I miss when opting out was not some crazy impossible task. When maybe you just aren’t a big fan of whacking away at the keyboard (this was never me but I respect knowing oneself enough) or you appreciate that life is better lived in real time with real people, while allowing that some people thrive through online style communication. I miss having a choice about how much internet was going to be a part of your life
nah. Im good with the state of computers and the internet today. If there's one thing I like about modern life its exactly that.
The only thing I'd change is the expectation of always being available to communicate. And thats a social pressure created by the technology we have. I just take my time to answer people even if I see the messages, so Im good
I remember when I first signed up to pof. No apps back then, all online through a browser on a computer. I would send a message, and then check back in 24/48 hours if any reply. Once the app came about, if you took 24 hours to reply, girls would forget or even lose your message in the rest of the pile and shed be gone forever
The internet was a place? I've been misled. Somebody told me it was a series of tubes. " The internet is not something that you just dump something on. It's not a big truck. It's . . . it's a series of tubes." --Senator Ted Stevens R-AK 2006. So no more dumps, people! And no trucks either. Especially not cybertrucks.
I 100% prefer the internet not being stuck on one machine, and I'm definitely not nostalgic for the days when it conflicted with using the phone - especially since my mom was a nurse, and on-call pretty often. What I miss was when the internet was a bunch of enthusiast hubs of a couple dozen to a few thousand - when the individual spaces were small enough to moderate *personally* - "the mods" weren't some nebulous overlords, they were MeadMan and TheCake, and you're in another thread with them >
> talking about where to get good food when you go to a convention next month, or they're joining you for a game night or something. The internet wasn't a place in your home, it was a bunch of places where you felt at home. Now it's all robo-mods and random anonymous idiots you would have never talked to. I mean, sure, /b/ always existed, but billionaires and politicians weren't appealing to them - everyone knew it was a shit hole and no one took it seriously. But call the same thing Twitter...
And yet, with some forethought you could convince your dad to install this unit on the same wall as the door... with some resourcefulness still have unfettered access to utter filth.
I do miss the days of 'surfing' the internet. That quixotic journey from link to link, through disparate webpages that themselves included links they found interesting, all to discover a novel webpage that you could share with friends. Google, Facebook and the like have mostly killed that aspect of the internet, but even though it may be quicker to locate something you are looking for, the 'discovery' part seems a distant memory.
Still is for me mostly, I only use the internet on my desktop 99% of the time, my phone internet is only really used for the annoying things which insist of having an app of some sort to work.
They said the same thing about the radio. First it sat in the living room and everyone gathered round, by 1930 it was in your car, and by 1954 it was in your pocket.
Except when a company's website functions better than their app, but the website tries to push you to use the app. You know how many times I go on a site like Walmart or Sam's Club or Meijer or whatever and the app says they don't have something but the website finds it on the first try?
Having it anywhere is cool.. having it everywhere is a nightmare.
I would love for my local cafe(or other 3rd spaces) to be able to survive without developing an online presence. I would love for dating to be more possible without platforms and algorithms getting involved. And I don't like having to keep a gun next to my printer in case it makes a noise I don't recognise.
Printers have been a problem for years. I refuse to use dating apps so if I spend the rest of my life alone, I am prepared for that. TOo many scams on there.
Same. My wife got me a very nice toothbrush and it had instructions on how to install an app for it that will talk to my phone. Did not even consider installing it.
i charged my ipod 20gb classic the other day for tunes on the go, some of my acquaintances question why i wouldn't just want an all in one device with music on it, but i don't think they few having a communication device on them at all times as a curse
They do still make new phones with headphone jacks, if you ever want to emulate newer systems. Or if you specifically want something geared more towards games there are a lot of small but powerful android based gaming focused handhelds on the market. Anbernic, Ayaneo, Ayn, Retroid, and a bunch more pump those out in basically every combination of features you can dream of.
I have work emails on my phone, so I have my iPod for the times that I'm not at work, so I don't feel beholden to my work, or the urge to doomscroll. I just get lost in the music. It's such a freeing feeling.
I still use my ipod every day. The music was all manually transferred from physical albums i own so they can't be taken away by an algorithm deciding to remove it either.
That's similar a reason as to why I got a minidisc player for myself. Though for me it was less about being unreachable and more about ensuring it has a separate power supply, better quality audio output, and no chance of something stupid making it past my DND status. Plus that way if I do have to use my phone while listening to music there are no wires dangling from it or a bluetooth connection to worry about.
Ah. I see. You're saying you have not the willpower to resist the temptation of calling, texting, or otherwise fiddling with your phone to communicate with others and you need it to be away from you to do so. Because if you did have that willpower there would then be no way of you contacting someone even with said phone as your willpower would stop you from doing so. For you it's distance, for others it's willpower.
CobainsSarcoma
that setup was tits for a glorious four months
IWasACatAllAlong
Why is it good just because it was in the past? No thanks I want to Google cat facts while in a train.
