People that take pleasure in feeding live animals should all be shot behind the shed and their body dumped in a trash compactor. Also people don't know the difference between a mouse and a hamster apparently?
its about the right size meal for that snake, but you should NEVER give your pets live food unless they wont eat dead food under any circumstance. live food is dangerous for the snake, and cruel to the rodent
For sexually ambiguous reasons, and not for the health of the poor creature hurting itself because of reasons and I guess color. Color is just a rate of oscillation, ultimately… anyway……..
It's stuck fangs in. It might actually know what went wrong, but is having a really hard time letting go, because this isn't how it's supposed to work.
I relate to that snake so hard... Wayyy back my cousins were pestering me, and I got home of an arm behind me which I proceeded to pinch as hard as I could. I was wondering why that didn't yield the expected response... Until they asked why I was pinching myself 😅 Always did have good pain tolerance 😋
Somebody wants to see it kill something. It's like those videos of komodo dragons eating goats whose legs are broken beforehand. I guess some people consider it entertainment.
You guess? We're the species that invented blood sports. The species that decided a "lower caste" of people fighting and killing each other not over land or resources, but for the amusement of others was a good idea. Plenty of people still around that would gladly see countless die for their amusement regardless of legality or morality.
This is not the way. Modern zoos, Wildlife Rehabilitators, and snake owners now feed snakes using dead (usually frozen & allowed to defrost to room temp or warmed in warm water) animals and use tongs to give the impression of movement and for handler safety. It is safer for the snake (besides this snake injuring itself, live prey can attack the snake), and it is much kinder for the prey animal. Anyone still feeding live prey is poorly educated and/or a psychopath.
Never ever ever ever live feed. The snake is fighting for a meal and the rat is fighting for its life. And snakes are quite possibly some of the dumbest animals on the planet i do not know how they arent exitinct. Never live feed.
If you think snakes are dumb, try owls. You know that episode of SpongeBob where he forgot everything but fine dining and breathing? That's owls, but instead of fine dining it's hunting rodents.
Its not natural when the prey has zero chance of escape.The Guinea Pig is not wild so has no idea of its fate otherwise it might try to hide somewhere or attack back. An albino snake would have been eaten long ago as no camoflage Live feeding seems to be more about getting a sick rush for the feeder
Most snakes can be trained to accept dead animals like newborn mice, which can be bought as frozen pet food. It's safer for the snake too since live prey might fight back.
It's what they eat in the wild. But I guess there are different rules in captivity... Watching zoo shows on TV I learned that (at least in Germany) barely any animal is being fed live prey (excluding maggots, crickets and other insects) and there are strict laws about it.
And exactly that is the reason why many predators in zoos go bonkers. Because they can't follow their instinct and that's really bad for them over the long run. That's one reason why cats walk up and down their cage
You know there are many ways to simulate their natural environment, entertain and let animals follow instincts without using living animals as prey? A local zoo to me puts meat on the back of a vehicle and drives around the Lion enclosure for them to chase, for example.
Every herpetology expert in the world agrees that snakes and other lizards kept in captivity should be fed killed prey ONLY. They are surprisingly fragile creatures, and if their ambush isn't successful, they are actually quite vulnerable to counterattack by live prey.
As opposed to the sweet slipping into that gentle night of prey that have been pre-killed, or of prey animals in the wild. I am not so worried about that, though I find it very distasteful that a person would set up a situation dangerous for the snake and distressing for the prey purely for their own amusement.
As opposed to a quick death (instead of hours or sometimes days into a cage waiting for the snake to be hungry) or natural selection. Using live animals is just sadism.
a species is immune to its own venom but kingsnakes are immune to the venom of their regions snakes (but not other region snakes so a kingsnake native to USA would get f'd if bitten by a non native species)
Yeah, I've used impact or hit or synonyms a few times for that reason. Luckily, I mostly work verbally, so it's not always important to have that right.
I don't see how any animal with venom would automatically be immune to its own venom. It's not like the venom just randomly courses through their veins, it's inside specialized organs.
