Apr 12, 2017 3:24 AM
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mikech2000
Screwed & Biased = I do not agree with
longtimelurkeroooo
So reference what you read. Don't be discouraged, keep going. Today's events are important and you should stay informed.
tinyfootprints
I was living near a US airbase in KSA when I saw a Time magazine article about how there was zero US military presence in Saudi Arabia. Hah.
tooL8
Good luck with that bro/sis. Aint't no such thing. Everyone has an agenda.
RBBaker
Hold the door.
wadatahmydamie
@OP the media seems biased lately because one side is a trash fire that thinks climate change is a hoax
camcam1234
Study international politics and theory, and read Machiavelli's 'The Prince', everything will then make sense.
jammyspoons
Where exactly did you go to "get informed" out of interest?
fil3000
*biased
lmons
Try Reuters or AP, The articles aren't as fun but you get it right from the source
thisistheinternetimheretotellliesandarguewithstrangers
Try to learn about the Kennedy shooting.
SimplyTim88
And here I just wait to learn about it when Trevor Noah or some other comedian makes fun of it on TV.
Starwars2thewrathofhan
@op Phillip de Franco has some good balance and is entertaining.
ThisIsJustToComment
Agreed
amscray
You wanted the luxury of viewing journalism uncritically, which is what many news programmes seek to exploit.
MFDork
This is why people should get their news from a variety of sources. Some good ones that are *closer* to moderate: NPR, BBC, WSJ, Economist.
mathisunbreakable
I followed Fox News to try to get the other side's perspective. Holy shit. "MUSLIM IS A WAY OF LIFE THEY WANT TO KILL US HERE ARE SOME 1/2
STATISTICS ABOUT SHARIA LAW..." - Roxie from Green Bay
charliegrs
Remember, just because you don't like what a news source is telling you doesn't mean its biased
thatjewishgirl
No, but when they refer to "the bigoted misogynist William Jones...", you can pretty much figure it's biased....
cslewisck
Watch one America news
MooseTraxxx
Wish more people were like you
What, edgelords who think most mainstream reporting is inaccurate? Nah. We need more critical thinkers.
WillWorkForHeadpats
Heres all you need to know. We are all petty greedy fucked up little bastards. Many will suffer many will die.... and the wheel turns.
grandfalloon
That only matters to those on the rim.
seldomamusing
News analysis is bias. News like what happened is typically fine. BBC, NPR, Economist, NY Times are all solid for info.
GlitterInTheDarkNearTheTannhauserGate
I think it's the economist that has a stupid full page ad on load, I don't visit on principal
There was a 12 week $12 deal that I got so I have been avoiding that. I pay to waste time on Netflix might as well pay for good news source.
RWebb00000
awful huh? I think Al Jazeera is one of the least biased. But they have iffy coverage.
opkraut
Are you for real? Al Jazeera is awful. They make everything anti-America
there is nothing on there anti america right now. go look.
DontBeSheep
Read EVERYTHING and form your own opinions
PhantomGeek
I like Rush, he seems to get it right more often than not
thisiswhyicanthaveanythingnice
Judging you from only this statement, my assessment is that you get it wrong every time.
Gee whiz, judge much
Yes, always. Isn't every upvote or downvote a judgment?!
I seem to lean towards thinking of it as opinion instead of judgement. To each their own
Craicerjack
Read from many sources and employ your own reasoning.
warumnix
It's worth noting that not all sources are created equal. Some news agencies are notorious for poorly presenting events to further an agenda
or outright ignoring empirical evidence. Variety is good, but not all deserve equal weight. The onus of truth lies with your rationale.
TheAutoBoT1011
^This, although a lot of sources are owned by the same companies.
dankinator420
Don't go through main stream, find smaller online news outlets with different bias
Whats "main stream" and why not read them?
Scaramucci
You've got biased sources, but you've also got sources like Breitbart that are the cancer of news sites.
Following Breitbart because "liberal media is biased" is like drinking piss from the toilet because your glass looks dirty.
WoahEasyThere
Record cspan! It's exhilarating
iguessihaveto
It's surreal is what it is.
RandomActOfConfusion
Try the BBC. It's the best source I've found.
LajesticVantrashellOfLob
that's what she said.
Snarkoleptic
It used to be an independent organisation, but the British govt used the latest scandals to infiltrate it and it's now super biased, sadly
PlZZATHEHUTT
They have been known to censor news happening right outside their HQ. Not to mention still harboring people that knew Saville's raping kids
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
CBC (Canada's public news station) is very good as well. Not as big as the BBC, obviously, but has lots of US coverage and a fair amount /1
of other international coverage. /2
dietderpsy
The BBC don't report things they don't like.
