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This Is Very interesting
Jun 4, 2022 7:30 PM
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Holinyx05
Reminds me of little lady Mormont from GoT
throwthisaccountinthetrashbin
This child is so annoying that it makes me grateful that I can’t have kids.
BlackBolt84
Witty would be fine. Instead, she's just goddamn annoying
GifThief
I must be easily pleased because I'm loving the show
plumpfairy
I thought this kid was supposed to be 7, 10? No way.
kokrec
Witty is when she does witty things. She didn’t. Adorable yes, cute, talks smart. But not witty and she doesn’t resemble older Leia to me.
wozat
What PhD? There's no doctorates in outer space
CoarseAndSalty
Doctorate in Space Political Science..
AscensoNaciente
There's also no underwear in outer space, according to George.
Scezumin
that's how you can tell when someone has a P H D, if you catch my drift
Kalthramis
My problem is she looks like she's just out of diapers. That "chase" scene in the woods was the most awkward scene I've ever seen
AscensoNaciente
Yeah. I think the child actor does a good job, but I don't for a second see her as a ten year old. More like a five year old.
ForestRed
The actress was 8 when they started filming (IIRC) 10 now
CoarseAndSalty
It's not that she can't run or climb over stuff, it was just garbage choreography. If they shortened the chase and used the environment
CoarseAndSalty
better it could have been fantastic.
HK47Statement
Padme was Queen at 12.... she was supposed to be a child genius that was established back in 1999. Anakin was too.
Micmacmquaide
For me it’s the direction, it’s so boring. Casting etc are great, but it’s just not exciting
MisterDonutVampire
I'm more disappointed at how Vader has been portrayed.... it's like a poorly directed CW show than an actual Star Wars show.
AdrianDunne
PhDs are a thing in Star Wars?
MoschopsUK
I found that once I accepted the whole "magic is real and some of the people can do magic" part, a ten year old girl being mouthy was easy.
WorkSnakes
"unbelievable. Little girl is too smart." Meanwhile laser swords and alien monsters is just fine.
B99Reactions
Fantasy requires some grounded elements for immersion, a girl being mouthy is a normal thing, but "magic is real" is a weak argument
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Lulabel73
My mum said I had attitude at 3 so by the time I was 10 I was well practiced at being like this.
ladyjigglebutt
My seven year old completely burns me on the regular, Young Leia was just a day in my home.
Targe0
Little girls can be mouthy and mean when they want to be.
Rijtjeshuis
So the Star Wars universe has the same academic accreditation system? If she can get a PhD, can Lando get an MBA?
Targe0
He can get one, he knows a guy who knows a guy. So he can get the hook up. /s
YouShouldHearTheThingsIDontSay
What kind of classes did she have to take to get a PHd in a intergalactic system?
ialwaysexpectthespanishinqusition
She's also force sensitive, I mean do you think it's easy to strangle a hutt to death
Unclescam
Generally being forced sensitive, without training, has tended to make a person quite exceptional in every way.
CoarseAndSalty
I was really happy how the handled Leia's force powers in Obi-Wan
BurlRavenscroft
Leia is a doctor?
SoberAndBored
Right. 9 years later, she gets the Death Star plans and legs it, watched by Vader/her father. He gives chase, and when he catches up with
SoberAndBored
her ship, they don't just give up, they fight back, including her shooting at least one storm trooper, and then she claims, to his face, to
SoberAndBored
be a diplomatic mission with no idea what he's talking about.
CaveHunter3000
While I’m not a fan of how the show is being written the casting has been fantastic all around
ForceAwakenWasLame
Ewan is phenom!
wombatula
Yeah he looks just like Obi Wan from the prequels, what are the chances?
muckamuckamuck
I'm struggling with the star casting like Flea and Nanjiani. The rest is great, but the random cameos take me out of immersion
CP3oh
The first few episodes needed more repartee and far fewer ridiculous chase scenes.
nomorehate
What show?? I didn't know there was a new Star Wars show other than Boba Fett
CP3oh
Obi Wan Kenobi on Disney+. It's ... fine.
hodaddelvecchio
I think she's precosously adorable ...just like she is 10 years later
Drosophilamelanobastard
She did not feel like a precocious child. She felt like an adult writer trying super hard, and the kid barely understanding her lines.