The antidote is made out of their venom and some people, who work and live where dangerous snakes are, inject tiny amounts of the snake's venom into their body, because it creates an immunity over time. I don't know if this is true for all venoms and if snakes are immune to their own venom, but it would be weird if not, when others can get immune to it by injecting it.
Is ok that you don't intuitively see that, but some research before you go spouting that opinion would be wise. Some snake are able to take their own venom, without dieing.
But it's not because they are "immune" to the venom, it's because that venom is designed for mamalian physiology so it doesn't affect the snake which is a reptile. Similar to how if you get the flu, your dog won't, but not because it's immune, but because that particular virus doesn't attack canines the way it does humans. A venomous snake that eats reptiles would absolutely be more likely to die if it bit itself and envenomated itself
That’s true in some cases but not all. Some snakes are snake eaters and their venom is able to work on other snakes. King Cobras are an example. They have resistance to many types of snake venom including their own, but enough of it can be deadly.
I had roommates that kept snakes, and on the rare occasion that a snake stopped accepting frozen-thawed mice, they would get a live one, kill it (internal decapitation), then immediately offer it to the snake. Under no circumstances would they offer the snake live food; freshly-killed and still twitching, yes, but never live.
My dad used to breed rattlesnakes before i was born, he had a gorgeous eastern diamond back rattlesnake, he used to feed them live rats, he put one in before leaving for work, when he came back the rat was still alive, and the snakes head was off, dad was so pissed he picked up the snakes head and bit the rat with it. From then on he always killed them with a few hefty whacks to the back of the head with a heavy enough tool for good measure.
There are also Quik Trips, known as “QTs.” First i ever say one was in Kansas, but they’re all over Georgia and South Carolina too. But yeah, the kwik one is the one known in the Midwest
I've been told it's like a Midwestern WaWa and I'm excited at the prospect of actually visiting one. After 10 years of hearing about them, they almost seem mythical.
What part of the US are you in? From the Wawa’s I’ve visited I’d say QuikTrip and Sheetz are very similar. Then of course you have Buccee’s that’s on a whole other level.
keyblader1985
Sometimes you just gotta make your Ouroboros dreams a reality.
CuddlyPervert
Flarty
Live feeding captive snakes is just unnecessary and says alot about the person who does it.
zeacorzeppelin10
Your danger noodle is a little bit special.
littlecoatfatguy
ElinPlanetCatcher
Do not live feed
MapleSyrupMafia
Snake: Weird, that mouse tastes like snake!
DexterWantsToBattle
Feeding live is such a gross move, give me that snake since you don't know how to take care of it
CaveGod
That snake needs a counselor.
GRZMNKY
Stop feeding live prey to captive animals.
virence
It hurt itself in its confusion!
Lethous
Poor ekans
WynnCreek
Bobbobbobobbananafanafobob
Can't pounce there mate
CheeseborgarSoop
Hamster is like "Bro, take it easy. You alright??"
PleasantPeasantPheasant
People that take pleasure in feeding live animals should all be shot behind the shed and their body dumped in a trash compactor. Also people don't know the difference between a mouse and a hamster apparently?
esm432
I was surprised more people didn’t realize it’s not got a tail as well
BlueskydragonFX
Sadly youtube is full of these vids catering the freaks that get off of this shit.
TheMrDomino
No, just put them in the trash compactor alive so they can feel what they put the animals through.
ActuallyAPirate
Snakes are not very smart... i had one and it would get its teeth caught in stuff or try and go through too small holes, frequently
Feralkyn
Is that a young guinea pig? Is it not too big and is that normal snake food?
Hendlton
Snakes can eat really big things and no, it's not normal snake food. Snakes in captivity are usually fed dead mice.
lizardbones
its about the right size meal for that snake, but you should NEVER give your pets live food unless they wont eat dead food under any circumstance. live food is dangerous for the snake, and cruel to the rodent
KarlRoyGabriel
Oh my god someone go in there and stop the snake from hurting itself
Muffinburgler
Yeah this is horrible snake ownership. Just filming (why even film that to begin with) while their snake injures itself.
