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Lightsaber Buying Guide
Below you'll find a sample of the many "Saber Smiths" available to purchase from. These are among the most popular out there and ALL of them are duel worthy, designed for full force combat. These 3 saber smiths are the current main contenders for the custom market.
There are MANY more out there. However most of them either specialize in complete custom work, or offer similar "off the shelf" sabers in a higher price bracket than these listed.
If you want to join up the community and find out more about lightsabers and the other companies you can check out
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1553748611608080/
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All of these companies all share a few basic attributes and terms:
The blades are 1 inch outer diameter. Meaning you can use a blade from one brand on another brands hilt with zero problems. Some people prefer blades from one place and hilts from another.
The light comes from the HILT not the blade. This is one reason these are duel capable. If the LEDs were in the blade, which are known as string blades (a string of LEDs in the blade), its possible to pop them. Like the Black Series and Force FX. But you lose the "scolling" effect of the saber turning on and off by "extending" and "retracting". If you're familiar with the Force FX or black series, you know what I mean. Instead the light kind of fades in and out. Providing a similar, but different effect.
Some companies like Hamptons Hand Crafted Lightsabers have created duel capable string blades though. But those are a minority.
They all have the option of adding new or different "saber fonts" or sound effects. Some companies like SaberForge let you choose between 3 options for them to load onto your saber that can't be changed afterwards. Others like Vaders Vault let you load 6 different fonts to switch between on the fly after you download them from Saberfonts.com. Ultrasabers offers you a bunch for free to switch between as you please.
They can have Flash on Clash and Auxiliary effects added. Aside from brightness and fighting durability, the thing that separates them from the official licensed stuff like the Black Series or Force FX are these features.
Flash on Clash (FOC) means the blade will literally flash when you hit something with it.
Auxiliary effects include things like "Blaster Deflection", Lock up (Think of two lightsabers pushing against each other), motion activated "force powers" and so much more. It all depends on the sound board the smith uses. Much like video games, with preferred brands and arguments over those, the same drama exists for the different sound board brands.
RGB is also an option on almost every saber. RGB means you can change your sabers color on the fly using the RGB color scale. The dept and detail varies from company to company. For some, its even possible to assign a different sound font to each color and the saber will remember this.
Ultrasabers http://www.ultrasabers.com/
Ultrasabers is considered the gateway drug into the saber community. They offer a variety of hilts, from basic original designs to more detailed character based (Obi-Wan from Episode 1 for example) hilts. The accuracy of the character hilts vary. Some are very accurate while others work at a passing glance. They offer empty (no electronics), Stunt Sabers (Sabers without sound, just lights) and full featured sabers with sound. Their customer service can be spotty sometimes. You'll find conflicting stories where one group of people praise their service while others share their frustration. Ultrasabers has the fastest turn around time. Roughly two weeks from when you order your saber.
Ultrasabers
Ultrasabers is the cheapest on the market. Which is why some people tend to stick with them rather than branching out after buying from them. They allow you to fine tune every detail on your hilt, down to the button used to turn it on, in order for you to build one into your budget. However it sometimes comes off as being nickel and dimed for every little thing, especially when some things they charge you for are standard with other companies. And adding the features found in other companies, such as FOC and some Aux Effects, can quickly raise the price up to that OF the other companies sabers.
Ultrasabers
If you're trying to keep your budget down and not going with the Emerald Driver from them, at least get the Tri-Cree LED upgrade. Shown as a "Tri" color from the color menu. Its only $10 and honestly, without it or the ED, the brightness will leave you wanting. Tri-Cree LEDs are incredibly bright. The ED, aside from boosting the brightness of your saber, allows you to customize your saber and the color of your blade by plugging it into the computer and making changes in real time.