MrStealUrMeme
Yeah, I find the actress makes it totally believable that she's little Leah. It seems like even her small mannerisms would be Leah
jhor
she runs like a frog.
DiedAndHauntingImgur
She runs like a little person with a backpack on
jekath
She is. She is a LOT better than the dialogue she delivers. I'm not a fan of that at all
CarlottaVonSprockett
Precociously*
GermanShepherdGuy
Yup but Uncle Ben did not age well in ten years I’ll tell you or aunt May!
stupidfuntime
Those 2 suns mess you up for real
CaptainHightower
Tatooine is a harsh place.
GermanShepherdGuy
No kidding!
ebbderelict
You posted that thing? You're braver than I thought.
tcpolecat7
Duster52
quasarquasarquasar
Most shows get kids wrong, making them too young or too old for their age. As someone with a 10yo daughter, I think this kid is perfect.
grujav
My daughters aren't 10 anymore, but they could be very insightful, witty and savage, and they weren't raised with wealth and access of Leia.
thechervil
Her asking him to clarify if she doesnt speak or can't speak was spot on
OdeToBouncer
The writing is adult Leia but the voice is child Leia, and that's the disconnect many are having. Maturity in a squeaky voice feels wrong.
GeofrontTmP
Sidewaysgts
Thats the thing. Its like theyre writing adult leias lines, and giving them to a 10 year old, who outside that still acts like a 10 year old
LittleDutch
I do not mind that she is witty, I mind that she knows better than Obi Wan on what to do, and that her very presence is lorebreaking.
AscensoNaciente
Knows better while simultaneously almost getting them killed when she freaks out for something stupid.
101Medic
This has been my issue with it. ObiWan is walking around like he has no training at all. Dude fought through the clone wars, but now 1/2
101Medic
he can't remember to keep his hood up, use cover names or use the force?? I feel horrible for Ewan with these scripts. 2/2
muckamuckamuck
He seems disconnected with the force- plausible with the trauma at the end of ep 3 and ongoing war. They should focus more on that tho.
LittleDutch
They have done a very good job at deconstructing Obi Wan as a character, just as they have done for Luke and Han.
Bonesy84
I’m more annoyed at the three stooges kidnapping crew. It sort of breaks cannon with years ago you helped my father, rather than remember
wraith3
They are free range parents, let them live their life!
Bonesy84
When you saved me? I think there was a more convincing way to draw obiwan out of hiding, but I think the writers were told that they have
Bonesy84
To use leia, so far it’s kind of a mess, I hope it gets better
Dixinmass
Ignore the 10k positive messages and hyper fixate on the 100 negative.
SecondSince
This. I'm done debating shit like this with people. I'll listen/read their point, might respond, but that's it. I'm done.
wombatula
I mean that is literally what Disney marketing did, or do you think all those articles about Moses receiving hate mail were not paid for?
AscensoNaciente
It also helps to deflect from any legit criticism as it's now conflated with the racists.
wombatula
Yup this strategy has been gaining in popularity at least since the mid 2010s, and it has the unintended consequence of signal boosting 1/
wombatula
Racist dickwads, so not only does it prey on positive progressive ideals but it also directly helps the opponents of progressive 2/
wombatula
Civil rights. Oh but dw some CEO made an extra couple million so who cares about the social consequences of doing this. 3/3
EaNasirIsABastard
Did Leia ever give a shit about droids? I didn't see any similarity between them,
DarthDrizzt42
And for a universe that explains EVERYTHING, star wars has always been very mum on whether droids are sentient or not
balmut
As I understand it, the reason they memory wipe droids is to avoid them gaining sentience.
BananaParagon
And exactly what L3-37 was all about in Solo
balmut
Never saw it :(
jimmythehat1
She entrusted her last hope to R2.
EaNasirIsABastard
Wanting something to perform a task and caring about it are two different things.
magicalmysterytour
it's just good manners
wlfman
she's definitely rude as fuck to 3PO all the time in the original movies - no idea why they made her so droid-positive
Firemonsterlols
Could just be a kid with her favorite toy. But most star wars good guys have a trusty droid...