MediocreWhiteGuy
I've found the independent pretty good
MooMooLazyRiver
I try to get my friends and family to go outside American owned sources. Usually doesn't work.
Exactly!
it is liberal leaning.
CalamitousSwagger
Yeah, reality has a liberal bias.
itscoldhere8monthsoftheyear
Compared to what? Fox and Al Jazeera?
Al Jazeera tends to be fairly neutral too.
CaptainShutTheFuckUp
Reality is liberal leaning.
I at least trust them to give me complete, accurate facts. Don't get your news from one place or from one country. Verify claims!
i do. fuck people that cite wikipedia
macca3568
It's perfectly fine for it to have a lean, everything does, but they make sure their information is accurate and correct
SuperTacticalSandwich
Most liberal leaning "news" is not accurate
Well the BBC is. I'm not sure what else to tell you
JaredKidd
Not really l, they're pretty centrist. It's just that American politics is shifted to the right.
The way I see it, they are balanced for the country they're in, which is generally more liberal than the states. But what I like about them,
Is that where the us headlines say "people offended over politician's action" and then why they say they're offended, bbc at least tell me
What the politician did before they explain why it's controversial. I spend way too much time trying to sort through american stories about
Outrage just to find the one story at the bottom of the pile that says what happened to outrage everyone.
Ashpashsmash
The truth tends to be slightly liberal leaning. BBC is mostly reputable from what I've seen.
The truth most certainly is not liberal leaning. The facts are impartial, and we choose to ignore the parts we don't like, or agree with.
HopeHubris
The impartial facts are more in line with liberal views than otherwise, "reality has a liberal bias"
HappyEngineer
I find the website pretty clickbaity and lightweight these days, but at least the facts are usually straight and relatively neutral.
I mainly have the app so it gives me notifications when important events happen.
[deleted]
Seems remarkably opinion-free on brexit to me, that's what i meant. Bias from lack of coverage is a whole other issue that's very subjective
asmallcat
Stop buying into the idea that you can't trust long-standing, respected journalism institutions.
SainguinPixels
Because if they say it's true, it's true. Don't question them or be critical of the news. That's bad think. Don't do that.
Talligan
Exactly. If you're reading a respected journal and you think its disgustingly biased, then you're the problem - not them.
I mean.. it's not like... gasp.. a journal could get a shitty, biased writer? GASP
Seriously, think before you spew bullshit like this online for everyone to see. You look ignorant as fuck and honestly quite stupid.
So you're saying that just because a journal has been around a long time, they should be believed without question? No criticism? Nothing?
Missed the forest for the trees. Certain journalists (or columnists, usually) and individual pieces can always be the exception.
But if, for ex., you think everything in CBC news is disgustingly liberal and inaccurate, then you're likely in the wrong.
Some stuff? Sure, certainly.
WorldsSmallestMegaDick
A head editor can greatly steer a journals bias
sonnydojo
Just stick to Associated Press and Reuters. Where the news gets its news, before it fucks it up.
Segesta
Like Reuters' laughable photoshops of Gaza bombings a few years back? AP and Reuters are among the worst.
It was one freelance photog. employed by Reuters, & they instantly owned up to it & fired him. It happens everywhere, & they handled it well
That's exactly what I've started to do, the stories can be kind of boring but it is honest reporting
tiikki
Not enough, try to find the actual source and check from there. Usually there is some sort of press release or something similar.
darthOnion
Even these news sources are not trusted by some crazy old dudes like my Dad... Breitbart though? Now there's real news!
flaccidhope
CoBr2
The biggest problem with Breitbart is people not understanding that half of it is literally just blogs presented next to real news.
KristanDL
Oh please, Reuters are biased too.
Beelsebooob
If you're seeing reuters as biased, it's most likely because you don't like what the facts of the situation are.
Reuters provides only one-sided information. Hence biased.
Scientificevidence
I you think Reuters has no bias, it's most likely because you don't understand news isn't only about facts (selection, relevance, opinions).
WhistlingButt
Since some news sources started citing blogs, things got wierd...
It's fine to cite blogs about some things... like there are stories that HAPPEN on blogs or social media, such as gamergate. Or for /1
celebrity "news" or whatever. Or if the blogger is an independent journalist or something, the way Glenn Greenwald started. But you have /2
to know which bloggers are reputable, or which ones the story started on, or the context, etc. Citing random blogs because they support /3
the point you're trying to make is fucked up. /4
mikech2000
Screwed & Biased = I do not agree with
longtimelurkeroooo
So reference what you read. Don't be discouraged, keep going. Today's events are important and you should stay informed.
tinyfootprints
I was living near a US airbase in KSA when I saw a Time magazine article about how there was zero US military presence in Saudi Arabia. Hah.
tooL8
Good luck with that bro/sis. Aint't no such thing. Everyone has an agenda.