SaberForge http://www.saberforge.com/
SaberForge has been gaining massive popularity and seeing fast growth in the last few years. They mostly specialize in character based hilts and really have that market cornered in terms of affordable hilts based on movie props and comic designs. They have a basic line designed to compete with US cheapest offerings. But their real meat is in the elite line. Where hilts cost a little more but you're getting more detail on the hilt itself. They're basically Ultrasabers most direct competitor. They also offer, empty, stunt and complete hilts. SaberForge has one of the longer turn around times. Roughly 8 weeks from when you place your order. Their most expensive tier, the Hero Class, allows for a wide range of AUX effects and FOC.
SaberForge
I can't talk about SF without mentioning the controversy that surrounds them, as in all of it. While they have a huge cult following much like UltraSabers, ready to defend them at a moments notice, they're generally shunned from the larger Saber community. With a long list of grievances and an owner known for throwing temper tantrums, some people would call them an outright scam. Customer Service can again be spotty depending on who you talk to.
SaberForge
Despite all this, they're a popular option. Get their 12W+ option for maximum brightness. They only deal in heavy grade blades which are great for dueling, but won't let you take full advantage of the brightness of the 12w+ because of the blades extremely thick inner walls. Their heavy grade blade is known for being tough and taking quite a beating, but when it breaks it BREAKS. A common break on a normal saber blade is to have the tip pop off. Simply glue it back in. But the design of the V4 blade from SF means that when the tip pops off, it'll break the whole blade.
SaberForge https://www.etsy.com/shop/Saberforge?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=s
In general SaberForge hilts are slightly smaller than US, which makes them feel less clunky and more sword like. Check their Etsy page for exclusive test runs of saber designs, as well as a faster turn around time from your purchase date. The trade off is less options for customizing your saber. As these sabers are partially built, waiting to be finished based on a few less choices.
Vaders Vault http://vadersvault.com/
Vaders Vault started off as pure custom shop that only dealt in expensive one off's or highly detailed limited runs. They quickly earned a reputation as being one of the best in the biz. They recently switched gears into more off the shelf style models similar to US and SF. Their basic sabers, The Combat Class, are complete sabers that come fully featured with sound (as do ALL of their sabers) and are built from the ground up for dueling first and foremost. They don't have the hilt variety of the other guys yet, but they're newer in this aspect and still building their lineup. They have a longer lead time of around 12 weeks from your purchase date.
Vaders Vault
Priced competitively with over half of their combat class sabers marked at $350 and under. That puts them right in line with SaberForges Elite sabers ( Champion Class $355 with sound). They can often be cheaper depending on the hilt. Their Suncrusher LED is easily the brightest on the market and worth the $40 upgrade as it also includes FOC and other Aux effects on top of LED upgrade. Compared to SF which charges $30 for the 12w upgrade and nothing else.
Vaders VaultĀ uses a Shock Absorbant Chassis.
It keeps all the wiring and electronics nice and neat and most importantly safe while you're banging these things around at full force. They were one of the first in the industry to include this standard. Something few other brands, specifically the major well known ones, offer. VV only offers the complete saber experience. Lights and Sound included.
Priced competitively, you'll find most of their sabers cost right in line (often cheaper) with similar offerings from the likes of SaberForges Elite sabers with sound and Ultrasabers with Premium Obsidian sound. But you'll still get features unique to VV such as the chassis, high end sound card, and size of their hilts.
Vaders Vault
Another defining feature is the size. While other sabers can sometimes feel like you're holding a flash light, VV keeps its dimensions to that of an actual sword hilt. So that picking one up feels like a weapon rather than a toy. This is made possible by the tiny, but advanced, sound card they use. Of the three main saber smiths, VV is the only one where you'll find nothing but glowing reviews for both their company/customer service and the products they make.
Vaders Vault offers Mid and Heavy Grade blades, but they recommend sticking to mid, as do I. Go with the shine through tip when customizing your blade, over the mirrored option.
**Bonus** The Custom Saber Shop http://www.thecustomsabershop.com/default.aspx
One other option is to literally build your own. While there are many ways to do so from scratch, The Custom Saber Shop offers all the parts and even tutorials your heart desires. Utilizing a system known as MHS (Modular Hilt System), you can design and build your saber from prefab parts all designed to fit together in a simple manner.