PhailRaptor
But everyone treats 3PO like that...
wlfman
Not my point in any way.
PhailRaptor
Yes, that's why I said it. It's a direct counter to your point. Her treatment of 3PO is unique to 3PO, not all droids.
InfocalypseRising
Witty is fine, outrunning a bunch of grown men was a little ridiculous
ToSisPoS
Accept it: girls are in space movies and TV shows now reeeeeeeeee
IAmDrBanner
Yeah, they could really have cut that entire sequence. Just show her running into the dude, then cut away later to her being transporter.
sharikov
Membah when all J.J. Abrams could think of was "what if death star but huger? what if death star but many & small?" Gimme a fuckin break.
wlfman
I'm glad someone else said it - like if she ducked into a tunnel that led 100s of feet away, sure - but she literally just ran around a tree
BurlRavenscroft
Once you realize chase scenes are designed for the hunter to put maximum energy into inefficiency, they’re forever all garbage
NiftyGoblin
I havent seen it tho a kid running from adults can be made more believable if they put in some obstacles only a kid could get through easily
acme64
i thought it was a joke until my dude got shot. I thought they where like security staff playing around
redditmcredditface
lol that was a stretch. the tactic of... running under something , seems a bit fishy
Canonical
Saw that. Laughed
Heavenissize17socks
She's a kid in -her forest-. Of course she knows where to run!
ThatsProbablyInMyBag
Poorly out running them
WhatYouMeanItAintReal
Yeah it was corny af for sure. It added nothing and just came off as silly. I get it’s all fantasy but watching those dudes “chase” her 1/2
WhatYouMeanItAintReal
while moving that slow was pretty comical 2/2
CaptainHightower
It had a bit of "world slowest chase" vibe from Boba Fett series.
litelbrown
You should watch Steel starring Shaq.
p75369
Until the guard was shot I was kind of half-expecting it to be a mock-kidnapping to teach her a lesson. Like they weren't meant to catch her
imoutofnames
Me too!
Foxsayy
I just stopped watching Star Wars Movies after VIII.
PatrickFawley
They were high on spice. That's my headcanon
RemainsspacebarUnknown
the show is decent in my opinion but it has had a lot of scenes where you kinda had to ignore silly stuff like the one youre describing.
enheru
Yeah, that scene was definitely the worst in the show. It really didn't need to be in there since she got captured anyway.
guildencrantzandrosenstern
ArsenalThePhoenix
where is that gif from?
guildencrantzandrosenstern
I just googled make a wish touchdown gif and picked one. I couldn't help but think of it when I saw that scene. Ha!
DamagedDingo
It was hard to watch past that, and then to have it happen in the city as well, was just too much
AscensoNaciente
It's also one thing to be witty, and one thing to be impossibly perceptive one second and dumber than a rock the next.
mirrelle
I dunno have you met kids? Can be scary smart in one respect then thick as a brick about something else. Source: I'm a teacher/parent
rykeral
Kids can be smart for sure but it feels overdone. In my opinion they kinda missed an opportunity to show her developing into that character.
wilagames
It would have been really dumb if she beat a bunch of adults in a podrace or flew a starfighter in a battle at age 9.
SecondSince
Who gives a shit. It wasn't a good scene, sure. But every single SW movie or show has bad moments. Let it go and enjoy the rest.
LincLoud
seamusmcfly
It was ridiculous. You can put yakkity sax over it and you don't even need to speed it up.
ScarletEmerald
https://youtu.be/j6VVa_aNNMk
seamusmcfly
Exactly
ChickenFingerFingers
Holy shit, that is amateur hour.
anyofmany
small girl in the woods outrunning people is in theory ok.. but they just made it look ridiculous...
hydrocarbon82
It's possible in a forest that isn't obviously groomed like that, but theirs was planned by city folk who only walked a few well-worn trails
LurkerOfDarkness
She went off trail.
imoutofnames
All of the scenes where she was being chased were ridiculous.
LurkerOfDarkness
A little girl running around off paths in a forest she knows well going under or over things adults won't easily do....
Someshithead241
After watching it, I think Kenobi said it himself. She doesn't sound like a 10 year old. It's also very jarring to have her doing character
Someshithead241
Deconstruction and "owning" an older kid in a very "everybody claps" way one second and then doing and saying dumb as shit things the next.
