
cousteau
"Aww :("
Astral134
There really is a Simpsons gif for everything https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTY1YjkxZmJlOWN6d3VjaHk0ZmQ1N29ybm0zc2ViNnMyaHBwZWQ2bjZ3NGpmdXV0aiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/3orieX9hy38h6mwyHK/giphy.mp4
kantackistan
There is no Shapifanny!!
Nichols3
What if it was a perfect replica of Osama, 6" tall?
Antininny
you all know as soon as cloning goes mainstream this site is gonna hate it
geoffreyfourmyle
Isaac Asimov gave us a complete song with chorus about this topic. Choose a verse and sing it to the person. (The tune is Home on the Range.)
https://www.google.com/search?q=isaac+asimov+clone+of+my+own+full+verses
CyberHexx
If I had clones, I wouldn't sleep with them, I'd take over the world.
Bi1chPudding
Why not both?
CyberHexx
distractions from the goal. World domination first, get as close to utopia as possible second, celebratory orgy afterwards.
pickledpete1337
I have a dildo I made with a clone a Willy kit I used my own dick. It’s a fun thing to use on yourself.
skincancerisfun
You are a sick, sick man
(although I must say I thought of doing the exact same thing... gotta sample the product to see if its any good, you know?)
pickledpete1337
Oh I know
cousteau
Go fuck yourself.
pickledpete1337
I will!
Isorikk
If anyone told me that I'd probably stop talking to them, they're clearly a cunt
bluto1415
Sleep with my clone! No way would I ever sleep with someone who was that unattractive.
WullieBlake
If only Olive Oyl had given you a chance, she would have seen your inner beauty at least.
bluto1415
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Badgerbadgerson3
....I hate that I got that reference
TheDoctorCrankenstein
"Hilarious to assume either me or my clone would want to sleep with you in the first place"
Ribaldrie
I’m asexual, can we do crosswords together instead?
ZOMGNO
Will your clone also be ace? What if they weren't. Ew. You'd both be confused at the other one.... Maybe don't ask and just assume and then do the crosswords anyway.
IgnisInvictus
You'd be fucking your own identical twin. None of that "Oh step brother!" crud, your full blooded sibling.
Nope. Just. Nope.
WullieBlake
Next best thing! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSITUpElxso
ThrowAwayAcct0000
I'm not my type.
HiddenSanity
I find it fascinating, while I have the same 'ick' reaction to the idea of sex with anyone related to me, but logically, homosexual incest that cannot produce offspring and thus isn't inbreeding doesn't have the same reason against it. Still not into it, but the pedantic part of my brain is sitting there going 'Okay, but why is it gross?' replicant sex is in the same boat. dunno, some gross stuff doesn't make sense and is just gross.
astrangehop
Iirc much of the hardwired aversion clicks in by living wirh someone from youth. If you lived with a non blood relation from 2-20 ypu property ain't all about it. If you meet your half sibling at 19... we'll — it's probably societal pressure giving you most of the ick.
GravyEducation
Jokes on all of you, I could have a three way with my clone and twin
dasklaus
Don't see the issue, honestly. The ick is from growing up tegether, not the DNA. It's not any better fucking a step or adopted sibling.
Mxlespxles
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allmycommentsareGold
People confuse clone with replicant way too often
WullieBlake
That's the folk who haven't seen Blade Runner I'm guessing.
allmycommentsareGold
Makes me want to go cry in the rain
WullieBlake
..at night, as the neon street signs reflect in the puddles at you feet and you stare at them and wonder why it is that you were born in the wrong century.
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
Let me tell you about my mother
WullieBlake
and that was only the good things about her he told him!
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
My favorite superhero has long been Jamie Madrox aka the Multiple Man. Imagine creating 20 duplicates of yourself, sending them to 20 universities to study different subjects, and then merging with them to absorb all this knowledge. But yeah, there is the instant orgy aspect too. As a bi guy I can't claim that I've never given that scenario any thought.
skincancerisfun
Do you watch The Boys?
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
I do, but that fantasy predates The Boys' Splinter by a few decades. Maybe they came up with the sauna scene precisely because it's such a common fantasy.
tooomanystevesgotbanned
https://xkcd.com/267/
WullieBlake
Good stuff! cheers, checked it out cause you had the same cat pic thingy as me, glad I did.
tooomanystevesgotbanned
Cool! I love to spread xkcd around. It's fantastic.