The Custom Saber Shop
You can go from some of the parts pictured above to something like this. A complete saber made out of MHS parts. It can be as simple or complicated as you make it. But if its your first time working with electronics, start simple and practice. You don't want to jump straight to an advanced build and ruin a $200 sound board because you shorted it out.
At the end of the day, this short list is only scratching the surface of the many wonderful companies out there for your sabering needs.
Afrocooki
Holy jesus
LogarthSheppy
Anything is a lightsaber if you are strong enough in the force.
mighty123
Guys I'm sorry to say, ALL of these lightsabers look like fakes.
bermudakid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPbvxRft02g|
AirshipEngineer
Saberforge has been known for bad business practices. I would thoroughly not recommend giving them your money
napalmpatty
What about Hampton's Handcrafted Lightsabers?
SlamSlayer1
I left out Hamptons because they're just a touch above this price range from what I remember of them. As I stated, this is a basic list
DingenForester
Thanks op, now i found something else to spend my hard-earned money on. What am i saying? I sit on Imgur all day at work
TheAmazingBlahaj
A cup of Earl Grey tea is a lot cheaper.
Tritan2
I'd like a *real* lightsaber. How many decades are we off from that?
LordGale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-xHso660tA
Tritan2
Holy shit that's cool. At the end of the video it's still spitting out fuel but not igniting immediately. I'd buy one of those.
TheBrickumentarian
http://4thletter.net/wp-content/uploads//swbatteries.gif NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
mordaedil
Holy fuck
LordGale
ACTUALLY THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH SOUND SABERS. THAT POWER CONSUMPTION, JFC.
IveBeenBannedBefore
Disney's marketing group sure did a hell of a number on you young impressionable consumers.
millenniumf
Either that or you're a hatewanking fanboy who is unaware of the history of custom sabers in the fan community...
SlamSlayer1
The hobby has been around since the early 2000s. Before Lucas ever put out anything official of similar quality
BojanglesTheFlyingCar
Kenner had one way back in the 80s. All plastic and was just a tuned plastic pipe that made sounds as you moved it.
0hDeer
My boyfriend paid $100+ for a saber hilt through SaberForge's kickstarter back in July. He's STILL waiting for it.
SlamSlayer1
Yeah like I said, SF is iffy
islick
He definitely needs to contact them. They will probably give a discount with free stuff for the horrible wait
0hDeer
They've been contacted by other pledges multiple times but always with the response of "we're working on it"
DarthSeraphim
Yea lost cause there. At this point I'll be happy to just get my saber. This is gonna be a one and done with saberforge. Damn shame.
islick
Same here unfortunately. I've been waiting over a few months extra for mine and it's just not worth the wait and hassle for the price.
z0de
Imgur: pages and pages on what light saber to buy, nothing on washing machines.
QuinnMccarthy
Well you're not wrong
Briza1268777
If you want something more custom and maybe something you can change out parts on, check out thesustomsabershhop.
TheDudeanator
I will look into that
TheDudeanator
I will look into that
matrix86
Hampton's Handcrafter Lightsabers is about to do the same type of thing, only the electronics will come pre-assembled. That's what sold me!
Briza1268777
I'm going to have a few accent LEDs in mine so custom electronics are more the route I need to go. They offer modular wiring too.
TheDudeanator
I will look into that
SororityTransvestites
I will look into that
SororityTransvestites
I will look into that
beng98
I recommend talking to Hamptons custom led sabers. They give you full creative control and you can get exactly what you want. (1/?)
beng98
They are a good amount more expensive than other places but I am using it to create my design and not have to settle. Does engraving (2/?)
beng98
And even leather work. The one I'm making is close to 800 dollars but it's done in payments of 25% of a down payment and then over(2/?)
beng98
Sorry meant 3/? For the previous one. Over a while the payments can float in and you get updates as its being made. Treat yo self. (4/4)
matrix86
I'm anxiously awaiting his OST line. I love that the electronics will come already made and put together. It's what keeps me from CSS.