KarlRoyGabriel
I guess they really wanted to prove something, but at the cost of other less but still intelligent things having bad memories.
ferallypeculiar
Snake won’t hurt itself unless it starts swallowing
KarlRoyGabriel
This one deserves more credit
KarlRoyGabriel
For sexually ambiguous reasons, and not for the health of the poor creature hurting itself because of reasons and I guess color. Color is just a rate of oscillation, ultimately… anyway……..
ArdentSlacker
It's stuck fangs in. It might actually know what went wrong, but is having a really hard time letting go, because this isn't how it's supposed to work.
badbmc
To defeat the mouse, one must become the mouse.
GiddyKipper
To defeat the snake one must become the snake …
MightyIink
Darwin snake award... "Oh I can feel that mouse pinching me, I better bite harder!"
RealityInflicted
https://youtu.be/Z4hkJpAI0Zw
DarkSlayer54
I genuinely believe I've witnessed the pinnacle of snake stupidity today. The snake deserves to win a page in the Guinness Book of World Records
vegivamp
I relate to that snake so hard... Wayyy back my cousins were pestering me, and I got home of an arm behind me which I proceeded to pinch as hard as I could. I was wondering why that didn't yield the expected response... Until they asked why I was pinching myself 😅 Always did have good pain tolerance 😋
JohnBigboote74
BlackCatCasper
Derpetologist
mrsdowneyjr
Why the fuck are they feeding it a live pet hamster?
ferallypeculiar
Who knows. Hamsters have way too much fat content to be good feeders
Barkinsons
It's inhumane but also dangerous. I've seen snakes who were "fed" live rats, only the rat was smart enough to start eating the snake first.
jrntn
Catching the hamsters in the wild would be way more expensive
mrsdowneyjr
Too right.
mathknight
Trying* to feed it.
esm432
Yeah that’s really bizarre. Hamsters aren’t typical live snake food.
Hendlton
Somebody wants to see it kill something. It's like those videos of komodo dragons eating goats whose legs are broken beforehand. I guess some people consider it entertainment.
ferallypeculiar
Not suggesting people wouldn’t do what you’re saying, but Komodo dragons do slash tendons themselves to cripple before eating
ZKintzer
sylkysmooth
You guess? We're the species that invented blood sports. The species that decided a "lower caste" of people fighting and killing each other not over land or resources, but for the amusement of others was a good idea. Plenty of people still around that would gladly see countless die for their amusement regardless of legality or morality.
mrsdowneyjr
I guess my question was more rhetoric. Like "why the fuck?"
ChillWalker
This is not the way. Modern zoos, Wildlife Rehabilitators, and snake owners now feed snakes using dead (usually frozen & allowed to defrost to room temp or warmed in warm water) animals and use tongs to give the impression of movement and for handler safety. It is safer for the snake (besides this snake injuring itself, live prey can attack the snake), and it is much kinder for the prey animal. Anyone still feeding live prey is poorly educated and/or a psychopath.
LiterallyAnOpossum
True, but a small number will refuse dead feeders no matter what. That's the only case when it's acceptable to live feed under close supervision
commentsivehadafew
A tail as old as time itself
Remishnok
tale? Can you tell?
slamEVIL
And a snake is all tail.
Jacksforehead
Never ever ever ever live feed. The snake is fighting for a meal and the rat is fighting for its life. And snakes are quite possibly some of the dumbest animals on the planet i do not know how they arent exitinct. Never live feed.
Jacksforehead
*extinct
2074red2074
If you think snakes are dumb, try owls. You know that episode of SpongeBob where he forgot everything but fine dining and breathing? That's owls, but instead of fine dining it's hunting rodents.
Leprechaunballsaregold
Cunts feeding live animal
ElderLurkerInNeedOfaCane
It's what they eat?
MsQuin
Not sure why you're getting down votes so much, ignorance is not malic.
Taxicat
No, you’re supposed to kill the mouse before feeding it to the snake. Otherwise it’s cruelty to both the mouse and the snake.
Flarty
It's unnecessary and says alot about the people who see no wrong in it. Proud owner of a GTP
Leprechaunballsaregold
Its not natural when the prey has zero chance of escape.The Guinea Pig is not wild so has no idea of its fate otherwise it might try to hide somewhere or attack back.