Coyotebd
Yes. They did a pretty good job of showing her ducking under stuff but it wasn't very convincing.
coffeegut
yeah that was just there to pad episode length, no excuse
Misterdruglicious
yeah but then again its fucking disney people
shorey66
But they did so well with the mandalorian
Misterdruglicious
Still fucking loved it, but felt like you can feel Disney through it
Misterdruglicious
I mean yes but no, Baby Yoda, like it has childish elements of storytelling like I almost can't imagine it being for a mature audience
memoryshuffle
I mean, we all know that the property is not fully understood by the people who own it, or by the people who are given access to it.
IAmDrBanner
This was less about the property and more about this just being a bad scene.
memoryshuffle
I mean that they shot the scene and thought, "Good enough for Star Wars!" But it feels more like Home Alone 4. They just crapped it out.
Lulabel73
Agreed should have had a scenario where being little got her away faster. Like running over a log bridge that couldn’t support their weight
EGifWrecker
It seemed more like Kevin's home alone escapes.
zoeelane201
Could she have used the force to run better and out maneuver them? Idk the established rules/physics of Star Wars.
IAmDrBanner
She could, even though it would be kinda silly, but that is not what they showed. It was just a really shitty chase.
EaNasirIsABastard
yes, but she didn't, she ran fairly slowly for a ten year old.
SuperMotoSentai
I haven’t watched it yet so I can’t say for certain, but that sounds like Star Wars to me.
dtallen243
She is a Skywalker
DomeGuy
Yeah, what is she, force sensitive?
VaultGirl69
Have you ever tried to chase a child? Spry little goobers.
XuncuTheTiger
It was the damn Space Vespa chase scene all over again.
MerriMod
That weird shuffle-run they were doing to make sure they were slower than the actress was terrible. Worse when Kenobi had to do it too.
methadonegirls
I've tried to catch my kid before. When they don't want to be caught, good luck.
Gaglactus
Spoilers. It seemed to me like they were stalling long enough to be seen. They were leaving a bread crumb trail for kenobi after all.
jackal12345
1) The whole show is a dumpster fire at this point; Kenobi running from Vader was such crap. 100% sure they're gonna try and redeem Reva
jackal12345
2) even though she could dedicate her life to bettering the galaxy and that still wouldn't make up for what a monster she is.
LonerVamp
I felt the running was to keep Vader busy and engaged. He's rusty and he knows it.
jackal12345
They pulled a Last Jedi by cutting him off from the force
Firemonsterlols
For a bit I just assumed Kenobi knew he had robot legs and figured he just needed to outrun slow walking Vader.
IAmDrBanner
Was he supposed to fight? After 10 years of retirement, hiding and eating poorly? Against the guy that is stronger than ever?
jackal12345
1) kathleen kennedy literally called this "the rematch of the century". And stronger than ever?! Anakin was at his prime in episode 3
IAmDrBanner
And no, she didn't call THIS "the rematch of the century". She said they will have it, not that it was this exact fight. This is unlikely /1
IAmDrBanner
to be their last confrontation on this show. I reckon this loss will be the trigger to get Obi-Wan back on t he saddle and connect with /2
jackal12345
2) you know... when he had arms and legs and didn't need a bulky suit to literally live. And could use the force through fire
IAmDrBanner
Darth Vader is objectively stronger than Anakin. By feats or lore alone, to the point where a discussion on it ridiculous. George Lucas /1
himisti
Just think if it as 70's fantasy show and it's fine. Truthful to original SW
SweatyNoah
I had similar thoughts, but realized it was no less ridiculous than most SW action scenes.
JustDontCare
Yup, definitely need to re-train the "Chase scenes" guy. lol
JustAPileOfCats
So is the reaction by fans to that chase.
wabitgirl
The worst part of the show is everyone's utter inability to catch a child who is NOT fast.