Canofminus
Those felt grate to setup, but my god, cleaning and moving them was a fucking nightmare.
Krashtestdummy
wetqueef
I miss when opting out was not some crazy impossible task. When maybe you just aren’t a big fan of whacking away at the keyboard (this was never me but I respect knowing oneself enough) or you appreciate that life is better lived in real time with real people, while allowing that some people thrive through online style communication. I miss having a choice about how much internet was going to be a part of your life
TheCryptid
nah. Im good with the state of computers and the internet today. If there's one thing I like about modern life its exactly that.
The only thing I'd change is the expectation of always being available to communicate. And thats a social pressure created by the technology we have. I just take my time to answer people even if I see the messages, so Im good
neverscurdOG
The Original Mastebatorium … That desk would look like Smurf Village under a black light
SoberToast
I remember when I first signed up to pof. No apps back then, all online through a browser on a computer. I would send a message, and then check back in 24/48 hours if any reply. Once the app came about, if you took 24 hours to reply, girls would forget or even lose your message in the rest of the pile and shed be gone forever
whycanttheygetgirlfriends
The internet was a place? I've been misled. Somebody told me it was a series of tubes. " The internet is not something that you just dump something on. It's not a big truck. It's . . . it's a series of tubes." --Senator Ted Stevens R-AK 2006. So no more dumps, people! And no trucks either. Especially not cybertrucks.
PobbitBreakers
I upgraded
GenuineBeamm
Navrodel
I 100% prefer the internet not being stuck on one machine, and I'm definitely not nostalgic for the days when it conflicted with using the phone - especially since my mom was a nurse, and on-call pretty often.
What I miss was when the internet was a bunch of enthusiast hubs of a couple dozen to a few thousand - when the individual spaces were small enough to moderate *personally* - "the mods" weren't some nebulous overlords, they were MeadMan and TheCake, and you're in another thread with them >
Navrodel
> talking about where to get good food when you go to a convention next month, or they're joining you for a game night or something.
The internet wasn't a place in your home, it was a bunch of places where you felt at home.
Now it's all robo-mods and random anonymous idiots you would have never talked to. I mean, sure, /b/ always existed, but billionaires and politicians weren't appealing to them - everyone knew it was a shit hole and no one took it seriously. But call the same thing Twitter...
arewenotkingsandqueenstogether
Social media is the terror.
sanguium
It can stil be a place, you are just addicted.
Wapusk
And yet, with some forethought you could convince your dad to install this unit on the same wall as the door... with some resourcefulness still have unfettered access to utter filth.
Nexus297
You had a "Computer Room"
RandallKavanaugh
I do miss the days of 'surfing' the internet. That quixotic journey from link to link, through disparate webpages that themselves included links they found interesting, all to discover a novel webpage that you could share with friends. Google, Facebook and the like have mostly killed that aspect of the internet, but even though it may be quicker to locate something you are looking for, the 'discovery' part seems a distant memory.
Puppersforall
Still is for me mostly, I only use the internet on my desktop 99% of the time, my phone internet is only really used for the annoying things which insist of having an app of some sort to work.
acatinbirdsclothing
You say this until you have to rush to close all the porn popups before your mom walks in and makes you come help with the groceries.
OfficerCrabtree
That works just as well without the last four words…
MerriMod
To say nothing of those self-replicating pop-ups that would spawn a new ad the moment you closed one down.
SamSpayed
That setup pre-dates the Internet. That setup was for AOL and GEnie.
minant
When the internet became the internet, AOL did not yet exist.
SamSpayed
Yes, I meant "internet available to the masses", but that was too long to type.
DoubleBeryl
They said the same thing about the radio. First it sat in the living room and everyone gathered round, by 1930 it was in your car, and by 1954 it was in your pocket.
SeeMyVests
And now it’s some dude blasting it on the beach and you dont even get to pick the station
DoubleBeryl
It also helped create the first megachurch thanks to Aimee Semple McPherson.
baals
Well that was a fuck up
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
*The internet spread fascism through the same kind of people* Wanna see me do it again?
DoubleBeryl
The best laid plans of mice and men…
JustinOtherDrone
Gang aft aglee
Casually
I like having the internet in my pocket.
usingYourMomAsAHat
Is that the internet you have in your pocket or are you just happy to see me
kaoticgirl
I fucking love it. I remember not having the internet, and having it in my pocket is vastly superior.
DeamgonDork
"Porn"
astrangehop
The internet likes you looking at it at least once an hour.
LobotomyJones
It has its pros and cons.
Bobbobbobobbananafanafobob
Sometimes prose but always cons.
jayman0123
Except when a company's website functions better than their app, but the website tries to push you to use the app. You know how many times I go on a site like Walmart or Sam's Club or Meijer or whatever and the app says they don't have something but the website finds it on the first try?