MaterialisticWorm
As an identical twin I don't think I should say any of this
Magnar1183
Not identical. You don't share fingerprints
ArchSchnitz
My wife is an identical twin. Thankfully she's the hot one, but I'm still careful with my words.
FlipTheBirdBeforeTheBirdFlipsYou
Bomchickawowwow!
flyingmonkeystick
michiyl
How can we make sure it's you that made that comment right now, and not your identical twin?
Snooj
There's a whole category for you two on PornHub.
ToasterDent
"Identical Step-Brother, what are you doing?"
Einstein9073
"contributor"
coolbrood
Gives 'which one do I shoot at' a whole new meaning.
Sorcatarius
Which one do I shoot *in*, not at.
coolbrood
Dealer's choice.
BranDohCalrissian
I hope this comments soars to its destined heights!
xmaneds
doesn't a clone become a baby? so then you gotta wait 18 years for your clone to grow up?
3Davideo
Generally speaking this discussion involves sci-fi-type cloning, where it can be done rapidly and easily, as well as somehow also preprogramming the brain with a mind that's mostly or perfectly resembling the original's.
It's not talking about current-tech cloning that can produce a genetic copy but everything else still works just as if it were produced in a more conventional manner.
Parallels can be seen with IRL "AI" vs sci-fi AI.
LZorro
That's what the acceleration chambers are for.
vmos
You can accelerate their growth. You can have one ready in a couple of weeks, but if you do it that quickly, then they get disconnected from the force and go a little loopy, so you'd want to take a couple of years ideally. Either way you're going to need some kind of infodump or mind transfer tech, or you'll have a full grown adult body with the mind of a baby. Moral and ethical questions aside, it won't be able to walk or use the toilet, so that's going to get messy
allmycommentsareGold
Yes, in real life. People confuse 'clone' with 'replica'
Snooj
Because we have a non-genetic version of clone that simply means "an exact copy". Ironically would be the opposite of a genetic clone which, unless both were created at the same time, would never look exactly alike.
BishlamekGurpgork
Well, that and popular media that depicts clones that come out fully grown.
wseslar
Not if you're a Republican
ZOMGNO
Fucking disgusting. Plus one.
Krossis
dbox
It's funny but no one mentioned Trump until now
Krossis
I didn't have one specifically for Republicans so I went with the closest I had
dbox
Sorry, i was being overly sensitive. I went back and up voted.
Goldensands
Nothing will ever not be about the vile shitstain that is amerimoronland until they stop destroying the future.
Krossis
As someone who frequents political subs, I post the above post on non political things because some people do want an escape from the politics (not me, I live for the political posts)
Goldensands
They can escape from politics when shits not on fire and not before. Fk their wishes till then. No genuinely, being able to "not think about politics all the time" is a privilege for peace times and these are not it.
DanielAsparagus
No. Clones seem to have the same telomere length as their donor. At least when Dolly was cloned. The clone aged rapidly.
WiiShaker
This is also how Clones in Star Wars works. Except for Boba Fett because the Kaminoans were that damn good.
ZachariasWolfe
In Star Wars normal aging is the standard, it's the other clones that were made to after at an accelerated rate.
Ankylosaur
"Cloned animals don't age unusually fast, Dolly the sheep's heirs show" https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/dolly-cloning-aging-1.3695878
DanielAsparagus
Huh. I was wrong. No worries. That’s what I remember being reported at the time. Neat. Thanks.
four20praiseIt
Civil discourse! My guy saw a dissenting opinion and instead of throwing a shit fit, he LEARNED! I love you my friend, carry on 😁
IgnisInvictus
No one is really sure about that one. There are pet cloning services these days that can give rich people with questionable mental health a clone of their dead dog as a puppy. Cloned dogs don't seem to have the same accelerated aging that was seen with Dolly.
nomorehate
There's a wild podcast episode about cloning (Criminal, I think) in which a guy has his show-bull cloned, which then gores him and has been extremely aggressive since. Dude is still claiming it can be taught to behave exactly as it's predecessor who was known to be calm & good with people.
nomorehate
This American Life, "Reunited (And It Feels So Good)" Act Two "If By Chance We Meet Again" tells the story of Ralph & Sandra Fischer, their bull Chance, and his clone Second Chance. Highly recommend that entire episode!
DanielAsparagus
That’s fascinating!!! Gonna look that up. Thanks.
nomorehate
Meant to reply to your comment, but check my other reply! It's This American Life actually