RBBaker
Hold the door.
wadatahmydamie
@OP the media seems biased lately because one side is a trash fire that thinks climate change is a hoax
camcam1234
Study international politics and theory, and read Machiavelli's 'The Prince', everything will then make sense.
jammyspoons
Where exactly did you go to "get informed" out of interest?
fil3000
*biased
lmons
Try Reuters or AP, The articles aren't as fun but you get it right from the source
thisistheinternetimheretotellliesandarguewithstrangers
Try to learn about the Kennedy shooting.
SimplyTim88
And here I just wait to learn about it when Trevor Noah or some other comedian makes fun of it on TV.
Starwars2thewrathofhan
@op Phillip de Franco has some good balance and is entertaining.
ThisIsJustToComment
Agreed
amscray
You wanted the luxury of viewing journalism uncritically, which is what many news programmes seek to exploit.
MFDork
This is why people should get their news from a variety of sources. Some good ones that are *closer* to moderate: NPR, BBC, WSJ, Economist.
mathisunbreakable
I followed Fox News to try to get the other side's perspective. Holy shit. "MUSLIM IS A WAY OF LIFE THEY WANT TO KILL US HERE ARE SOME 1/2
mathisunbreakable
STATISTICS ABOUT SHARIA LAW..." - Roxie from Green Bay
charliegrs
Remember, just because you don't like what a news source is telling you doesn't mean its biased
thatjewishgirl
No, but when they refer to "the bigoted misogynist William Jones...", you can pretty much figure it's biased....
cslewisck
Watch one America news
MooseTraxxx
Wish more people were like you
wadatahmydamie
What, edgelords who think most mainstream reporting is inaccurate? Nah. We need more critical thinkers.
WillWorkForHeadpats
Heres all you need to know. We are all petty greedy fucked up little bastards. Many will suffer many will die.... and the wheel turns.
grandfalloon
That only matters to those on the rim.
seldomamusing
News analysis is bias. News like what happened is typically fine. BBC, NPR, Economist, NY Times are all solid for info.
GlitterInTheDarkNearTheTannhauserGate
I think it's the economist that has a stupid full page ad on load, I don't visit on principal
seldomamusing
There was a 12 week $12 deal that I got so I have been avoiding that. I pay to waste time on Netflix might as well pay for good news source.
RWebb00000
awful huh? I think Al Jazeera is one of the least biased. But they have iffy coverage.
opkraut
Are you for real? Al Jazeera is awful. They make everything anti-America
RWebb00000
there is nothing on there anti america right now. go look.
DontBeSheep
Read EVERYTHING and form your own opinions
PhantomGeek
I like Rush, he seems to get it right more often than not
thisiswhyicanthaveanythingnice
Judging you from only this statement, my assessment is that you get it wrong every time.
PhantomGeek
Gee whiz, judge much
thisiswhyicanthaveanythingnice
Yes, always. Isn't every upvote or downvote a judgment?!
PhantomGeek
I seem to lean towards thinking of it as opinion instead of judgement. To each their own
Craicerjack
Read from many sources and employ your own reasoning.
warumnix
It's worth noting that not all sources are created equal. Some news agencies are notorious for poorly presenting events to further an agenda
warumnix
or outright ignoring empirical evidence. Variety is good, but not all deserve equal weight. The onus of truth lies with your rationale.
TheAutoBoT1011
^This, although a lot of sources are owned by the same companies.
dankinator420
Don't go through main stream, find smaller online news outlets with different bias
Craicerjack
Whats "main stream" and why not read them?
Scaramucci
You've got biased sources, but you've also got sources like Breitbart that are the cancer of news sites.
Scaramucci
Following Breitbart because "liberal media is biased" is like drinking piss from the toilet because your glass looks dirty.
WoahEasyThere
Record cspan! It's exhilarating
iguessihaveto
It's surreal is what it is.
RandomActOfConfusion
Try the BBC. It's the best source I've found.
LajesticVantrashellOfLob
that's what she said.
Snarkoleptic
It used to be an independent organisation, but the British govt used the latest scandals to infiltrate it and it's now super biased, sadly
PlZZATHEHUTT
They have been known to censor news happening right outside their HQ. Not to mention still harboring people that knew Saville's raping kids
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
CBC (Canada's public news station) is very good as well. Not as big as the BBC, obviously, but has lots of US coverage and a fair amount /1
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
of other international coverage. /2
dietderpsy
The BBC don't report things they don't like.
MediocreWhiteGuy
I've found the independent pretty good
MooMooLazyRiver
I try to get my friends and family to go outside American owned sources. Usually doesn't work.