Idonotbelievewehavecompany
same, it is awesome to be able to look up stuff almost anywhere
kickmyballsrealhard
I can look at boobies whenever I want. That's pretty cool
TheDeltaMoo
But you still can't get your balls kicked real hard whenever. And neither can I
tymonaSmasher
Are they inside your own clothes
EntropyEJ
Having it anywhere is cool.. having it everywhere is a nightmare.
I would love for my local cafe(or other 3rd spaces) to be able to survive without developing an online presence. I would love for dating to be more possible without platforms and algorithms getting involved. And I don't like having to keep a gun next to my printer in case it makes a noise I don't recognise.
Idonotbelievewehavecompany
Printers have been a problem for years. I refuse to use dating apps so if I spend the rest of my life alone, I am prepared for that. TOo many scams on there.
Malibloo
And how are you using the internet?
Casually
Answering the question as it pertains to the difference between the internet in my pocket and in a dedicated place.
Mainly to look up things that come up in conversation when none of us can remember something. Usually going to IMDB.
BeaverOnFire
Porn. What else is there?
Malibloo
BeaverOnFire
pip1
I would prefer not having it in my fridge tho
thetinymonarch
Having it built in is dumb. I do think a fridge with a built in phone holder and charger
Casually
Same. My wife got me a very nice toothbrush and it had instructions on how to install an app for it that will talk to my phone. Did not even consider installing it.
pip1
Tf
imsam77
An…internet phone (aka iPhone)?
MisuseOfLiterally
any mobile phone for the past decade, i dont know why specifically iphone?
westPAguy
imsam77
O, I was making a callback the naming of the iPhone.
imsam77
Granted, internet capable mobile devices were used prior to the iphone, I was just making a call back; most people don't know what the I stands for.
imsam77
It was fun using a browser on a flip phone with a 1" screen....ahh, those were the days (and texts limited to 100 per month) /s
MisuseOfLiterally
I feel pretty dumb. I never realized the i could be a reference to internet
imsam77
Today you learned! It's kinda cool where there's new information to be learned everywhere, even in everyday stuff!
bobbobbybobbington
i charged my ipod 20gb classic the other day for tunes on the go, some of my acquaintances question why i wouldn't just want an all in one device with music on it, but i don't think they few having a communication device on them at all times as a curse
the best feeling is being unreachable 😊
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neithermenoryou
They do still make new phones with headphone jacks, if you ever want to emulate newer systems. Or if you specifically want something geared more towards games there are a lot of small but powerful android based gaming focused handhelds on the market. Anbernic, Ayaneo, Ayn, Retroid, and a bunch more pump those out in basically every combination of features you can dream of.
Zuegma197777
We are a remaining few. My Ipod Nano I snagged at a pawn shop years ago.
Revyloution
I'm just finishing 33 years of an all-consuming job. I cannot describe how much I'm looking forward to leaving the house without a phone.
edgeofadhesion
I have work emails on my phone, so I have my iPod for the times that I'm not at work, so I don't feel beholden to my work, or the urge to doomscroll. I just get lost in the music. It's such a freeing feeling.
mirrorz
I still use my ipod every day. The music was all manually transferred from physical albums i own so they can't be taken away by an algorithm deciding to remove it either.
neithermenoryou
That's similar a reason as to why I got a minidisc player for myself. Though for me it was less about being unreachable and more about ensuring it has a separate power supply, better quality audio output, and no chance of something stupid making it past my DND status.
Plus that way if I do have to use my phone while listening to music there are no wires dangling from it or a bluetooth connection to worry about.
SmellingMistake
I have the convenience of having a cell phone but am still unreachable because I just don't answer calls or respond to texts until I want to.
fishmaceins
This is the (or at least also my) way.
bobbobbybobbington
i don't even want to be bothered by the notification xD
SmellingMistake
Someone should make the notifications an option that can be turned off or on!
bobbobbybobbington
eh, i'll just leave my phone at home 🤷♀️
deltree5
You can be unreachable and still be able to play music from your phone. This take is whack.
bobbobbybobbington
*whack*
that better :3
you are not unreachable when you have a phone, since you can reach people, and when we reach people, they reach us :P
deltree5
I can play music and have my phone on airplane mode with no issues. Maybe get a better phone?
bobbobbybobbington
you missaprehend, you, the person with the phone, can pick it up, turn off airplane mode, and ring someone, ergo, you are not unreachable
without a phone, there is literally no way to contact someone unless i go back home, like the good old days (except now without streetphones)
RunawaySpoons
Unreachable means other people can't initiate communication with you.
You seem to have confused it with 'cut off' / off grid or isolated, which obviously with a phone that works, one wouldn't be.
SuperPickle17
nonsense, you can start a fire and send a smoke signal.
sylkysmooth
Ah. I see. You're saying you have not the willpower to resist the temptation of calling, texting, or otherwise fiddling with your phone to communicate with others and you need it to be away from you to do so. Because if you did have that willpower there would then be no way of you contacting someone even with said phone as your willpower would stop you from doing so. For you it's distance, for others it's willpower.