Deekermanns
I thought that briefly, but trying to catch a 10 yr old who doesn't want to be caught with specific orders she be unharmed, and she has >
IAmDrBanner
Did they have orders for her to be unharmed? She was literally bait. They didn't actually want to ransom her. A bruise or two would have /1
IAmDrBanner
made literally 0 difference in the situation that they needed her for. /2
Deekermanns
bodyguards that have the OK to kill you? And oh yeah she also has space wizard powers? Not any more impossible than everything important >
Deekermanns
in a galaxy happening in the equivalent of a desert Nevada gas station.
Someshithead241
Remember those knock out guns they used on her in A New Hope?
Dagordae
Do you have any idea what those can do to a child? Might as well just crack her skull.
Someshithead241
You mean the guns that seem to just harmlessly knock you out with a weird pulse? I'd say it's safer to use those.
Dagordae
Based on what, exactly? They're not magic, if they knocking out a grown woman they're going to fuck up a child.
GCRust
Almost like the whole family is blessed with bullshit plot power that only becomes an issue among the female members.
SemiVirtuous
Tell me about all the burns and body parts they've lost being perfect...
GCRust
Never once called 'em perfect. I called it bullshit plot power, which they all have in spades. Almost like it's fiction.
SemiVirtuous
Yes, but when people call the males Gary Stus I laugh. That half gets fucked up, including Ben.
GCRust
I mean, the implication is Jabba assaulted Leia.
Targe0
Kids do have an advantage in forests, smaller bodies means they can get past more obstructions that an Adult can't.
PeteTusk
Ya but that scene is like Keystone Kops comedy. See https://youtu.be/vFvPx0EWPk0
N3kr0z
But magic space wizards is fine?
IAmDrBanner
I hate this stupid fucking argument. That is not how suspension of disbelief works. Fiction still has stabilished rules within the fiction.
superbob201
Haven't seen it yet, it is established that force sensitive people can subconsciously use it as kids to give themselves an advantage.
InfocalypseRising
I mean look, I'm not losing sleep over it, I was just kinda like "well that's goofy"
DeadeicPrints
Well its pretty much a kids show. But the lore supports it.
seamusmcfly
Yes
MeanMisterClean
You're really stupid
Willybum84
Touché
CaldariBob
It's an official religion in Australia! :)
Targe0
It's not recognized officially. And you're no longer allowed to put it on the census.
CaldariBob
That's so disappointing!
raptorlight3000
It was poor editing tbf but yeah people forget this is essentially a children's story, not exactly dostoyevsky
PeteTusk
The Disney versions are lazy and careless. The OT had the movements of fighters matching real war films of dogfights, etc.
IAmDrBanner
My guy, Darth Vader breaks some teenager's neck on screen. First episode had several deaths and dismemberement on screen. I am not sure /1
IAmDrBanner
what children's story you have been telling to kids, but I think someone should stop you. /2
zoeelane201
Following the established laws of physics within an established reality is a big deal in continuity. Harry Potter controlling spells w/o a >
zoeelane201
>wand if preposterous. They'd either have to change the rules or elaborate on a loophole.
Sidewaysgts
Remind me again what happened at the zoo on the first movie. Before he had a wand. With the glass. And the snake.
Sidewaysgts
I mean I agree with you- just not the best example.
Jarjarthejedi
What an example to pick lol. Harry Potter performs wandless magic in Order of the Phoenix as do many other wizards.
Jarjarthejedi
https://harry-potter-compendium.fandom.com/wiki/Wandless_spell
PeakExponent
So, the rule change where they elaborated on the loophole.....is exactly what they were referencing?
Jarjarthejedi
"This thing breaks the established rules of the setting, just like 'example that's literally in the books'" lol.
Someshithead241
See, there's this thing called suspension of disbelief. Just because one thing sounds stupid when reduced down to its core elements, doesnt
Someshithead241
Mean it excuses poor writing or things that make no logical sense within the boundaries of the universe. Saying "but space wizards" isn't
Someshithead241
As good of an excuse as you think it is and shows that you don't understand a basic concept in story telling.
LizardEnterprises
She... didn't tho? Like, she got caught and or fell every single time. At best, she used terrain to avoid them, for a tiny bit.
LizardEnterprises
And like, yeah the actress was not running as fast as was probably intended, but give her a fucking break she's like 8, you didn't work that
LizardEnterprises
hard when you were 8, its a movie about space wizards use some fucking imagination.