An albino snake would have been eaten long ago as no camoflage
Live feeding seems to be more about getting a sick rush for the feeder
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Most snakes can be trained to accept dead animals like newborn mice, which can be bought as frozen pet food. It's safer for the snake too since live prey might fight back.
FrauLanghaar
It's what they eat in the wild. But I guess there are different rules in captivity... Watching zoo shows on TV I learned that (at least in Germany) barely any animal is being fed live prey (excluding maggots, crickets and other insects) and there are strict laws about it.
Ularsawa
And exactly that is the reason why many predators in zoos go bonkers. Because they can't follow their instinct and that's really bad for them over the long run. That's one reason why cats walk up and down their cage
avenged8x
You know there are many ways to simulate their natural environment, entertain and let animals follow instincts without using living animals as prey? A local zoo to me puts meat on the back of a vehicle and drives around the Lion enclosure for them to chase, for example.
Toastfrog
What zoe has maggots?
JohnnyLawlessEsq
Every herpetology expert in the world agrees that snakes and other lizards kept in captivity should be fed killed prey ONLY. They are surprisingly fragile creatures, and if their ambush isn't successful, they are actually quite vulnerable to counterattack by live prey.
Zorrodidnothingwrong
Also, the torture on the live prey.
JohnnyLawlessEsq
As opposed to the sweet slipping into that gentle night of prey that have been pre-killed, or of prey animals in the wild. I am not so worried about that, though I find it very distasteful that a person would set up a situation dangerous for the snake and distressing for the prey purely for their own amusement.
Zorrodidnothingwrong
As opposed to a quick death (instead of hours or sometimes days into a cage waiting for the snake to be hungry) or natural selection. Using live animals is just sadism.
guardian19d
Mouse is confused.
Hellbat666
We’re all confused 🤷♂️
ItMayBeHelpfulToNote
Not as confused as one thinks the snake smells the mouse's touch, it's just a matter of time
animatronicChristmasChickens
Not as confused as the snake
pretendthisisagoodusername
it hurt itself in confusion
Bubbells
For a moment it looks like he is just watching the snake and thinking "Dumbass"
duffman3335
That looks ro me like a juvenile Guinea pig.
xBufferzz
The hamster is even more confused.
jennym123
"Should I wait here until you're sorted out or..."
pareidoliaperson
So are we still on for the hunter-play role play? No...? Ok
annoyedOnion
If they inject venom into themselves does it have any affect?
candar
Some are. Not all.
Daywalker27
"They can not self terminate"
OmnipotentBeing
hotaru251
a species is immune to its own venom but kingsnakes are immune to the venom of their regions snakes (but not other region snakes so a kingsnake native to USA would get f'd if bitten by a non native species)
anonymous
Effect*
ThisGuyPostingThings
I'll admit, that's one I always have difficulty with, affect or effect. Always need to take a moment and still second guess myself after.
TheLastBeerBender
I just remember it's always the opposite of what I'm thinking.
Eldibs
If you're not sure, use impact instead.
ThisGuyPostingThings
Yeah, I've used impact or hit or synonyms a few times for that reason. Luckily, I mostly work verbally, so it's not always important to have that right.
WoTLert
I don't see how any animal with venom would automatically be immune to its own venom. It's not like the venom just randomly courses through their veins, it's inside specialized organs.
RecurringNightmare
not automatically, but they are often at least resistant to their own poisons by evolution because self-injuries or intra-species fights occur...
milkmymisanthropy
The antidote is made out of their venom and some people, who work and live where dangerous snakes are, inject tiny amounts of the snake's venom into their body, because it creates an immunity over time. I don't know if this is true for all venoms and if snakes are immune to their own venom, but it would be weird if not, when others can get immune to it by injecting it.
FearOsheema
Is ok that you don't intuitively see that, but some research before you go spouting that opinion would be wise. Some snake are able to take their own venom, without dieing.
WoTLert
Hence me stating it as opinion, not fact. :) Thank you for the explanation though, I'm always happy to learn.