RandomActOfConfusion
Exactly!
RWebb00000
it is liberal leaning.
CalamitousSwagger
Yeah, reality has a liberal bias.
itscoldhere8monthsoftheyear
Compared to what? Fox and Al Jazeera?
wadatahmydamie
Al Jazeera tends to be fairly neutral too.
CaptainShutTheFuckUp
Reality is liberal leaning.
RandomActOfConfusion
I at least trust them to give me complete, accurate facts. Don't get your news from one place or from one country. Verify claims!
RWebb00000
i do. fuck people that cite wikipedia
macca3568
It's perfectly fine for it to have a lean, everything does, but they make sure their information is accurate and correct
SuperTacticalSandwich
Most liberal leaning "news" is not accurate
macca3568
Well the BBC is. I'm not sure what else to tell you
JaredKidd
Not really l, they're pretty centrist. It's just that American politics is shifted to the right.
iguessihaveto
The way I see it, they are balanced for the country they're in, which is generally more liberal than the states. But what I like about them,
iguessihaveto
Is that where the us headlines say "people offended over politician's action" and then why they say they're offended, bbc at least tell me
iguessihaveto
What the politician did before they explain why it's controversial. I spend way too much time trying to sort through american stories about
iguessihaveto
Outrage just to find the one story at the bottom of the pile that says what happened to outrage everyone.
Ashpashsmash
The truth tends to be slightly liberal leaning. BBC is mostly reputable from what I've seen.
itscoldhere8monthsoftheyear
The truth most certainly is not liberal leaning. The facts are impartial, and we choose to ignore the parts we don't like, or agree with.
HopeHubris
The impartial facts are more in line with liberal views than otherwise, "reality has a liberal bias"
HappyEngineer
I find the website pretty clickbaity and lightweight these days, but at least the facts are usually straight and relatively neutral.
JaredKidd
I mainly have the app so it gives me notifications when important events happen.
[deleted]
[deleted]
HappyEngineer
Seems remarkably opinion-free on brexit to me, that's what i meant. Bias from lack of coverage is a whole other issue that's very subjective
asmallcat
Stop buying into the idea that you can't trust long-standing, respected journalism institutions.
SainguinPixels
Because if they say it's true, it's true. Don't question them or be critical of the news. That's bad think. Don't do that.
Talligan
Exactly. If you're reading a respected journal and you think its disgustingly biased, then you're the problem - not them.
SainguinPixels
I mean.. it's not like... gasp.. a journal could get a shitty, biased writer? GASP
SainguinPixels
Seriously, think before you spew bullshit like this online for everyone to see. You look ignorant as fuck and honestly quite stupid.
SainguinPixels
So you're saying that just because a journal has been around a long time, they should be believed without question? No criticism? Nothing?
Talligan
Missed the forest for the trees. Certain journalists (or columnists, usually) and individual pieces can always be the exception.
Talligan
But if, for ex., you think everything in CBC news is disgustingly liberal and inaccurate, then you're likely in the wrong.
Talligan
Some stuff? Sure, certainly.
WorldsSmallestMegaDick
A head editor can greatly steer a journals bias
sonnydojo
Just stick to Associated Press and Reuters. Where the news gets its news, before it fucks it up.
Segesta
Like Reuters' laughable photoshops of Gaza bombings a few years back? AP and Reuters are among the worst.
sonnydojo
It was one freelance photog. employed by Reuters, & they instantly owned up to it & fired him. It happens everywhere, & they handled it well
lmons
That's exactly what I've started to do, the stories can be kind of boring but it is honest reporting
tiikki
Not enough, try to find the actual source and check from there. Usually there is some sort of press release or something similar.
darthOnion
Even these news sources are not trusted by some crazy old dudes like my Dad... Breitbart though? Now there's real news!
flaccidhope
CoBr2
The biggest problem with Breitbart is people not understanding that half of it is literally just blogs presented next to real news.
KristanDL
Oh please, Reuters are biased too.
Beelsebooob
If you're seeing reuters as biased, it's most likely because you don't like what the facts of the situation are.
KristanDL
Reuters provides only one-sided information. Hence biased.
Scientificevidence
I you think Reuters has no bias, it's most likely because you don't understand news isn't only about facts (selection, relevance, opinions).
WhistlingButt
Since some news sources started citing blogs, things got wierd...
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
It's fine to cite blogs about some things... like there are stories that HAPPEN on blogs or social media, such as gamergate. Or for /1
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
celebrity "news" or whatever. Or if the blogger is an independent journalist or something, the way Glenn Greenwald started. But you have /2
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
to know which bloggers are reputable, or which ones the story started on, or the context, etc. Citing random blogs because they support /3
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
the point you're trying to make is fucked up. /4