Sleven
Just ordered one from Vaders Vault about a week ago. The wait is going to kill me.
merediththecat
Hey, I'm thinking about buying from VV when the flex comes back in stock
ToddTheQuad
I also ordered a lightsaber, but from ultrasabers. I'm so anxious for it to get here
merediththecat
Hey, I'm thinking about buying from VV when the flex comes back in stock. Does that come with the blade or not?
Sleven
Yeah. They all come with blades.
rongwhole
I'm glad you did this review, @OP. It's been hell waiting on Consumer Reports' Annual Lightsaber Roundup.
Ekibwurm
isnt a jedi supposed to build his own lightsaber?
StickNik
http://24.media.tumblr.com/450f1a9ae8c060d0b5f22b8b7aed835f/tumblr_mg86zmXxpT1r98lguo2_250.gif
violentLuciano
Doesn't mean we can't ask for help.
Ekibwurm
true. they would be teachers who would explain how they work and help to build it..but in the end its for the padawan to build his own saber
mordaedil
And you can with the bottom options.
millenniumf
Whose to say there weren't Jedi who were better off staying away from power tools and were given premade chassis?
Ekibwurm
since you need to use the force to create the lightsaber.... i think creating your own was meant as a test to show you had enough mastery to
Ekibwurm
go up the ranks from padawan to jedi but i'm not an expert in the SW universe, so you might want to double check
keepyourbuttholetighttonight
if you have the coin this guy builds the best facebook.com/notes/hamptons-hand-crafted-led-sabers/price-listspurchase-policy/135040356679067
MyProfileHasKittens
Commenting because I can't favorite comments @Sarah
Bumcandy
He's starting a Kickstarter next week so you can buy parts to build your own.
thisiswhyblackpeoplehavetrustissues
Saw this and immediately went to customize one... For $421.99... Rent isn't THAT important, right?
SajinZero
The 3rd picture is actually one I took of my collection.....neat!
MrWizard024
That's a nice collection you have there. Half of those are at the top on my want list from ultrasabers.
SlamSlayer1
Yeah I found it searching for pics to help build the list. Awesome saber!
SajinZero
Sorry for that triple post. Damn mobile version. Yeah I sold off a few but I've got a few left.
SlamSlayer1
Its not just you, Imgur was acting up. Theres a TON of triple posts. Seems fixed now.
StrazzaDazza
since you have the obi wan saber. I'm looking for a replica of it, would you recommend it from ultrasabers?
SajinZero
It's a bit bulky but not bad overall.
StrazzaDazza
Is it worth buying?
thisisanawesomeusername
I'd like a Mace Windu replica but I don't know how close they're allowed to do to it considering Samuel L. Jackson owns the character
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thisisanawesomeusername
Awesome!
islick
Say what?
SlamSlayer1
You can get replicas no problem. Vaders Vault is actually getting ready to release that very saber. Just hang tight.
merediththecat
Who offers the best anakin/Luke/ray replica?
SlamSlayer1
http://store.vadersvault.com/vv-flex-tfa/
SlamSlayer1
Just keep an eye out for them to come back in stock in the next month or so http://store.vadersvault.com/vv-flex-esb/
SlamSlayer1
They should have them back in stock soon. http://store.vadersvault.com/vv-flex-anh/
SlamSlayer1
VV again lol. They just released that one and it sold it out under 24 hours. All three versions.
merediththecat
I was saving money, but its so cool
merediththecat
When I place an order from VV, What accessories should I buy as well?
SlamSlayer1
Just get a Suncrusher Color (The $40 colors, thats a big upgrade thats more than worth it). Your blade length (I'm 5'6 and prefer 32 to 34)
SlamSlayer1
And remember, the wait is a few months.