GivenToFly17
But it's not because they are "immune" to the venom, it's because that venom is designed for mamalian physiology so it doesn't affect the snake which is a reptile. Similar to how if you get the flu, your dog won't, but not because it's immune, but because that particular virus doesn't attack canines the way it does humans. A venomous snake that eats reptiles would absolutely be more likely to die if it bit itself and envenomated itself
Blackcurry328
That’s true in some cases but not all. Some snakes are snake eaters and their venom is able to work on other snakes. King Cobras are an example. They have resistance to many types of snake venom including their own, but enough of it can be deadly.
Zephronias
When I was told that you should feed snakes already-dead mice so they don't get hurt, I thought the threat would come from the *mouse*. . . .
OliverOtter
And that's a hamster, which is far more likely to fight back effectively than a mouse would.
Taxicat
It can. A mouse easily has enough jaw strength to punch through a snake’s skull, and the snake does not usually have the ability to defend itself.
Littleug
If anyone gets punched through the skull I hope it's the person who conducts live feeding.
SoberToast
Sad it took this many comments to find it said! What a disgusting thing to do. Live feed should be illegal
Taxicat
I had roommates that kept snakes, and on the rare occasion that a snake stopped accepting frozen-thawed mice, they would get a live one, kill it (internal decapitation), then immediately offer it to the snake. Under no circumstances would they offer the snake live food; freshly-killed and still twitching, yes, but never live.
TheMayo16
My dad used to breed rattlesnakes before i was born, he had a gorgeous eastern diamond back rattlesnake, he used to feed them live rats, he put one in before leaving for work, when he came back the rat was still alive, and the snakes head was off, dad was so pissed he picked up the snakes head and bit the rat with it. From then on he always killed them with a few hefty whacks to the back of the head with a heavy enough tool for good measure.
TheDouche
Why t f would somebody create more rattlesnakes?!l
2074red2074
Milking them for venom probably
GrizzlySaint
Snakeskin boots, jackets, hats, belts diamondbacks are beautiful
DarkBusterBaron
If a snake is well fed it won't eat the mouse immediately but the mouse will kill the snake if left alone for too long.
TheDouche
I’m on the mouse’s side on this one.
StenYngve
Why would you take sides in an interaction between two animals like this?
kikichunt
Solidarity amongst mammals.
justfillingthespace
Funny
ArdentSlacker
... it's feeding a captive animal that's an obligate carnivore. That *is* taking a side.
StenYngve
I see what you mean. I might have misunderstood.
ClownishAntics
*mouse with a midwestern accent asking the snake if it's ok*
4vie
"Ope! Everything going well there buddeh?"
Ghostwish
whoooooa buddeh
SpaceTaco22
You okaaaay over dere?
justanotherdude6710
Oh feller! I thing ya gotchaself there!
SaganIsMyLordAndSavior
I can hear it in my head; a squeaky lil "oh my WORD, are you awlraaaaght?!?! Kin ah heylp yewww?" 😅
BORGALOOGIE
Oh yeah, no.
Donk4donk
Ope, sorry Mr nope rope!
Minneapple23
Mousennota Nice
UnattendedDeviant
Minnesota mice.
magitek
Did somebody say Midwestern? /gallery/RoSmbYB
ClownishAntics
WorstWurst
I'm makin a stop over to the quiktrip do ya need me to pick ya up an advil?
peamupbubber
To da kwiktrip*
breezybriv
Kwiktrip and do y’all need anything from it?
WorstWurst
I now understand it's "Kwik trip", I've only heard it spoken, my in-laws are from Wisconsin
demolitionlover09
There are also Quik Trips, known as “QTs.” First i ever say one was in Kansas, but they’re all over Georgia and South Carolina too. But yeah, the kwik one is the one known in the Midwest
WorstWurst
I've been told it's like a Midwestern WaWa and I'm excited at the prospect of actually visiting one. After 10 years of hearing about them, they almost seem mythical.
demolitionlover09
What part of the US are you in? From the Wawa’s I’ve visited I’d say QuikTrip and Sheetz are very similar. Then of course you have Buccee’s that’s on a whole other level.