SlamSlayer1
Shine through tip for the blade, pointed or round is preference. Get a D-ring or Covertech wheel to clip it to your belt if you want
KyloRenApproves
thatjohndenverwasfullofsht
I hope to see this username used to its utmost potential +1
KyloRenApproves
Paladinsabre
Millennial10
Sauce?
MyNameisHousey
SNL
TheGrinchStoleYourShit
meh, when they actually work you let me know
LoadedPrecompute908
These are super fun though. I bought my brother in law one, then it was so cool I had to buy myself one. Lightsaber duels for days!
AdmiralButtStuff
Im with you. Until I can accidentally set my house on fire and cut my arm off I'm not interested. It's just a light bulb in a pretty case.
Br0kenBot
Genesis Custom Sabers! Rob does amazing work, pricey but amazing.
justinbaileyprime
I was wondering if that would show up! His work is incredible. LOVE the dragon pearl and old western themed ones.
SlamSlayer1
I considered putting him on here but his prices are just above this bracket. I'd consider him slightly more advanced stuff.
superjario18
I ordered a saberforge adaptive saber, they are FINALLY shipping this month. I'll put up a review of it on imgur if people want?
SlamSlayer1
Definitely!
superjario18
cool, it'll be mid next month probably. gonna set a calendar reminder haha.
superjario18
IT WAS ATTEMPTED TO BE DELIVERED TODAY D: BUT I WASNT THERE!! picking it up monday, review to follow.
SlamSlayer1
Keep us updated!
superjario18
I received it yesterday, have to sort out a few things, then i'll have a review up! Should be this weekend i'm hoping.
superjario18
http://imgur.com/O">GB2e">http://imgur.com/OVhGB2e and http://imgur.com/BbmbCO1
superjario18
So the weight of the saber is quite nice, light aluminum CNC without anything in it. Add the battery pack in the handle 1/?
rectalpossum
where can I get something cheap for cosplay that isn't as ugly as the disney licensed one?
SlamSlayer1
Ultrasabers or the cheap SaberForge line
rectalpossum
Do either of those do anything less than 150? I checked Saberforge and for a poor minor, they're a bit pricy.
MaestroLagunero
the cheapest ones are about $50 that come with no sound. with sound, the cheapest would be $160
rectalpossum
that is perfect, thank you good sir! mind sending me a link if you've got one handy?
MaestroLagunero
https://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/70.htm. this is the list for the sabers w/o sound.
matrix86
Saberforge's Apprentice line are within your budget as well. $50 for just a hilt, $100 starting point for hilt, blade, and light.
Ardencroft
I guess I'm just the wrong type of nerd, because I honestly geeked out over the Glamdring hilt more than any of the lightsabers.
DaniNyaaa
Saammee
SlamSlayer1
If that's the case, you'll love this from the 3rr Smith, Vaders Vault
Smayds
Were you bummed that they didn't make Glamdring glow like Sting in the LOTR films too?
WhoPaidForThisFloor
There are dozens of us!
SlamSlayer1
http://vadersvault.com/2013/02/arod-megil/
BRM15EOL
if that isnt the tightest shit, then you can get out of my face
Abominor
"engagement lightsaber" are you for fuckin real?
LatchHookRug
Anyone propose to me with that, I'd marry them on the spot.
Abominor
I thought about this after I posted, I think it would actually be more potentially meaningful than an engagement band tbh.
djmoonbass
As an employee of saberforge who freuquently uses imgur. While most of the controversy is unfortunately true one thing i can say honestly
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djmoonbass
Hey hey j whats up.
Capeetain
I bought from saberforge. I got the cheapest thing possible just to say that I had one. They gave me a 12 week window 1/2
BSIrishman
I've played around on the new custom shop for SF but it doesn't say how much my completed saber would be. Do I have to submit it first?
Skippeh
My saber from you guys was posted the other day! Can't wait.
djmoonbass
Is that customer service has increased 10 fold. We have an entire department dedicated to it and the csr manager is my room mate.
havenwood
I've been thinking about ordering the Fury saber. Happy to hear that. Makes my decision a little bit easier.
PaulTheFirewoodSalesman
Honest question here; with you saying the controversy is true is there a chance of repercussions? 'Phil' doesn't sound like the type of 1/2
PaulTheFirewoodSalesman
guy who would like one of his employees admitting that the stuff is true. No disrespect intended.
djmoonbass
1) Im honest and direct. Im not going to lie and say stuff didnt happen when it clearly did. The truth is it doesnt happen anymore.
djmoonbass
2) weve grown and with growth of a company we all have to maintain proffesionalism and try and keep good customer service and PR
DuckeyBones
How much damage control do you have to do when Phil goes on another tangent?
djmoonbass
1) Luckily im in another shop at a different location doing customs so im not usually in the line of fire. But recently hasnt been alot
djmoonbass
2) out in the public like before its all internal. Theres bs in every job. One of my best friends was let go so that was hard. :(
DuckeyBones
Sorry if it sounded like I was shitty there, was curious. On a more positive note: You guys doing anymore Bane curved hilts anymore?
perhapsthisusernameisnottakenyet
Knytiri FTW! Such an awesome dude! Works hard and is entirely dedicated to its job, the community loves him just as much as the whole SF!
friends4lifexxx
My boyfriend ordered a $300 lightsaber in September and just got a refund last month because it was apparently stolen along with several 1/?
djmoonbass
Yeah we had some wierd stuff go down. But CSR department is on it. They have some good deals set up for those whos orders were cancelled.
SuperZim
I'm not going to take them up on a good deal if they don't give me a refund. Looking like the check is going to get "lost" like the sabers.
Silverforte
'We're on it' famous repeat line by scam companies that don't actually help.
friends4lifexxx
other orders. We had to email them to find out something was wrong. I highly doubt they'll be getting any more business from us.
sadman13
Same here, ordered in Oct, 'lost/stolen' in Dec. Refund in Jan. I took them up on the discount if i reordered and just got mine 3 days ago
SuperZim
Same thing happened here. Waiting for a refund check. Probably wont come. Gonna have to dispute it to get my money back.
islick
Would that happen to be Joshua S.? :p I just worked out a deal for a saber that was ordered back in Sep that never was shipped or stolen.
islick
I have to say it wasn't the best customer service but at least I was able work something out with them. But my biggest complaint is it 2/3
islick
3/3 takes an entire day if not more for an email to be answered. It took me up to 2 weeks of emailing back and forth to work something out.
djmoonbass
The reason it takes as long as it does is the entire team answers about 1-2k emails a day. Once youve responded it goes to the top of
Dramacian
Do they have a vibrating and sound option, for science purposes of course.
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Dramacian
I... you did not take my question seriously ? You did ? Ok then.
Afreeman81
Sounds an awful lot like you plan on using it to tickle someone to death.
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DuckMastaQuack
No it won't I'm lack toast in toddler ant
Smayds
I'm certain you meant "cauterise" - but you know lightsabers aren't really real, right?
Dramacian
Oh yes, just turning one on would burn the area for 5-10 meters round. Star wars physics.
SlamSlayer1
LOL! They actually all have sound options and some people do put vibration motors in their builds. Uh for science. I hope.
ironmansdildo
Found their website! Look at them! http://fightsaber.com/lightsabers/sabermach/
DeannaZone
*searching intensifies*
MrDrImgurMD
*interest intensifies*
EdgarAllenshrimpPoeboy
Just one question, can you hit stuff with them without them breaking
SlamSlayer1
Of course. You'd probably break whatever you're hitting first lol
ironmansdildo
There is a new sabersmith in Singapore. They are named Sabermach. Balanced saber, as bright as SF 12W, durable, very sleek design. Check em!
ozzycats
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ironmansdildo
http://fightsaber.com/lightsabers/sabermach/
aviculae
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ironmansdildo
http://fightsaber.com/lightsabers/sabermach/